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hellbound
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2242 Posts
February 05 2012 06:04 GMT
#801
On February 05 2012 15:01 mnesthes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2012 14:59 hellbound wrote:
On February 05 2012 14:54 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On February 05 2012 14:53 Ciryandor wrote:
On February 05 2012 14:51 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On February 05 2012 14:50 zanzib wrote:
if (P)Kal won it would have been probably in Ace's favor.


it would be piano/FBH vs Wooki, both have terrible vP.

Could have been great vs Wooki as well...


worse for ace.


Wooki is not that great.
11-8 lifetime with no sub-50% MU and 3-2 from the start of this season including wins against Jangbi and Zero.


A mirror against Jangbi and do you know what Zero's stats are this season? I am not convinced. Making out that ~20th best protoss in the league as some sort of invincible force is a bit much.
Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2394 Posts
February 05 2012 06:04 GMT
#802
On February 05 2012 14:52 Taekwon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2012 14:49 Turbovolver wrote:
On February 05 2012 14:48 Taekwon wrote:
On February 05 2012 14:47 shucklesors wrote:
this is the fucking meaning of 'in starcraft a misclick loses you the game'


wasnt misclick

Just badness?


when ur playing pvp, u have to constantly make the decision of whether you want ur shuttle microing or fleeing from goon lines
kal wanted to take intiative with first strike but stats was so dam perceptive and moved out at perfect timing with his goons

at that single second, kal had to decide whether stats would snipe his reavers or shuttle. kal would lose 1/both reavers if he chose to micro. in favor of letting his reavers shoot, he saw that stats wasn't sniping his shuttle so for the second shots, he microed with his shuttle. where at that point stats chose to snipe the shuttle - and then the left over reaver

just really really unlucky for kal

What? Kal's reavers took reaver shots that he could've avoided if he picked up his reavers. He clearly tried to, and failed.

You say that Stats moved out at perfect time with his goons, that did allow him to snipe the shuttle but if Kal doesn't mismicro and doesn't take the reaver hits, the shuttle can die and he will still have the two reavers there, and probably win the fight.
The original Bogus fan.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50604 Posts
February 05 2012 06:05 GMT
#803
On February 05 2012 14:59 hellbound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2012 14:54 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On February 05 2012 14:53 Ciryandor wrote:
On February 05 2012 14:51 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On February 05 2012 14:50 zanzib wrote:
if (P)Kal won it would have been probably in Ace's favor.


it would be piano/FBH vs Wooki, both have terrible vP.

Could have been great vs Wooki as well...


worse for ace.


Wooki is not that great.

but his vZ is really good and PvZ this season itself is terrible for zerg.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
February 05 2012 06:05 GMT
#804
On February 05 2012 15:03 Fionn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2012 15:02 nakedsurfer wrote:
On February 05 2012 14:50 mnesthes wrote:
Is it me or KT is the deepest most consistent team in the league?


No but it does help having 1 player who just never loses.


Fantasy is 9-1 to Flash's 10-0 and SKT1 is 7-7 while KT is 9-4.


Because, as hard is it to admit it, KT zergs are, on average, better than SKT zergs.

Writer:o
mnesthes
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
5433 Posts
February 05 2012 06:07 GMT
#805
On February 05 2012 15:04 hellbound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2012 15:01 mnesthes wrote:
On February 05 2012 14:59 hellbound wrote:
On February 05 2012 14:54 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On February 05 2012 14:53 Ciryandor wrote:
On February 05 2012 14:51 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On February 05 2012 14:50 zanzib wrote:
if (P)Kal won it would have been probably in Ace's favor.


it would be piano/FBH vs Wooki, both have terrible vP.

Could have been great vs Wooki as well...


worse for ace.


Wooki is not that great.
11-8 lifetime with no sub-50% MU and 3-2 from the start of this season including wins against Jangbi and Zero.


A mirror against Jangbi and do you know what Zero's stats are this season? I am not convinced. Making out that ~20th best protoss in the league as some sort of invincible force is a bit much.
lol tone down the aggression
Read the previously quoted posts and see ppl were talking about sending Wooki against great which is not that bad considering both players' current form.
<+LighTofHeaveN> Ppl call this "Indigo Children"
Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
February 05 2012 06:08 GMT
#806
On February 05 2012 15:04 Turbovolver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2012 14:52 Taekwon wrote:
On February 05 2012 14:49 Turbovolver wrote:
On February 05 2012 14:48 Taekwon wrote:
On February 05 2012 14:47 shucklesors wrote:
this is the fucking meaning of 'in starcraft a misclick loses you the game'


wasnt misclick

Just badness?


