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forsooth
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3648 Posts
February 05 2012 05:52 GMT
#781
Oh god those standings, hahaha.
Ciryandor
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3735 Posts
February 05 2012 05:53 GMT
#782
On February 05 2012 14:51 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2012 14:50 zanzib wrote:
if (P)Kal won it would have been probably in Ace's favor.


it would be piano/FBH vs Wooki, both have terrible vP.

Could have been great vs Wooki as well...
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
February 05 2012 05:53 GMT
#783
KT first place by soooo much...jeez
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50640 Posts
February 05 2012 05:54 GMT
#784
On February 05 2012 14:53 Ciryandor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2012 14:51 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On February 05 2012 14:50 zanzib wrote:
if (P)Kal won it would have been probably in Ace's favor.


it would be piano/FBH vs Wooki, both have terrible vP.

Could have been great vs Wooki as well...


worse for ace.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
George_the_man
Profile Joined May 2011
796 Posts
February 05 2012 05:54 GMT
#785
KT finishes round 2 as rank1 for sure now :D glad to see them with +14 minipoints
Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
February 05 2012 05:54 GMT
#786
just proves having 1 or 2 rock solid players means so much more than a deep or diverse line up in this format

starleague needs to start soon T_T
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kuroshiroi
Profile Joined November 2010
3149 Posts
February 05 2012 05:54 GMT
#787
On February 05 2012 14:52 Taekwon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2012 14:49 Turbovolver wrote:
On February 05 2012 14:48 Taekwon wrote:
On February 05 2012 14:47 shucklesors wrote:
this is the fucking meaning of 'in starcraft a misclick loses you the game'


wasnt misclick

Just badness?


when ur playing pvp, u have to constantly make the decision of whether you want ur shuttle microing or fleeing from goon lines
kal wanted to take intiative with first strike but stats was so dam perceptive and moved out at perfect timing with his goons

at that single second, kal had to decide whether stats would snipe his reavers or shuttle. kal would lose 1/both reavers if he chose to micro. in favor of letting his reavers shoot, he saw that stats wasn't sniping his shuttle so for the second shots, he microed with his shuttle. where at that point stats chose to snipe the shuttle - and then the left over reaver

just really really unlucky for kal

In other words, PvP is the worst mirror and the most luck-based.
Fly Jaedong, fly!
mnesthes
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
5433 Posts
February 05 2012 05:55 GMT
#788
dat +14 in the standings :D
<+LighTofHeaveN> Ppl call this "Indigo Children"
Dental Floss
Profile Joined September 2009
United States1015 Posts
February 05 2012 05:55 GMT
#789
On February 05 2012 14:50 Juliette wrote:
gg!

what were those 2 orange/yellow spheres


I think they're a lottery for the signed swag so that the fans don't fight over them. They used to just toss them into the crowd but I guess there must have been a riot for a signed Kim Tae-Gyun mousepad or something.
Kim Tae Gyun.... never forget Perfectman RIP
Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
February 05 2012 05:58 GMT
#790
On February 05 2012 14:54 kuroshiroi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2012 14:52 Taekwon wrote:
On February 05 2012 14:49 Turbovolver wrote:
On February 05 2012 14:48 Taekwon wrote:
On February 05 2012 14:47 shucklesors wrote:
this is the fucking meaning of 'in starcraft a misclick loses you the game'


wasnt misclick

Just badness?


when ur playing pvp, u have to constantly make the decision of whether you want ur shuttle microing or fleeing from goon lines
kal wanted to take intiative with first strike but stats was so dam perceptive and moved out at perfect timing with his goons

at that single second, kal had to decide whether stats would snipe his reavers or shuttle. kal would lose 1/both reavers if he chose to micro. in favor of letting his reavers shoot, he saw that stats wasn't sniping his shuttle so for the second shots, he microed with his shuttle. where at that point stats chose to snipe the shuttle - and then the left over reaver

just really really unlucky for kal

In other words, PvP is the worst mirror and the most luck-based.


i feel like pvp is a mirror where you get the worst feeling... its not like a constant action fest like zvz nor a massive chess game like tvt (while playing)

pvp is just...a mirror where you can build up so much over a long period of time and it can just be all destroyed in a single instance...not like the immaculate action in zvz or in a slow, overriding decisive manner in tvt

just...disappears... to make it worse, thats even assuming there wasnt a gey bo win...

i miss pvp when it was just templar tech.. those were the best
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hellbound
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2242 Posts
February 05 2012 05:59 GMT
#791
On February 05 2012 14:54 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2012 14:53 Ciryandor wrote:
On February 05 2012 14:51 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On February 05 2012 14:50 zanzib wrote:
if (P)Kal won it would have been probably in Ace's favor.


it would be piano/FBH vs Wooki, both have terrible vP.

