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zyxophoj
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom6 Posts
January 11 2012 19:53 GMT
#1041
OK, please help a noob understand why zergs are losing so badly to this. (Flash vs Great also ended with a bio push beating the spire, although that game was a bit different. And a lot more interesting.)

On January 12 2012 00:21 revy wrote:
Was a 3 hatch and no sunkens, that's greedy.


Is a non-greedy build a bad idea in ZvF?

After this game and after the one vs Soo, Flash said he was lucky not to get scouted. Is he being modest, or is he making this hard to scout somehow?



BROODWAAAAAAR!!
Ermac
Profile Joined June 2011
336 Posts
January 11 2012 19:55 GMT
#1042
On January 12 2012 04:15 kamikami wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2012 13:44 kdgns wrote:
On January 11 2012 12:28 Xiphos wrote:
If Team 8 disband because of this, then I sure hope that all you KT fanboys out there are happy


come on losing to KT 3-0 is nothing to be ashamed of, look at Khan, they're still showing their face and their 0-3 loss didnt even have flash in it.


Lol, that proves KT is OP, now even KT fans admit it ^^.


Your "[insert random person/team/thing you dislike] is OP!!" antics are getting very old, very fast. Do everyone, including yourself, a favor and stop.

Calling players or teams OP in a game where player skill is everything that matters is beyond ridiculous btw. You're actually complimenting the players you're trying to belittle.
"Blind aggressiveness would destroy the attack itself, not the defense." - Carl von Clausewitz
kamikami
Profile Joined November 2010
France1057 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-11 20:53:33
January 11 2012 20:52 GMT
#1043
On January 12 2012 04:55 Ermac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2012 04:15 kamikami wrote:
On January 11 2012 13:44 kdgns wrote:
On January 11 2012 12:28 Xiphos wrote:
If Team 8 disband because of this, then I sure hope that all you KT fanboys out there are happy


come on losing to KT 3-0 is nothing to be ashamed of, look at Khan, they're still showing their face and their 0-3 loss didnt even have flash in it.


Lol, that proves KT is OP, now even KT fans admit it ^^.


Your "[insert random person/team/thing you dislike] is OP!!" antics are getting very old, very fast. Do everyone, including yourself, a favor and stop.

Calling players or teams OP in a game where player skill is everything that matters is beyond ridiculous btw. You're actually complimenting the players you're trying to belittle.


Why do you think I want to belittle the players ? They are progamers, they all get my respect. I only hate KT team, KT fans and the terran race lol. Also the guy I quoted managed to bash 2 teams and praised his own team in one sentence, he deserves the "OP" stuff )
Khassar de Templari
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
January 12 2012 03:54 GMT
#1044
I've only now watched Stats vs Baby and what a poor play by baby it was. It seemed like a Korean pro was playing a foreigner. That push was so bad...

But I have to say baby looked really down even before the game started. I wonder if there is anything bad going inside team 8. I hope they will redeem themselves a bit against CJ.
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
January 12 2012 08:04 GMT
#1045
On January 12 2012 12:54 Lebesgue wrote:
I've only now watched Stats vs Baby and what a poor play by baby it was. It seemed like a Korean pro was playing a foreigner. That push was so bad...

But I have to say baby looked really down even before the game started. I wonder if there is anything bad going inside team 8. I hope they will redeem themselves a bit against CJ.


He had the same look when there was a rumour that We Made Fox was about to be disbanded . Something's go on definitely , the team mates don't look really cheery at all or supportive compared to a sponsored team .
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-12 08:19:19
January 12 2012 08:19 GMT
#1046
On January 12 2012 05:52 kamikami wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2012 04:55 Ermac wrote:
On January 12 2012 04:15 kamikami wrote:
On January 11 2012 13:44 kdgns wrote:
On January 11 2012 12:28 Xiphos wrote:
If Team 8 disband because of this, then I sure hope that all you KT fanboys out there are happy


come on losing to KT 3-0 is nothing to be ashamed of, look at Khan, they're still showing their face and their 0-3 loss didnt even have flash in it.


Lol, that proves KT is OP, now even KT fans admit it ^^.


Your "[insert random person/team/thing you dislike] is OP!!" antics are getting very old, very fast. Do everyone, including yourself, a favor and stop.

Calling players or teams OP in a game where player skill is everything that matters is beyond ridiculous btw. You're actually complimenting the players you're trying to belittle.


