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L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
December 07 2011 09:15 GMT
#801
I'm telling you guys, and I've been saying this for a while: SK is one of the three best Zerg's out there. Only JD, effOrt, and to a lesser extend; hydra, compare.

I still can't believe I got him for 6 and effOrt for 5. That's just unfair.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
December 07 2011 09:15 GMT
#802
On December 07 2011 18:14 kdgns wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2011 18:12 ]343[ wrote:
wait, I didn't think soulkey was ever thaaaat far behind since he had so many bases.. but I'm chobo so what would I know


bogus was ahead on supply for a really long time, usually terran shouldnt have more supply than you because their units are so good, even supply usually means something bad. Soulkey responded nicely by abusing mobility using drops to delay the 2/1 push timing while he mass expanded, eventually swarming with a large late game army while terran starves


What... terran is ahead of supply vs zerg usually. If they are equal then zerg is winning.
N.geNuity
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States5112 Posts
December 07 2011 09:15 GMT
#803
aaaaw no classic (no highlighted hair)
iu, seungah, yura, taeyeon, hyosung, lizzy, suji, sojin, jia, ji eun, eunji, soya, younha, jiyeon, fiestar, sinb, jung myung hoon godtier. BW FOREVERR
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
December 07 2011 09:15 GMT
#804
HOLY SHIT DAT ARMORY SNIPE TIMING
WriterXiao8~~
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66363 Posts
December 07 2011 09:16 GMT
#805
man and those upgrades were close to finishing
POGGERS
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
December 07 2011 09:16 GMT
#806
On December 07 2011 18:15 L_Master wrote:
I'm telling you guys, and I've been saying this for a while: SK is one of the three best Zerg's out there. Only JD, effOrt, and to a lesser extend; hydra, compare.

I still can't believe I got him for 6 and effOrt for 5. That's just unfair.

Zero man, Zero.

That game made up for the stupid mirrors earlier.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-07 09:18:00
December 07 2011 09:16 GMT
#807
Holy balls.

I think that Bogus's decision to focus on the bottom left was the deciding factor. He was pushing the top right, but decided (there are a few possible reasons) to push the bottom left main instead of persisting at the top. Soulkey was able to defend the bottom right at spectacular cost to Bogus, and that was it. I don't think Bogus giving up on the top of the map was necessarily bad, but I do think that he shouldn't have committed so heavily to the SW. For a long time there, we saw tanks and vultures all over the map simultaneously. Bogus must have figured that he would need to settle in for the long haul and to do that he'd need the whole side of the map. His distribution of forces was so spectacular that allocating everything to busting up one ramp seemed like a huge blunder.

It's also worth noting that Bogus almost succeeded there in the bottom left. Soulkey was able to push him back perfectly every time it looked like curtains.

Such an ill game though. I'm so glad I didn't miss this.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
December 07 2011 09:16 GMT
#808
SK did what he had to do. Take the map and never look back. There are a number of things he could have done better to mind fuck me, but that was more than enough. Great performance by him overall.
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
December 07 2011 09:16 GMT
#809
Damn SK, nice. Hold after Hold after Hold.

And of course the commando Hunter Killer Hydras lol
MOTM | Stim.tv | TL Mafia | Fantasy Fighting! | SNSD
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
December 07 2011 09:16 GMT
#810
Ouch, upgrades were close to finishing. HUGE setback for Bogus for losing those armories.
WTFTerran
Profile Joined November 2011
Russian Federation286 Posts
December 07 2011 09:16 GMT
#811
it was amazing macro multitask TvZ
gg
bogus(((
Bogus, MKP, Bomber FTW!
Phyrigian
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
New Zealand1332 Posts
December 07 2011 09:17 GMT
#812
--- Nuked ---
hitthat
Profile Joined January 2010
Poland2345 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-07 09:17:23
December 07 2011 09:17 GMT
#813
Many mines and vults are a must while defending your forces against swarm and bogus forgot that. Lurkers got too easy way to get close to tanks with a swarm support.
Shameless BroodWar separatistic, elitist, fanaticaly devoted puritan fanboy.
mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4505 Posts
December 07 2011 09:17 GMT
#814
On December 07 2011 18:16 Nikon wrote:
Ouch, upgrades were close to finishing. HUGE setback for Bogus for losing those armories.

Considering that, the push seemed very impressive. Damn, Bogus, you sick. <3
WriterBrows somewhat high. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndFysO2JunE
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
December 07 2011 09:18 GMT
#815
On December 07 2011 18:17 hitthat wrote:
Many mines and vults are a must while defending your forces against swarm and bogus forgot that. Lurkers got too easy way to get close to tanks with a swarm support.


err SK still lost quite a lot man to mines. If anything I would have liked to see more mine pulls from SK to completely fuck Bogus' army.

He could have really abused that.
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
December 07 2011 09:18 GMT
#816
On December 07 2011 18:16 Holgerius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2011 18:15 L_Master wrote:
I'm telling you guys, and I've been saying this for a while: SK is one of the three best Zerg's out there. Only JD, effOrt, and to a lesser extend; hydra, compare.

I still can't believe I got him for 6 and effOrt for 5. That's just unfair.

Zero man, Zero.

That game made up for the stupid mirrors earlier.


ZerO, Personally I can't quite place him on that level. When he is good he is FUCKING GOOD; but then he goes and plays like he did against Stork (I mean who needs storm dodge right?).

If you really want to be a top player I think that consistency has to be there, and ZerO just doesn't seem to have that yet. He has to many mediocre/bad games.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
kdgns
Profile Joined May 2009
United States2427 Posts
December 07 2011 09:18 GMT
#817
On December 07 2011 18:15 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2011 18:14 kdgns wrote:
On December 07 2011 18:12 ]343[ wrote:
wait, I didn't think soulkey was ever thaaaat far behind since he had so many bases.. but I'm chobo so what would I know


bogus was ahead on supply for a really long time, usually terran shouldnt have more supply than you because their units are so good, even supply usually means something bad. Soulkey responded nicely by abusing mobility using drops to delay the 2/1 push timing while he mass expanded, eventually swarming with a large late game army while terran starves


?

Terran should almost always be ahead on supply otherwise it means they're behind.


well then, ignore my post completely cos im noob
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9174 Posts
December 07 2011 09:18 GMT
#818
On December 07 2011 18:16 thopol wrote:
Holy balls.

I think that Bogus's decision to focus on the bottom left was the deciding factor. He was pushing the top right, but decided (there are a few possible reasons) to push the bottom left main instead of persisting at the top. Soulkey was able to defend the bottom right at spectacular cost to Bogus, and that was it. I don't think Bogus giving up on the top of the map was necessarily bad, but I do think that he shouldn't have committed so heavily to the SW.

It was his only chance at securing another mining base (the nat) whilst pushing. The other base had already been mined a fair bit and would've taken longer to mine. The SW was also along the path of his freshest expansion so made sense in terms of defence too.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
December 07 2011 09:18 GMT
#819
I cant believe that soulkey didnt crack under the pressure and even counter attacked bogus, shit.
WriterXiao8~~
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
December 07 2011 09:19 GMT
#820
I think Bogus would've been better off opening bio and then doing the mech switch though.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
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