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dmnum
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Brazil6910 Posts
June 02 2012 04:47 GMT
#381
ok so maybe 4-1
X10A
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada9837 Posts
June 02 2012 04:47 GMT
#382
HOON <3
But its PvP
SADLYFE
Hoon vs Kal
CJ/T8 Fighting//#1 STX and Bisu anti <3//YES X10A is based off the Freedom Gundam
lyAsakura
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1414 Posts
June 02 2012 04:48 GMT
#383
Kal still smug as heck.
WeMade FOX would be a deadly SC2 team.
Alabasern
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4005 Posts
June 02 2012 04:48 GMT
#384
On June 02 2012 13:47 X10A wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2012 13:44 ragnorr wrote:
On June 02 2012 13:42 X10A wrote:
Zealots need a buff too, so Reach will have a reason to come back <3
Speed + that silly running thing

Just remove SC2 protoss and add in BW protoss instead, it was such a beautiful designed race in BW. Dont get the reason that you have to completly redo a race which works really well already -_-

Amen, I don't quite get the point of the zerg 1.5 unit, or that football player looking terran bio unit


Blizzard needs to get their shit together seriously. We need to protest their headquarters.
Support your esport!
WickedBit
Profile Joined August 2010
United States343 Posts
June 02 2012 04:48 GMT
#385
On June 02 2012 13:40 ImNightmare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2012 13:39 X10A wrote:
Remove tripod, and make gateways produce faster than the imba gates warp in. That'd make protoss fun to watch

Current protoss sc2 players would argue against it. They don't want it to be fun to watch, they want to win. :/


Maybe the current pros would argue against it but as a casual player I played protoss till a month back and finally got fed up with this stupid unit and switched to terran. Now I lose more but at least its a lot more fun. I refuse to play protoss again till they fix this.
There have been lots of threads in SC2 forums just arguing what you said above. WG and colossus are so imba that normal toss units have to suffer which was behind most of the early toss woes in SC2. I would have rejoiced if they removed the colossus instead of the carrier in HOTS but blizzard are just too arrogant to admit their mistakes.
ImNightmare
Profile Joined May 2012
1575 Posts
June 02 2012 04:48 GMT
#386
FUCK YOU, WHY PVP AGAIN! OMG! I wanna cry... I wanna watch a Z v T
X10A
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada9837 Posts
June 02 2012 04:49 GMT
#387
Red toss 2 oclock is Hoon
Blue toss 7 oclock is Kal
CJ/T8 Fighting//#1 STX and Bisu anti <3//YES X10A is based off the Freedom Gundam
setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
June 02 2012 04:49 GMT
#388
Yay Kal!
SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
June 02 2012 04:49 GMT
#389
On June 02 2012 13:42 ImNightmare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2012 13:40 SarcasmMonster wrote:
On June 02 2012 13:39 ragnorr wrote:
On June 02 2012 13:38 N.geNuity wrote:
eh, I don't think modern sctoo people go mass colossus as much cuz they die to like blink stalkers early on. But kespa pvp solved that problem--build more robos!

Everything ends up in mass colossus in PvP, there isent any other way to play the matchup as colossus is to good at killing stuff


(High level) PvP rarely ends up to late-game... it almost always ends on 1-2 bases.

Kinda funny isn't it. 2 years ago, people were saying its impossible for zerg to go more than 1 base in z v z. Now we get zergs playing late game units and doing crazy shit with drops, while protoss still does the same thing. Blizzard needs to step up and do something or bw fans are just never going to be fans of sc2 especially with the amount of pvp in proleague.


High level PvP in SC2 == High level ZvZ in BW lol. It's painful but at least it's quick. Once the BW guys get better at SC2, hopefully they learn how to end PvPs quickly.
MMA: The true King of Wings
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
June 02 2012 04:50 GMT
#390
On June 02 2012 13:46 Veldril wrote:
Guemchi violate one of the most important rule in SC2: When you are ahead, just go f**king kill him.


fixed
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
Alabasern
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4005 Posts
June 02 2012 04:50 GMT
#391
On June 02 2012 13:48 WickedBit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2012 13:40 ImNightmare wrote:
On June 02 2012 13:39 X10A wrote:
Remove tripod, and make gateways produce faster than the imba gates warp in. That'd make protoss fun to watch

Current protoss sc2 players would argue against it. They don't want it to be fun to watch, they want to win. :/


Maybe the current pros would argue against it but as a casual player I played protoss till a month back and finally got fed up with this stupid unit and switched to terran. Now I lose more but at least its a lot more fun. I refuse to play protoss again till they fix this.
There have been lots of threads in SC2 forums just arguing what you said above. WG and colossus are so imba that normal toss units have to suffer which was behind most of the early toss woes in SC2. I would have rejoiced if they removed the colossus instead of the carrier in HOTS but blizzard are just too arrogant to admit their mistakes.


(Dustin Browder)

The man copied his old game...
Support your esport!
cLicK
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Canada450 Posts
June 02 2012 04:50 GMT
#392
On June 02 2012 13:48 ImNightmare wrote:
FUCK YOU, WHY PVP AGAIN! OMG! I wanna cry... I wanna watch a Z v T


seriously this -_-.
"정호야 하늘나라에선 아프지말자..." Rest In Peace KT_Violet (우정호)
X10A
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada9837 Posts
June 02 2012 04:50 GMT
#393
Gate->gas for both players
Time boosting out probes
Core for both
CJ/T8 Fighting//#1 STX and Bisu anti <3//YES X10A is based off the Freedom Gundam
sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2547 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-02 04:50:52
June 02 2012 04:50 GMT
#394
On June 02 2012 13:49 SarcasmMonster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2012 13:42 ImNightmare wrote:
On June 02 2012 13:40 SarcasmMonster wrote:
On June 02 2012 13:39 ragnorr wrote:
On June 02 2012 13:38 N.geNuity wrote:
eh, I don't think modern sctoo people go mass colossus as much cuz they die to like blink stalkers early on. But kespa pvp solved that problem--build more robos!

