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ALLEYCAT BLUES51083 Posts
On May 20 2012 16:19 Taekwon wrote:
i need some clarification on how charge works
as soon as charge activates, does the lot automatically register damage when it reaches a certain distance to the unit or is there blockage or potential for no damage for the chased unit if its fast enough?
and what was the cooldown?
it does damage when it reaches the unit, it wasn't like that before(it had to do the animation too) but it was patched recently that if the charge zealot reaches the hitbox of the unit then it registers as a hit.
cooldown is like 8-10 secs I believe.
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On May 20 2012 16:18 Kazius wrote:
Well, Lizzy played decently, had a few nice moments shutting down the drops. Not bad for an SC2 noob.
You are not sc2 noob when you're GM on KR. Maybe you ment newbie tho?
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On May 20 2012 16:19 Taekwon wrote:
i need some clarification on how charge works
as soon as charge activates, does the lot automatically register damage when it reaches a certain distance to the unit or is there blockage or potential for no damage for the chased unit if its fast enough?
and what was the cooldown?
Charge is simply the zealot charging when it reaches a certain range of a unit, charging zealot are guaranteed a hit, the rest depends on how well the terran is kiting.
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On May 20 2012 16:21 Ribbon wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2012 16:18 Kazius wrote:
Well, Lizzy played decently, had a few nice moments shutting down the drops. Not bad for an SC2 noob. He killed 4 full dropships almost for free, when he was being dropped in two places at once (something lots of protoss have problems with). That's 32 bio units, and the 4 100/100 medivacs, for maybe a zealot. That's the most cost-efficient trade I've ever seen, and BBYong didn't even fuck it up in any obvious way.
The feedback one BByong should have dropped right at the cliff edge. The HT was in the main and wouldn't have reached him.
The mass drop in the main shouldn't have been done, BByong should have scanned ahead and realized he would get sniped.
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On May 20 2012 16:19 Taekwon wrote:
i need some clarification on how charge works
as soon as charge activates, does the lot automatically register damage when it reaches a certain distance to the unit or is there blockage or potential for no damage for the chased unit if its fast enough?
and what was the cooldown?
You are guaranteed one hit, even with marauder slow, but I believe that's it. Cooldown is very small in comparison to other spells, zealots move faster in general, but yes they only get that burst of speed + damage dealt at a certain distance.
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On May 20 2012 16:20 okum wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2012 16:17 Iplaythings wrote:On May 20 2012 16:16 Ideas wrote:
god sc2 tvp is like the worst thing ever Erh, the terran had shit EMP's, bw tvp is no different when 3 stasis eat up your entire army it's completely similar to that But in BW TvP you have tanks and vultures blowing everything up for great justice.
I've watched enough for fOrGG stream to believe that terran just need to figure out what to do vs it, remember the initial days of mechswitch tvz? zergs were being slaughtered left and right.
People will find out eventually what to do if the game does BW justice as its successor
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On May 20 2012 16:20 Vundox wrote:
I missed T1 v T8; anyone got a link to a recap or VOD?
It was underwhelming to say the least. Sayle and pokebunny will have vods later with their commentary, and I'm sure esportstv will put it up eventually with the original korean, but I wouldn't say nay of it was really worthwhile.
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Poll: Will we see Flash play?Trolls, trolls everywhere (12) 67% I believe (3) 17% Yes (3) 17% 18 total votes Your vote: Will we see Flash play? (Vote): I believe
(Vote): Yes
(Vote): Trolls, trolls everywhere
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On May 20 2012 16:21 DystopiaX wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2012 16:19 Taekwon wrote:
i need some clarification on how charge works
as soon as charge activates, does the lot automatically register damage when it reaches a certain distance to the unit or is there blockage or potential for no damage for the chased unit if its fast enough?
and what was the cooldown? It will always do damage- will keep charging until it hits. This is because before T could stim and stutterstep and zealots would be absolutely useless (especially with concussive shells), and P was at a serious disadvantage cause zealots would be useless.
This isn't true. It will only do damage if it actually catches the target. And it will only charge for 3.5 secs, not infinitely.
