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S-Class
Profile Joined November 2011
Korea (North)665 Posts
February 25 2012 04:25 GMT
#641
Does Jaedong intend to kill that scv before it reaches his base?
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
February 25 2012 04:25 GMT
#642
jaedong got away with it i think
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
February 25 2012 04:25 GMT
#643
3hatch before pool
Winechu
Profile Joined May 2011
Singapore1186 Posts
February 25 2012 04:25 GMT
#644
On February 25 2012 13:20 pencil-leads wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 13:19 Winechu wrote:
On February 25 2012 13:16 pencil-leads wrote:
actually i have another noob qns which i googled and found no anwer so hopefully someone enlighten me.

how do you tell if a map is advatageous for terran/protoss/zerg and whether it is disadvantageous for the race?


There's no easy way. Usually you can tell from studying the map features. E.g. choke, highground, accessibility of third, min onlys etc and playing games on it. Alternatively you can check the map stats on TLPD, but they're sometimes inaccurate especially if 1 player skews it.


yup i mean how do i tell? cliffs is better for terrans because of tank range. zerg prefer wider area (because can flank?)? i mean which feature favor which race and why?


Unfortunately I'm not knowledgeable enough about the game to be confident answering the question, and I don't want to mislead you. You can check liquepedia though, I'm pretty sure some of the map pages offer some (albeit limited) analysis. Alternatively you can search the BW news forum, usually previews are available for new maps and they discuss race balance in depth. I recommend the latter.
Celloist
Profile Joined June 2011
447 Posts
February 25 2012 04:25 GMT
#645
fac down after 1 rax
i smell 2 port
The Messiah Cometh!
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
February 25 2012 04:26 GMT
#646
Perfect read so far by JD.
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
pencil-leads
Profile Joined November 2011
Singapore404 Posts
February 25 2012 04:26 GMT
#647
On February 25 2012 13:24 kuroshiroi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 13:18 pencil-leads wrote:
On February 25 2012 13:17 kuroshiroi wrote:
On February 25 2012 13:16 pencil-leads wrote:
actually i have another noob qns which i googled and found no anwer so hopefully someone enlighten me.

how do you tell if a map is advatageous for terran/protoss/zerg and whether it is disadvantageous for the race?

All maps are T favoured until proven otherwise by stats. Look at TLPD for the stats.


i mean what are the factors? so far i only know cliffs would be favorable for terrans (i hope i am not wrong)?

zerg would prefer a map which have sort of a large flat area?

argghhhh i feel so noob

Zerg likes open areas and lots of gas, so open 3-4 player maps are usually good for Zerg. T likes a third easily defendable gas and lots of cliffs/ridges/high terrain. No clue for P though. But yeah, pros sort of show us which maps are good in most cases by which races get sent out. That's the only way to know for sure, I think.




On February 25 2012 13:24 reincremate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 13:18 pencil-leads wrote:
On February 25 2012 13:17 kuroshiroi wrote:
On February 25 2012 13:16 pencil-leads wrote:
actually i have another noob qns which i googled and found no anwer so hopefully someone enlighten me.

how do you tell if a map is advatageous for terran/protoss/zerg and whether it is disadvantageous for the race?

All maps are T favoured until proven otherwise by stats. Look at TLPD for the stats.


i mean what are the factors? so far i only know cliffs would be favorable for terrans (i hope i am not wrong)?

zerg would prefer a map which have sort of a large flat area?

argghhhh i feel so noob

There are a lot of factors Just a few random ones: a difficult to hold/get 3rd base usually favours Z over P, since Z usually takes another nat as their third on maps with no 'natural' 3rd. A wide open centre generally would be Z>P, whereas more narrow push paths are usually more P>Z. Cliffs can favour carrier play vs T. Multiple push paths that allow flanking can favour P over T.



oh i see! thanks for everyone who answered me!
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yepenaxa
Profile Joined July 2011
Belarus2280 Posts
February 25 2012 04:26 GMT
#648
vulture moves in as scv scouts 3rd hatch 2 base
War. Bloody War.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
February 25 2012 04:26 GMT
#649
mech for leta
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pencil-leads
Profile Joined November 2011
Singapore404 Posts
February 25 2012 04:26 GMT
#650
On February 25 2012 13:25 Winechu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 13:20 pencil-leads wrote:
On February 25 2012 13:19 Winechu wrote:
On February 25 2012 13:16 pencil-leads wrote:
actually i have another noob qns which i googled and found no anwer so hopefully someone enlighten me.

how do you tell if a map is advatageous for terran/protoss/zerg and whether it is disadvantageous for the race?


There's no easy way. Usually you can tell from studying the map features. E.g. choke, highground, accessibility of third, min onlys etc and playing games on it. Alternatively you can check the map stats on TLPD, but they're sometimes inaccurate especially if 1 player skews it.


yup i mean how do i tell? cliffs is better for terrans because of tank range. zerg prefer wider area (because can flank?)? i mean which feature favor which race and why?


Unfortunately I'm not knowledgeable enough about the game to be confident answering the question, and I don't want to mislead you. You can check liquepedia though, I'm pretty sure some of the map pages offer some (albeit limited) analysis. Alternatively you can search the BW news forum, usually previews are available for new maps and they discuss race balance in depth. I recommend the latter.


will do so. thanks~~
http://no-more-fairytales.com/scbw
kuroshiroi
Profile Joined November 2010
3149 Posts
February 25 2012 04:26 GMT
#651
Hydra den? Lurker first? Expecting wraith?
Fly Jaedong, fly!
S-Class
Profile Joined November 2011
Korea (North)665 Posts
February 25 2012 04:27 GMT
#652
armory.
gol valk? leta is playing defensive
Gao Xi
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Hong Kong5178 Posts
February 25 2012 04:27 GMT
#653
3 hatch lurkers vs mech?
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Hero.SP
Profile Joined March 2010
Chile711 Posts
February 25 2012 04:27 GMT
#654
You are ok on that stream, nana.
"well you know, the hardest part is the gg, I mean you have to be aware anytime your opponent can type gg, and you have to gg just right after him." - Flash
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
February 25 2012 04:27 GMT
#655
On February 25 2012 13:26 kuroshiroi wrote:
Hydra den? Lurker first? Expecting wraith?

Everyone gets a hydra den when htey see vultures
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
February 25 2012 04:27 GMT
#656
Leta is pretty behind with the pactory expand.
Battleship789
Profile Joined March 2010
United States415 Posts
February 25 2012 04:27 GMT
#657
Imba Ling! Took a mine to the face and lived!
yepenaxa
Profile Joined July 2011
Belarus2280 Posts
February 25 2012 04:27 GMT
#658
hydra den spawns, as well as 2nd gas
War. Bloody War.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51626 Posts
February 25 2012 04:27 GMT
#659
On February 25 2012 13:26 kuroshiroi wrote:
Hydra den? Lurker first? Expecting wraith?


hydras are good against mech units.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
February 25 2012 04:27 GMT
#660
That is the most manliest ling if I ever saw one.
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