Everything ends up in mass colossus in PvP, there isent any other way to play the matchup as colossus is to good at killing stuff


(High level) PvP rarely ends up to late-game... it almost always ends on 1-2 bases.

Kinda funny isn't it. 2 years ago, people were saying its impossible for zerg to go more than 1 base in z v z. Now we get zergs playing late game units and doing crazy shit with drops, while protoss still does the same thing. Blizzard needs to step up and do something or bw fans are just never going to be fans of sc2 especially with the amount of pvp in proleague.


High level PvP in SC2 == High level ZvZ in BW lol. It's painful but at least it's quick. Once the BW guys get better at SC2, hopefully they learn how to end PvPs quickly.


The sad thing is that you shouldnt wish that a match up end quickly in the first place..
Jaedong Fighting! | youtube.com/ZikGaming
Veldril
Profile Joined August 2010
Thailand1817 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-02 04:52:02
June 02 2012 04:51 GMT
#395
On June 02 2012 13:48 ImNightmare wrote:
FUCK YOU, WHY PVP AGAIN! OMG! I wanna cry... I wanna watch a Z v T


I don't know whose replays they are watching and make them think P is very strong. Seriously, there's no P as a GSL champion for a year already. On the other hand, there's like dozens of strong Terran's that have replays out there.

And the top P players currently play way more aggressive than this.

Without love, we can't see anything. Without love, the truth can't be seen. - Umineko no Naku Koro Ni
Alabasern
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4005 Posts
June 02 2012 04:51 GMT
#396
On June 02 2012 13:50 sM.Zik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2012 13:49 SarcasmMonster wrote:
On June 02 2012 13:42 ImNightmare wrote:
On June 02 2012 13:40 SarcasmMonster wrote:
On June 02 2012 13:39 ragnorr wrote:
On June 02 2012 13:38 N.geNuity wrote:
eh, I don't think modern sctoo people go mass colossus as much cuz they die to like blink stalkers early on. But kespa pvp solved that problem--build more robos!

Everything ends up in mass colossus in PvP, there isent any other way to play the matchup as colossus is to good at killing stuff


(High level) PvP rarely ends up to late-game... it almost always ends on 1-2 bases.

Kinda funny isn't it. 2 years ago, people were saying its impossible for zerg to go more than 1 base in z v z. Now we get zergs playing late game units and doing crazy shit with drops, while protoss still does the same thing. Blizzard needs to step up and do something or bw fans are just never going to be fans of sc2 especially with the amount of pvp in proleague.


High level PvP in SC2 == High level ZvZ in BW lol. It's painful but at least it's quick. Once the BW guys get better at SC2, hopefully they learn how to end PvPs quickly.


The sad thing is that you shouldnt wish that a match up end quickly in the first place..


I just want to punch an Activision corporate rep in the throat.
Support your esport!
ImNightmare
Profile Joined May 2012
1575 Posts
June 02 2012 04:52 GMT
#397
On June 02 2012 13:50 cLicK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2012 13:48 ImNightmare wrote:
FUCK YOU, WHY PVP AGAIN! OMG! I wanna cry... I wanna watch a Z v T


seriously this -_-.

Z v T the best match up in Sc2... and its not played because bw teams all agree protoss is the strongest now and they are forced to play protoss since its their job. sigh...
lyAsakura
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1414 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-02 04:52:38
June 02 2012 04:52 GMT
#398
Oooh, stargate play from kal..
or kal.. lol
blockin off the colors madness
WeMade FOX would be a deadly SC2 team.
X10A
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada9837 Posts
June 02 2012 04:52 GMT
#399
Double gas for Hoon
Mass time boosting his imba gate
Robo for Hoon also
Kal adding stargate
CJ/T8 Fighting//#1 STX and Bisu anti <3//YES X10A is based off the Freedom Gundam
FuRong
Profile Joined April 2010
New Zealand3089 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-02 04:53:32
June 02 2012 04:52 GMT
#400
On June 02 2012 13:49 SarcasmMonster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2012 13:42 ImNightmare wrote:
On June 02 2012 13:40 SarcasmMonster wrote:
On June 02 2012 13:39 ragnorr wrote:
On June 02 2012 13:38 N.geNuity wrote:
eh, I don't think modern sctoo people go mass colossus as much cuz they die to like blink stalkers early on. But kespa pvp solved that problem--build more robos!

Everything ends up in mass colossus in PvP, there isent any other way to play the matchup as colossus is to good at killing stuff


(High level) PvP rarely ends up to late-game... it almost always ends on 1-2 bases.

Kinda funny isn't it. 2 years ago, people were saying its impossible for zerg to go more than 1 base in z v z. Now we get zergs playing late game units and doing crazy shit with drops, while protoss still does the same thing. Blizzard needs to step up and do something or bw fans are just never going to be fans of sc2 especially with the amount of pvp in proleague.


High level PvP in SC2 == High level ZvZ in BW lol. It's painful but at least it's quick. Once the BW guys get better at SC2, hopefully they learn how to end PvPs quickly.


If it was more like BW ZvZ then it would arguably be better. Quick games which end with a fast and furious micro war can be good, but when it gets to the midgame and both players just take their expo and mass Collosus then it's pretty boring. In BW ZvZ you very rarely see the game get past Mutas and two bases, so most games end with Ling or Muta battles which is (imo) actually pretty exciting.
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