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Jragon
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1471 Posts
January 10 2012 12:12 GMT
#861
On January 10 2012 21:10 oBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 21:08 Scarecrow wrote:
Team 8 needs to sack its coach.

Ju or Han? Also, I don't agree. The players have to realize something for themselves, it won't matter who's coaching, and Ju/Han are probably better than many alternatives.


From what's been said, Ju's a legend. The essential's of coaching can't have changed since he was last around. I wonder what's going on at T8. I hope this start simply makes the coming of the dawn the brighter.
"Bisu is just too good." - Jaedong (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=218995) "Bisu hyung's play is just too good" - Flash (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=225861)
RJGooner
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2110 Posts
January 10 2012 12:13 GMT
#862
On January 10 2012 21:12 Mataru wrote:
Damn it GSL distracted me and I missed Flash vs. JD! Oh well english broadcast later today.


Not worth watching
#1 Jaehoon Fan! 김재훈 화팅!
Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-10 12:13:25
January 10 2012 12:13 GMT
#863
Didn't flash mentionned in an interview before his surgery that he had troubles playing because his wrist hurted too much ? Like now without the pain, there's just no way he can lose anymore no ?
brow
Profile Joined December 2011
Brazil14 Posts
January 10 2012 12:13 GMT
#864
oh god dong....
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51710 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-10 12:16:32
January 10 2012 12:14 GMT
#865
On January 10 2012 21:12 Jragon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 21:10 oBlade wrote:
On January 10 2012 21:08 Scarecrow wrote:
Team 8 needs to sack its coach.

Ju or Han? Also, I don't agree. The players have to realize something for themselves, it won't matter who's coaching, and Ju/Han are probably better than many alternatives.


From what's been said, Ju's a legend. The essential's of coaching can't have changed since he was last around. I wonder what's going on at T8. I hope this start simply makes the coming of the dawn the brighter.


just because a coach was a legend doesn't mean they are still good.
there's a reason why skt sacked him back in 08 and bought in coach park and new staff. his time was clearly done.

adding to that, he has like minimal game knowledge. doesn't help the rest of their coaching staff only consists of one coach (hwaseung's old coach).
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Jackle
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada859 Posts
January 10 2012 12:14 GMT
#866
On January 10 2012 21:12 MCDayC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 21:10 Fionn wrote:
On January 10 2012 21:09 4vvhiplash7 wrote:
On January 10 2012 21:07 Fionn wrote:
It's okay T8, you still have the honor of being the only team to beat Stats or Flash this year.

But it was also the only win for Sea this season.


I thought Flash hadn't lost a game yet?


Stats lost a game to Sea. Besides that, Stats/Flash haven't dropped a game.

Were you watching Code S and this at the same time?


They're talking about Round 1....Round 1 - KT Rolster vs Team 8
You called down the thunder, now reap the whirlwind.
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
January 10 2012 12:15 GMT
#867
SKT got their winner interview can we KT rolster get our's too ?
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
poisui
Profile Joined July 2011
1088 Posts
January 10 2012 12:15 GMT
#868
On January 10 2012 21:07 Fionn wrote:
It's okay T8, you still have the honor of being the only team to beat Stats or Flash this year.

But it was also the only win for Sea this season.

I know, right? If Sea hadn't beaten Stats, his win rate in the current proleague against protoss would be be 0%. Right now, it is about 14% (1 out of 7). I guess that is something to feel good about.
gngfn
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1726 Posts
January 10 2012 12:15 GMT
#869
On January 10 2012 21:13 Boonbag wrote:
Didn't flash mentionned in an interview before his surgery that he had troubles playing because his wrist hurted too much ? Like now without the pain, there's just no way he can lose anymore no ?

I think Flash definitely started modifying his strategies to accommodate his pain near the end. He was starting to fall back into the pattern of turtling early and counting on lategame management to win his games. A lot of people probably didn't notice because that's kind of the impression people have of standard Flash play, but God-mode Flash achieved that status by mixing in tons of early-game pressure and deadly timing attacks, and we're starting to see that again now that his arm is better.
29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5725 Posts
January 10 2012 12:16 GMT
#870
the gsl started before this. it's still going on.
4v4 is a battle of who has the better computer.
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
January 10 2012 12:16 GMT
#871
If only T8 would have taken HiyA instead of Jaehoon...
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
Tomken
Profile Joined January 2010
Norway1144 Posts
January 10 2012 12:17 GMT
#872
team8 practicing SC2....?
MBCGame HERO FIGHTING!!!~
RJGooner
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2110 Posts
January 10 2012 12:17 GMT
#873
On January 10 2012 21:15 poisui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 21:07 Fionn wrote:
It's okay T8, you still have the honor of being the only team to beat Stats or Flash this year.