Could have been great vs Wooki as well...


worse for ace.


Wooki is not that great.
mnesthes
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
5433 Posts
February 05 2012 05:59 GMT
#792
On February 05 2012 14:58 Taekwon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2012 14:54 kuroshiroi wrote:
On February 05 2012 14:52 Taekwon wrote:
On February 05 2012 14:49 Turbovolver wrote:
On February 05 2012 14:48 Taekwon wrote:
On February 05 2012 14:47 shucklesors wrote:
this is the fucking meaning of 'in starcraft a misclick loses you the game'


wasnt misclick

Just badness?


when ur playing pvp, u have to constantly make the decision of whether you want ur shuttle microing or fleeing from goon lines
kal wanted to take intiative with first strike but stats was so dam perceptive and moved out at perfect timing with his goons

at that single second, kal had to decide whether stats would snipe his reavers or shuttle. kal would lose 1/both reavers if he chose to micro. in favor of letting his reavers shoot, he saw that stats wasn't sniping his shuttle so for the second shots, he microed with his shuttle. where at that point stats chose to snipe the shuttle - and then the left over reaver

just really really unlucky for kal

In other words, PvP is the worst mirror and the most luck-based.


i feel like pvp is a mirror where you get the worst feeling... its not like a constant action fest like zvz nor a massive chess game like tvt (while playing)

pvp is just...a mirror where you can build up so much over a long period of time and it can just be all destroyed in a single instance...not like the immaculate action in zvz or in a slow, overriding decisive manner in tvt

just...disappears... to make it worse, thats even assuming there wasnt a gey bo win...

i miss pvp when it was just templar tech.. those were the best
sc2?
<+LighTofHeaveN> Ppl call this "Indigo Children"
Keone
Profile Joined April 2011
United States812 Posts
February 05 2012 06:00 GMT
#793
On February 05 2012 14:50 mnesthes wrote:
Is it me or KT is the deepest most consistent team in the league?

It's just you. KT is about as deep as Nicki Minaj's lyrics, but they are damn consistent simply because their god is damn consistent.
BW Forever. Flash is the Ultimate Bonjwa.
Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
February 05 2012 06:00 GMT
#794
On February 05 2012 14:59 mnesthes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2012 14:58 Taekwon wrote:
On February 05 2012 14:54 kuroshiroi wrote:
On February 05 2012 14:52 Taekwon wrote:
On February 05 2012 14:49 Turbovolver wrote:
On February 05 2012 14:48 Taekwon wrote:
On February 05 2012 14:47 shucklesors wrote:
this is the fucking meaning of 'in starcraft a misclick loses you the game'


wasnt misclick

Just badness?


when ur playing pvp, u have to constantly make the decision of whether you want ur shuttle microing or fleeing from goon lines
kal wanted to take intiative with first strike but stats was so dam perceptive and moved out at perfect timing with his goons

at that single second, kal had to decide whether stats would snipe his reavers or shuttle. kal would lose 1/both reavers if he chose to micro. in favor of letting his reavers shoot, he saw that stats wasn't sniping his shuttle so for the second shots, he microed with his shuttle. where at that point stats chose to snipe the shuttle - and then the left over reaver

just really really unlucky for kal

In other words, PvP is the worst mirror and the most luck-based.


i feel like pvp is a mirror where you get the worst feeling... its not like a constant action fest like zvz nor a massive chess game like tvt (while playing)

pvp is just...a mirror where you can build up so much over a long period of time and it can just be all destroyed in a single instance...not like the immaculate action in zvz or in a slow, overriding decisive manner in tvt

just...disappears... to make it worse, thats even assuming there wasnt a gey bo win...

i miss pvp when it was just templar tech.. those were the best
sc2?


wuts dat
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mnesthes
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
5433 Posts
February 05 2012 06:01 GMT
#795
On February 05 2012 14:59 hellbound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2012 14:54 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On February 05 2012 14:53 Ciryandor wrote:
On February 05 2012 14:51 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On February 05 2012 14:50 zanzib wrote:
if (P)Kal won it would have been probably in Ace's favor.


it would be piano/FBH vs Wooki, both have terrible vP.

Could have been great vs Wooki as well...


worse for ace.


Wooki is not that great.
11-8 lifetime with no sub-50% MU and 3-2 from the start of this season including wins against Jangbi and Zero.
<+LighTofHeaveN> Ppl call this "Indigo Children"
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
February 05 2012 06:01 GMT
#796
On February 05 2012 15:00 Keone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2012 14:50 mnesthes wrote:
Is it me or KT is the deepest most consistent team in the league?