Why do you think I want to belittle the players ? They are progamers, they all get my respect. I only hate KT team, KT fans and the terran race lol. Also the guy I quoted managed to bash 2 teams and praised his own team in one sentence, he deserves the "OP" stuff )


Boxer. Oov. Midas. Fantasy

An SKT fan is the last person on earth who should be complaining about terran.
SCnai
Profile Joined February 2010
322 Posts
January 12 2012 08:30 GMT
#1047
On January 12 2012 04:53 zyxophoj wrote:
OK, please help a noob understand why zergs are losing so badly to this. (Flash vs Great also ended with a bio push beating the spire, although that game was a bit different. And a lot more interesting.)

Show nested quote +
On January 12 2012 00:21 revy wrote:
Was a 3 hatch and no sunkens, that's greedy.


Is a non-greedy build a bad idea in ZvF?

After this game and after the one vs Soo, Flash said he was lucky not to get scouted. Is he being modest, or is he making this hard to scout somehow?


Hi there! Welcome to BW and TL. I'm far from a BW expert. That being said, this pre-Spire bio push cannot be held without sunkens if Z is going for a fast Spire. Sometimes Zergs build creep colonies preemptively to be able to morph sunkens on a short notice. In the game vs Soo, Soo's zergling arrived at Flash's front door a second after the bio went out. I'm not sure if this was pure Soo screw-up or if there was more going on.

Incidentally, have you already found Nukethestars' Youtube channel? You'll have a blast going through the video archive and learn BW too.
The legend of the fall, which everyone thought was only a dream, is being revived! Carriers, the symbol of Protoss, the hope of a million Protoss fans, are reviving the legend!
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
January 12 2012 08:31 GMT
#1048
On January 12 2012 12:54 Lebesgue wrote:
I've only now watched Stats vs Baby and what a poor play by baby it was. It seemed like a Korean pro was playing a foreigner. That push was so bad...

But I have to say baby looked really down even before the game started. I wonder if there is anything bad going inside team 8. I hope they will redeem themselves a bit against CJ.


i hope so but isnt CJ in first? it doesnt look good. baby and JD need to win for them to even have a chance
shaftofpleasure
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Korea (North)1375 Posts
January 12 2012 10:11 GMT
#1049
On January 12 2012 17:19 red4ce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2012 05:52 kamikami wrote:
On January 12 2012 04:55 Ermac wrote:
On January 12 2012 04:15 kamikami wrote:
On January 11 2012 13:44 kdgns wrote:
On January 11 2012 12:28 Xiphos wrote:
If Team 8 disband because of this, then I sure hope that all you KT fanboys out there are happy


come on losing to KT 3-0 is nothing to be ashamed of, look at Khan, they're still showing their face and their 0-3 loss didnt even have flash in it.


Lol, that proves KT is OP, now even KT fans admit it ^^.


Your "[insert random person/team/thing you dislike] is OP!!" antics are getting very old, very fast. Do everyone, including yourself, a favor and stop.

Calling players or teams OP in a game where player skill is everything that matters is beyond ridiculous btw. You're actually complimenting the players you're trying to belittle.


Why do you think I want to belittle the players ? They are progamers, they all get my respect. I only hate KT team, KT fans and the terran race lol. Also the guy I quoted managed to bash 2 teams and praised his own team in one sentence, he deserves the "OP" stuff )


Boxer. Oov. Midas. Fantasy

An SKT fan is the last person on earth who should be complaining about terran.


But you have like God.

you combine those 4 and all SKT have is a Cute Monkey Terrorist Emperor.
It's either the holes of my nose are getting smaller or my fingers are getting bigger. /// Always Rooting for the Underdog. Hyuk/Sin/Jaehoon/Juni/Hyvva/Hoejja/Canata //// Hiding in thread somewhere where BW is still in it's pure form here on TL.
Ubersturmfuhrer
Profile Joined May 2008
Finland206 Posts
January 12 2012 10:53 GMT
#1050
On January 11 2012 07:08 Ermac wrote:
Am I the only one that remembers the last two* games of FvJ? Iirc Jaedong pretty much won them with 2 or 3 hatch muta + ling runbies. Not exactly the most classy way to win either, and pretty much the zerg equivalent - if you can call it that - to what Flash did to JD today.

Personally I enjoy quick and dirty games once in a while.

*Might not have been the last two games, but at least two of their last 4.