when ur playing pvp, u have to constantly make the decision of whether you want ur shuttle microing or fleeing from goon lines
kal wanted to take intiative with first strike but stats was so dam perceptive and moved out at perfect timing with his goons

at that single second, kal had to decide whether stats would snipe his reavers or shuttle. kal would lose 1/both reavers if he chose to micro. in favor of letting his reavers shoot, he saw that stats wasn't sniping his shuttle so for the second shots, he microed with his shuttle. where at that point stats chose to snipe the shuttle - and then the left over reaver

just really really unlucky for kal

What? Kal's reavers took reaver shots that he could've avoided if he picked up his reavers. He clearly tried to, and failed.

You say that Stats moved out at perfect time with his goons, that did allow him to snipe the shuttle but if Kal doesn't mismicro and doesn't take the reaver hits, the shuttle can die and he will still have the two reavers there, and probably win the fight.


I don't think I understand what you're saying lol.
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Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2394 Posts
February 05 2012 06:10 GMT
#807
On February 05 2012 15:08 Taekwon wrote:
I don't think I understand what you're saying lol.

The fight started with Kal putting his reavers out the front, shooting from long range and trying to pick them up after to avoid the reaver shots back.

He failed to pick them up, stats moved forward and sniped the shuttle, gg.

This is literally what happened.
The original Bogus fan.
hellbound
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2242 Posts
February 05 2012 06:10 GMT
#808
On February 05 2012 15:07 mnesthes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2012 15:04 hellbound wrote:
On February 05 2012 15:01 mnesthes wrote:
On February 05 2012 14:59 hellbound wrote:
On February 05 2012 14:54 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On February 05 2012 14:53 Ciryandor wrote:
On February 05 2012 14:51 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On February 05 2012 14:50 zanzib wrote:
if (P)Kal won it would have been probably in Ace's favor.


it would be piano/FBH vs Wooki, both have terrible vP.

Could have been great vs Wooki as well...


worse for ace.


Wooki is not that great.
11-8 lifetime with no sub-50% MU and 3-2 from the start of this season including wins against Jangbi and Zero.


A mirror against Jangbi and do you know what Zero's stats are this season? I am not convinced. Making out that ~20th best protoss in the league as some sort of invincible force is a bit much.
lol tone down the aggression
Read the previously quoted posts and see ppl were talking about sending Wooki against great which is not that bad considering both players' current form.


God damnit I didn't feel aggressive writing that at all

I think it's time to call it a day. Don't look down on great.
Pistoche
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada127 Posts
February 05 2012 06:11 GMT
#809
On February 05 2012 15:10 Turbovolver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2012 15:08 Taekwon wrote:
I don't think I understand what you're saying lol.

The fight started with Kal putting his reavers out the front, shooting from long range and trying to pick them up after to avoid the reaver shots back.

He failed to pick them up, stats moved forward and sniped the shuttle, gg.

This is literally what happened.


I fail to see your point, if he picks them up, they die in the shuttle.
Winning isnt everything, its the only thing!
Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2394 Posts
February 05 2012 06:12 GMT
#810
On February 05 2012 15:11 Pistoche wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2012 15:10 Turbovolver wrote:
On February 05 2012 15:08 Taekwon wrote:
I don't think I understand what you're saying lol.

The fight started with Kal putting his reavers out the front, shooting from long range and trying to pick them up after to avoid the reaver shots back.

He failed to pick them up, stats moved forward and sniped the shuttle, gg.

This is literally what happened.


I fail to see your point, if he picks them up, they die in the shuttle.

The shuttle would've been gone if he got them the first time, instead of hanging around to try (and successfully get one) after.
The original Bogus fan.
Pistoche
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada127 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-05 06:16:15
February 05 2012 06:13 GMT
#811
On February 05 2012 15:12 Turbovolver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2012 15:11 Pistoche wrote:
On February 05 2012 15:10 Turbovolver wrote:
On February 05 2012 15:08 Taekwon wrote:
I don't think I understand what you're saying lol.

The fight started with Kal putting his reavers out the front, shooting from long range and trying to pick them up after to avoid the reaver shots back.

He failed to pick them up, stats moved forward and sniped the shuttle, gg.

This is literally what happened.


I fail to see your point, if he picks them up, they die in the shuttle.

The shuttle would've been gone if he got them the first time, instead of hanging around to try (and successfully get one) after.