It's just you. KT is about as deep as Nicki Minaj's lyrics, but they are damn consistent simply because their god is damn consistent.

well, KT has been adding players recently unlike other teams

the championship must have loosened the corporate marketing budget
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
hellbound
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2242 Posts
February 05 2012 06:02 GMT
#797
On February 05 2012 14:59 mnesthes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2012 14:58 Taekwon wrote:
On February 05 2012 14:54 kuroshiroi wrote:
On February 05 2012 14:52 Taekwon wrote:
On February 05 2012 14:49 Turbovolver wrote:
On February 05 2012 14:48 Taekwon wrote:
On February 05 2012 14:47 shucklesors wrote:
this is the fucking meaning of 'in starcraft a misclick loses you the game'


wasnt misclick

Just badness?


when ur playing pvp, u have to constantly make the decision of whether you want ur shuttle microing or fleeing from goon lines
kal wanted to take intiative with first strike but stats was so dam perceptive and moved out at perfect timing with his goons

at that single second, kal had to decide whether stats would snipe his reavers or shuttle. kal would lose 1/both reavers if he chose to micro. in favor of letting his reavers shoot, he saw that stats wasn't sniping his shuttle so for the second shots, he microed with his shuttle. where at that point stats chose to snipe the shuttle - and then the left over reaver

just really really unlucky for kal

In other words, PvP is the worst mirror and the most luck-based.


i feel like pvp is a mirror where you get the worst feeling... its not like a constant action fest like zvz nor a massive chess game like tvt (while playing)

pvp is just...a mirror where you can build up so much over a long period of time and it can just be all destroyed in a single instance...not like the immaculate action in zvz or in a slow, overriding decisive manner in tvt

just...disappears... to make it worse, thats even assuming there wasnt a gey bo win...

i miss pvp when it was just templar tech.. those were the best
sc2?


Sc2 it the Hitler of BW forums, as explained by Godwin's law. Was it really necessary?
nakedsurfer
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada500 Posts
February 05 2012 06:02 GMT
#798
On February 05 2012 14:50 mnesthes wrote:
Is it me or KT is the deepest most consistent team in the league?


No but it does help having 1 player who just never loses.
Root4Root
mnesthes
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
5433 Posts
February 05 2012 06:02 GMT
#799
On February 05 2012 15:00 Taekwon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2012 14:59 mnesthes wrote:
On February 05 2012 14:58 Taekwon wrote:
On February 05 2012 14:54 kuroshiroi wrote:
On February 05 2012 14:52 Taekwon wrote:
On February 05 2012 14:49 Turbovolver wrote:
On February 05 2012 14:48 Taekwon wrote:
On February 05 2012 14:47 shucklesors wrote:
this is the fucking meaning of 'in starcraft a misclick loses you the game'


wasnt misclick

Just badness?


when ur playing pvp, u have to constantly make the decision of whether you want ur shuttle microing or fleeing from goon lines
kal wanted to take intiative with first strike but stats was so dam perceptive and moved out at perfect timing with his goons

at that single second, kal had to decide whether stats would snipe his reavers or shuttle. kal would lose 1/both reavers if he chose to micro. in favor of letting his reavers shoot, he saw that stats wasn't sniping his shuttle so for the second shots, he microed with his shuttle. where at that point stats chose to snipe the shuttle - and then the left over reaver

just really really unlucky for kal

In other words, PvP is the worst mirror and the most luck-based.


i feel like pvp is a mirror where you get the worst feeling... its not like a constant action fest like zvz nor a massive chess game like tvt (while playing)

pvp is just...a mirror where you can build up so much over a long period of time and it can just be all destroyed in a single instance...not like the immaculate action in zvz or in a slow, overriding decisive manner in tvt

just...disappears... to make it worse, thats even assuming there wasnt a gey bo win...

i miss pvp when it was just templar tech.. those were the best
sc2?


wuts dat
just a reference from a post I read somewhere on TL that said huge battles in sc2 feel just like that
<+LighTofHeaveN> Ppl call this "Indigo Children"
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
February 05 2012 06:03 GMT
#800
On February 05 2012 15:02 nakedsurfer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2012 14:50 mnesthes wrote:
Is it me or KT is the deepest most consistent team in the league?


No but it does help having 1 player who just never loses.


Fantasy is 9-1 to Flash's 10-0 and SKT1 is 7-7 while KT is 9-4.

Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
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