But it was also the only win for Sea this season.

I know, right? If Sea hadn't beaten Stats, his win rate in the current proleague against protoss would be be 0%. Right now, it is about 14% (1 out of 7). I guess that is something to feel good about.


Why do you feel the need to be an asshole?
#1 Jaehoon Fan! 김재훈 화팅!
Archers_bane
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1338 Posts
January 10 2012 12:18 GMT
#874
Team 8 is the laughing stock of SPL, I bet the netizens over there make fun of their team name all the time
Starcraft's BW glory days have passed, RIP Jaedong's dominance - 2013...EDIT 2017: WE BACK BOYS
RJGooner
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2110 Posts
January 10 2012 12:19 GMT
#875
On January 10 2012 21:16 moopie wrote:
If only T8 would have taken HiyA instead of Jaehoon...


Jaehoon is 2-5 this proleague with 3 of those losses coming to Flash, Bisu, and Zero. I hardly think his play is the real problem
#1 Jaehoon Fan! 김재훈 화팅!
Tippereth
Profile Joined December 2009
United States252 Posts
January 10 2012 12:19 GMT
#876
On January 10 2012 21:15 gngfn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 21:13 Boonbag wrote:
Didn't flash mentionned in an interview before his surgery that he had troubles playing because his wrist hurted too much ? Like now without the pain, there's just no way he can lose anymore no ?

I think Flash definitely started modifying his strategies to accommodate his pain near the end. He was starting to fall back into the pattern of turtling early and counting on lategame management to win his games. A lot of people probably didn't notice because that's kind of the impression people have of standard Flash play, but God-mode Flash achieved that status by mixing in tons of early-game pressure and deadly timing attacks, and we're starting to see that again now that his arm is better.

Yeah, Flash's rise to #1 coincided with him developing that lethal early-game killer instinct. I don't see how anybody can say that Flash's recent play is abnormal.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
January 10 2012 12:19 GMT
#877
Yes, Flash is back at #1 in all ELO categories again. God 2.0 cannot be stopped.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
gngfn
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1726 Posts
January 10 2012 12:19 GMT
#878
On January 10 2012 21:10 oBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 21:08 Scarecrow wrote:
Team 8 needs to sack its coach.

Ju or Han? Also, I don't agree. The players have to realize something for themselves, it won't matter who's coaching, and Ju/Han are probably better than many alternatives.

I agree. People need to keep in mind that it's totally standard and expected for players switching teams to slump horribly for a few months. Every player on T8 switched teams to get there, and on top of that they have a small coaching staff, limited access to practice partners, and a roster that's pretty ill-suited to this season's maps. They need more time to settle in, not another big change in the form of a panicked coach replacement.

I wouldn't be opposed to Kespa bringing in a third coach both to work with players day-to-day and to be ready in the wings as a potential replacement if Ju Hoon can't make things work, though.
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
January 10 2012 12:19 GMT
#879
On January 10 2012 21:12 Jragon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 21:10 oBlade wrote:
On January 10 2012 21:08 Scarecrow wrote:
Team 8 needs to sack its coach.

Ju or Han? Also, I don't agree. The players have to realize something for themselves, it won't matter who's coaching, and Ju/Han are probably better than many alternatives.


From what's been said, Ju's a legend. The essential's of coaching can't have changed since he was last around. I wonder what's going on at T8. I hope this start simply makes the coming of the dawn the brighter.

He was a legend, I don't know if it's helping T8 now though, times do change. I feel like a coach needs to be in tune with their players, needs to know them inside out. Maybe he needs more time (they don't have that much time). But even then, they don't really have the support they need, they only have some support I feel. Other teams have dedicated staff to coach their players, and analyze things for them, T8 doesn't have that, it's all dependent on the players and the two coaches I think.

Something is definitely rotten at the T8 house, it's fucking heartbreaking, more so then SKT losing GF last year, and that's saying a lot for me.

JD, man...They need to rebuild him
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-10 18:56:29
January 10 2012 12:19 GMT
#880
On January 10 2012 21:17 Tomken wrote:
team8 practicing SC2....?


edit : lol so wrong i was
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