On February 05 2012 14:50 zanzib wrote: if Kal won it would have been probably in Ace's favor.
it would be piano/FBH vs Wooki, both have terrible vP.
Could have been great vs Wooki as well...
worse for ace.
Wooki is not that great.
11-8 lifetime with no sub-50% MU and 3-2 from the start of this season including wins against Jangbi and Zero.
A mirror against Jangbi and do you know what Zero's stats are this season? I am not convinced. Making out that ~20th best protoss in the league as some sort of invincible force is a bit much.
On February 05 2012 14:47 shucklesors wrote: this is the fucking meaning of 'in starcraft a misclick loses you the game'
wasnt misclick
Just badness?
when ur playing pvp, u have to constantly make the decision of whether you want ur shuttle microing or fleeing from goon lines kal wanted to take intiative with first strike but stats was so dam perceptive and moved out at perfect timing with his goons
at that single second, kal had to decide whether stats would snipe his reavers or shuttle. kal would lose 1/both reavers if he chose to micro. in favor of letting his reavers shoot, he saw that stats wasn't sniping his shuttle so for the second shots, he microed with his shuttle. where at that point stats chose to snipe the shuttle - and then the left over reaver
just really really unlucky for kal
What? Kal's reavers took reaver shots that he could've avoided if he picked up his reavers. He clearly tried to, and failed.
You say that Stats moved out at perfect time with his goons, that did allow him to snipe the shuttle but if Kal doesn't mismicro and doesn't take the reaver hits, the shuttle can die and he will still have the two reavers there, and probably win the fight.
On February 05 2012 14:50 zanzib wrote: if Kal won it would have been probably in Ace's favor.
it would be piano/FBH vs Wooki, both have terrible vP.
Could have been great vs Wooki as well...
worse for ace.
Wooki is not that great.
11-8 lifetime with no sub-50% MU and 3-2 from the start of this season including wins against Jangbi and Zero.
A mirror against Jangbi and do you know what Zero's stats are this season? I am not convinced. Making out that ~20th best protoss in the league as some sort of invincible force is a bit much.
lol tone down the aggression Read the previously quoted posts and see ppl were talking about sending Wooki against great which is not that bad considering both players' current form.
On February 05 2012 14:47 shucklesors wrote: this is the fucking meaning of 'in starcraft a misclick loses you the game'
wasnt misclick
Just badness?
when ur playing pvp, u have to constantly make the decision of whether you want ur shuttle microing or fleeing from goon lines kal wanted to take intiative with first strike but stats was so dam perceptive and moved out at perfect timing with his goons
at that single second, kal had to decide whether stats would snipe his reavers or shuttle. kal would lose 1/both reavers if he chose to micro. in favor of letting his reavers shoot, he saw that stats wasn't sniping his shuttle so for the second shots, he microed with his shuttle. where at that point stats chose to snipe the shuttle - and then the left over reaver
just really really unlucky for kal
What? Kal's reavers took reaver shots that he could've avoided if he picked up his reavers. He clearly tried to, and failed.
You say that Stats moved out at perfect time with his goons, that did allow him to snipe the shuttle but if Kal doesn't mismicro and doesn't take the reaver hits, the shuttle can die and he will still have the two reavers there, and probably win the fight.
I don't think I understand what you're saying lol.
On February 05 2012 15:08 Taekwon wrote: I don't think I understand what you're saying lol.
The fight started with Kal putting his reavers out the front, shooting from long range and trying to pick them up after to avoid the reaver shots back.
He failed to pick them up, stats moved forward and sniped the shuttle, gg.
On February 05 2012 14:50 zanzib wrote: if Kal won it would have been probably in Ace's favor.
it would be piano/FBH vs Wooki, both have terrible vP.
Could have been great vs Wooki as well...
worse for ace.
Wooki is not that great.
11-8 lifetime with no sub-50% MU and 3-2 from the start of this season including wins against Jangbi and Zero.
A mirror against Jangbi and do you know what Zero's stats are this season? I am not convinced. Making out that ~20th best protoss in the league as some sort of invincible force is a bit much.
lol tone down the aggression Read the previously quoted posts and see ppl were talking about sending Wooki against great which is not that bad considering both players' current form.
God damnit I didn't feel aggressive writing that at all
I think it's time to call it a day. Don't look down on great.
On February 05 2012 15:08 Taekwon wrote: I don't think I understand what you're saying lol.
The fight started with Kal putting his reavers out the front, shooting from long range and trying to pick them up after to avoid the reaver shots back.
He failed to pick them up, stats moved forward and sniped the shuttle, gg.
This is literally what happened.
I fail to see your point, if he picks them up, they die in the shuttle.
On February 05 2012 15:08 Taekwon wrote: I don't think I understand what you're saying lol.
The fight started with Kal putting his reavers out the front, shooting from long range and trying to pick them up after to avoid the reaver shots back.
He failed to pick them up, stats moved forward and sniped the shuttle, gg.
This is literally what happened.
I fail to see your point, if he picks them up, they die in the shuttle.
The shuttle would've been gone if he got them the first time, instead of hanging around to try (and successfully get one) after.
On February 05 2012 15:08 Taekwon wrote: I don't think I understand what you're saying lol.
The fight started with Kal putting his reavers out the front, shooting from long range and trying to pick them up after to avoid the reaver shots back.
He failed to pick them up, stats moved forward and sniped the shuttle, gg.
This is literally what happened.
I fail to see your point, if he picks them up, they die in the shuttle.
The shuttle would've been gone if he got them the first time, instead of hanging around to try (and successfully get one) after.
In that case it's not a misclick, it's an error in judgment (decision-making)
Edit: sorry, was thinking I was talking to the other guy.
On February 05 2012 15:08 Taekwon wrote: I don't think I understand what you're saying lol.
The fight started with Kal putting his reavers out the front, shooting from long range and trying to pick them up after to avoid the reaver shots back.
He failed to pick them up, stats moved forward and sniped the shuttle, gg.
This is literally what happened.
"The fight started with Kal putting his reavers out the front, shooting from long range". this much is true. But he hadn't expected stats to move his goons as soon as the reavers were placed down. That incited the split-second decision Kal had to make. Reaver fires, Kal picks one - it gets killed and then the other one also immediately executed. It would be unfavorable also because Stats had two reavers of his own at that point but Kal wasn't sure of Stat's reaver count or whether he had a shuttle or not.
This was why everyone was calling it an unbridled fail. Having the two reavers sniped side by side, would've been a bit better on the fail scale as they would've at least had a fighting chance and covered fire from Kal's goons.
But unfortunately something like this can't be decided until the VODs, unless you get someone else to corroborate your side of the story. This of course goes for me as well.
On February 05 2012 14:50 zanzib wrote: if Kal won it would have been probably in Ace's favor.
it would be piano/FBH vs Wooki, both have terrible vP.
Could have been great vs Wooki as well...
worse for ace.
Wooki is not that great.
11-8 lifetime with no sub-50% MU and 3-2 from the start of this season including wins against Jangbi and Zero.
A mirror against Jangbi and do you know what Zero's stats are this season? I am not convinced. Making out that ~20th best protoss in the league as some sort of invincible force is a bit much.
lol tone down the aggression Read the previously quoted posts and see ppl were talking about sending Wooki against great which is not that bad considering both players' current form.
God damnit I didn't feel aggressive writing that at all
I think it's time to call it a day. Don't look down on great.