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On May 20 2012 16:19 TheKefka wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2012 16:17 Whatson wrote:On May 20 2012 16:14 TheKefka wrote:On May 20 2012 16:11 pred470r wrote:
This is like watching sc2 about a year ago. erm...this is pretty standard play I have no idea what you are talking about. This is pretty much the style of protoss that liquidHero has(templar/zealot with a super late game colossus switch) The terran is a bit off,his ghosts are way late- Uh no, MC first toyed with the style earlier on, but with the K Amulet nerf, he dropped it in favor of fast Collosi. With the multiple Ghost nerfs, however, players such as Oz and Puzzle brought it back in GSL and GSTL. I didn't say Hero was the only one that uses this or that he invented it I'm said he has this style. Uh no what?You think this isn't standard play?Go watch 10 last PvTs that parting and hero played.
lol i clearly said "Brought it back"
learn to read bro.
And fyi, HerO has switched multiple times between Collosi first and templar first on stream, as has PartinG, especially in the last rounds of GSL where players have learned to hit a timing before storm completes.
Storm first or Collosi first really depends on what your opponent is doing.
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On May 20 2012 16:19 Taekwon wrote:
i need some clarification on how charge works
as soon as charge activates, does the lot automatically register damage when it reaches a certain distance to the unit or is there blockage or potential for no damage for the chased unit if its fast enough?
and what was the cooldown?
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Charge
It's a hit as soon as the Zealot touches a unit. The cooldown is 10 seconds. It can be manually triggered or left on auto, and most everyone leaves it on auto, and just loses zealots to an occasional zealot on the edge Leeroy Jenkinsing into a factory in front of the army. (If you see a Terran land a factory in the middle of the map, this is part of why they do so)
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"I am 20 years old, and I started sc2 a lot earlier so I am very confident in my skills. Yes, I am grand master."
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ALLEYCAT BLUES51083 Posts
On May 20 2012 16:24 figq wrote:Poll: Will we see Flash play?Trolls, trolls everywhere (12) 67% I believe (3) 17% Yes (3) 17% 18 total votes Your vote: Will we see Flash play? (Vote): I believe
(Vote): Yes
(Vote): Trolls, trolls everywhere
how about no...Hoejja will take it for KT.
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On May 20 2012 16:24 Kiyo. wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2012 16:21 DystopiaX wrote:On May 20 2012 16:19 Taekwon wrote:
i need some clarification on how charge works
as soon as charge activates, does the lot automatically register damage when it reaches a certain distance to the unit or is there blockage or potential for no damage for the chased unit if its fast enough?
and what was the cooldown? It will always do damage- will keep charging until it hits. This is because before T could stim and stutterstep and zealots would be absolutely useless (especially with concussive shells), and P was at a serious disadvantage cause zealots would be useless. This isn't true. It will only do damage if it actually catches the target. And it will only charge for 3.5 secs, not infinitely.
hmm TIL. But it's guaranteed a hit.
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"i hope this will be a good opportunity...but since I played with bbyong, i dont know how it will play out"
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On May 20 2012 16:26 BLinD-RawR wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2012 16:24 figq wrote:Poll: Will we see Flash play?Trolls, trolls everywhere (12) 67% I believe (3) 17% Yes (3) 17% 18 total votes Your vote: Will we see Flash play? (Vote): I believe
(Vote): Yes
(Vote): Trolls, trolls everywhere
how about no...Hoejja will take it for KT.
Kim Seong Dae or Koh Kang Min, it matters little to me
I wanna see some action infestors man, now he doesn't have to survive to hive to get his precious spellcasters
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"as soon as terran used his dropships *yes he said dropships* in a very reckless manner, the tide turned vastly in my favor. since there was no damage done, i thought i was in a great position."
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*something about sc2 options, i have no idea what sc2 menu/option lingo i/does/w/e
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On May 20 2012 16:26 Taekwon wrote:
"i hope this will be a good opportunity...but since I played with bbyong, i dont know how it will play out"
lol even he trashes bbyong? 
Well effort must be going next for CJ right? And blind predicts hoejja for KT so...ZvZ incoming? Maybe? No Flash today? =x
Nope, Hero vs Barracks
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"I will continue to play well and become a strong player! please root for me!'
Apparently a sc2 fan favorite already!
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