In that case it's not a misclick, it's an error in judgment (decision-making)

Edit: sorry, was thinking I was talking to the other guy.
Winning isnt everything, its the only thing!
Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-05 06:16:41
February 05 2012 06:15 GMT
#812
On February 05 2012 15:10 Turbovolver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2012 15:08 Taekwon wrote:
I don't think I understand what you're saying lol.

The fight started with Kal putting his reavers out the front, shooting from long range and trying to pick them up after to avoid the reaver shots back.

He failed to pick them up, stats moved forward and sniped the shuttle, gg.

This is literally what happened.


"The fight started with Kal putting his reavers out the front, shooting from long range". this much is true. But he hadn't expected stats to move his goons as soon as the reavers were placed down. That incited the split-second decision Kal had to make. Reaver fires, Kal picks one - it gets killed and then the other one also immediately executed. It would be unfavorable also because Stats had two reavers of his own at that point but Kal wasn't sure of Stat's reaver count or whether he had a shuttle or not.

This was why everyone was calling it an unbridled fail. Having the two reavers sniped side by side, would've been a bit better on the fail scale as they would've at least had a fighting chance and covered fire from Kal's goons.

But unfortunately something like this can't be decided until the VODs, unless you get someone else to corroborate your side of the story. This of course goes for me as well.
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50604 Posts
February 05 2012 06:18 GMT
#813
On February 05 2012 15:10 hellbound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2012 15:07 mnesthes wrote:
On February 05 2012 15:04 hellbound wrote:
On February 05 2012 15:01 mnesthes wrote:
On February 05 2012 14:59 hellbound wrote:
On February 05 2012 14:54 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On February 05 2012 14:53 Ciryandor wrote:
On February 05 2012 14:51 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On February 05 2012 14:50 zanzib wrote:
if (P)Kal won it would have been probably in Ace's favor.


it would be piano/FBH vs Wooki, both have terrible vP.

Could have been great vs Wooki as well...


worse for ace.


Wooki is not that great.
11-8 lifetime with no sub-50% MU and 3-2 from the start of this season including wins against Jangbi and Zero.


A mirror against Jangbi and do you know what Zero's stats are this season? I am not convinced. Making out that ~20th best protoss in the league as some sort of invincible force is a bit much.
lol tone down the aggression
Read the previously quoted posts and see ppl were talking about sending Wooki against great which is not that bad considering both players' current form.


God damnit I didn't feel aggressive writing that at all

I think it's time to call it a day. Don't look down on great.


I love great, but only when he plays ZvZ.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
February 05 2012 06:19 GMT
#814
Pretty sure Kal saw everything with his obs. Was just a massive fail.
Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
February 05 2012 06:44 GMT
#815
Yay KT! first team to have 200 proleague wins :D
ModeratorFlash Sea Action Snow Midas | TheStC Ret Tyler MC | RIP 우정호
Mobius_1
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2763 Posts
February 05 2012 07:19 GMT
#816
On February 05 2012 15:05 Kiett wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2012 15:03 Fionn wrote:
On February 05 2012 15:02 nakedsurfer wrote:
On February 05 2012 14:50 mnesthes wrote:
Is it me or KT is the deepest most consistent team in the league?


No but it does help having 1 player who just never loses.


Fantasy is 9-1 to Flash's 10-0 and SKT1 is 7-7 while KT is 9-4.


Because, as hard is it to admit it, KT zergs are, on average, better than SKT zergs.



The Win/Loss ratio of SKT Zergs is the joint lowest this season on par with STX Zergs.

T______T
Starleague Forever. RIP KT Violet~
ne4aJIb
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Russian Federation3209 Posts
February 05 2012 07:33 GMT
#817
Kal just did a big mistake,he could win.
Bisu,Best,Stork,Jangbi and Flash, Fantasy, Leta, Light and Jaedong, Hydra, Zero, Soulkey assemble in ACE now!
zeehar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)3804 Posts
February 05 2012 07:39 GMT
#818
On February 05 2012 15:44 Antoine wrote:
Yay KT! first team to have 200 proleague wins :D


yay!

kt too good
I AM THE UNIVERSAL CONSTANT
Neo7
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States922 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-05 07:44:44
February 05 2012 07:44 GMT
#819
Did anyone see this commercial after Iris vs Flash? What on earth was this supposed to be about?

It takes an idiot to do cool things.
Hinanawi
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2250 Posts
February 05 2012 07:44 GMT
#820
KT's 9-4 ranking is all the more mindblowing when you realize they came back from a 0-3 deficit at the beginning. Hot damn.
Favorite progamers (in order): Flash, Stork, Violet, Sea. ||| Get better soon, Violet!
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