I agree, the only reason I enjoyed watching those previous FvJs was my favorite player winning. This one was almost identical to Flash vs SOo except opposite starting locations.
You will not be punished for your anger, you will be punished by your anger
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
January 12 2012 11:56 GMT
#1051
On January 12 2012 19:11 shaftofpleasure wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2012 17:19 red4ce wrote:
On January 12 2012 05:52 kamikami wrote:
On January 12 2012 04:55 Ermac wrote:
On January 12 2012 04:15 kamikami wrote:
On January 11 2012 13:44 kdgns wrote:
On January 11 2012 12:28 Xiphos wrote:
If Team 8 disband because of this, then I sure hope that all you KT fanboys out there are happy


come on losing to KT 3-0 is nothing to be ashamed of, look at Khan, they're still showing their face and their 0-3 loss didnt even have flash in it.


Lol, that proves KT is OP, now even KT fans admit it ^^.


Your "[insert random person/team/thing you dislike] is OP!!" antics are getting very old, very fast. Do everyone, including yourself, a favor and stop.

Calling players or teams OP in a game where player skill is everything that matters is beyond ridiculous btw. You're actually complimenting the players you're trying to belittle.


Why do you think I want to belittle the players ? They are progamers, they all get my respect. I only hate KT team, KT fans and the terran race lol. Also the guy I quoted managed to bash 2 teams and praised his own team in one sentence, he deserves the "OP" stuff )


Boxer. Oov. Midas. Fantasy

An SKT fan is the last person on earth who should be complaining about terran.


But you have like God.

you combine those 4 and all SKT have is a Cute Monkey Terrorist Emperor.

that sounds way more scary than God
Stork[gm]
KTF_CloaK
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1338 Posts
January 12 2012 18:56 GMT
#1052
Still no interview?
KT Rolster for the win!! Lee-Young-Ho hwaiting!!
Invictus
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Singapore2697 Posts
January 12 2012 19:47 GMT
#1053
team 8 continues to break my heart, if this goes on team 8 would definitely disband and other teams would have to pick up a bunch of players or see a bunch of talented players and considerably the greatest zerg in the run of BW retire from BW forever cause other teams don't have enough budget to support their salaries
Lee Jaedong Fighting!
sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2553 Posts
January 12 2012 19:51 GMT
#1054
I highly doubt Jaedong would retire. Just look at all his interview, the guy still want to play and be the best so badly.. I'm sure he would accept a lower salary.
Jaedong Fighting! | youtube.com/ZikGaming
Black[CAT]
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Malaysia2589 Posts
January 13 2012 06:29 GMT
#1055
I just made the banner into my wallpaper
Do you have a higher res version Hyde?
You mean ESPORTS isnt a synonym for SC2? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -Proud owner of a Filco Majestouch 2 with Cherry Blue Switches- BW or SC2? Why not both?
WaterTower
Profile Joined May 2011
France138 Posts
January 13 2012 08:49 GMT
#1056
I fear for the Dong.

But all dongs eventually become flaccid, even with practice.
KTF_CloaK
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1338 Posts
January 13 2012 17:28 GMT
#1057
Damn I really want an interview

ah well KT and Team 8 usually dont get an interview if the fans of the other team dont translate it..
KT Rolster for the win!! Lee-Young-Ho hwaiting!!
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
January 13 2012 18:03 GMT
#1058
On January 13 2012 15:29 Black[CAT] wrote:
I just made the banner into my wallpaper
Do you have a higher res version Hyde?

Unfortunately not, I can try to make it bigger (max size is probably 1200x800 or something like that). The problem is the pictures I use aren't very large in the first place, so it's hard to make bigger versions (although thanks to Ryo I now have access to slightly larger images. Why doesn't Ryo have a star yet?!).

I'll see what I can do and if it works out I'll send you a PM.
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
GhostOwl
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
766 Posts
January 14 2012 13:03 GMT
#1059
Jaedong : "Why doesn't fucking medics cost 75 minerals 50 gas like they do in SC2!?"

Flash: "Huehuehuehuehue"
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
January 14 2012 13:11 GMT
#1060
On January 14 2012 22:03 GhostOwl wrote:
Jaedong : "Why doesn't fucking medics cost 75 minerals 50 gas like they do in SC2!?"

Flash: "Huehuehuehuehue"

Better than medivacs.
Those have single handedly ruined all TvX matchups in SC2.
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