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_Quasar_
Profile Joined October 2010
Russian Federation4405 Posts
September 16 2011 16:22 GMT
#441
On September 17 2011 01:14 Golondrin wrote:
I would say it's just a pun, since that queen pic is from bohemian rhapsody and the song starts like "Is this real life or it is just Fantasy?"

Anyway this is real life, so GO JANGBI!!

This isn't, because there's no (T)Reality in the final

He is too unexperienced for that yet.
For the Swarm!!! Jaedong & Neo_G.Soulkey fan.
Klaca
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
318 Posts
September 16 2011 16:23 GMT
#442
On September 17 2011 01:08 _Quasar_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2011 01:02 miky_ardiente wrote:
On September 17 2011 00:49 Klaca wrote:
On September 16 2011 19:42 _Quasar_ wrote:
Please refer to this as "another completely unbiased hype picture"

[image loading]

hows the queen picture related to him


he defeated queen play, a counter to mech style by zerg players that was giving lot of trouble to terran players

eh...what?
yeah maybe he did neutralize some queens when playing Hydra, but that's not quite the reason why he won. Hydra didn't simply have enough queens and instead opted for another kind of army (which failed)

Agreed, hydras queen control just isnt good enough . that shit fantasy used wouldnt have worked against lategame experts like soulkey or zero
Black[CAT]
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Malaysia2589 Posts
September 16 2011 16:36 GMT
#443
The finals is in less than 24 hours! GO Fantasy!
You mean ESPORTS isnt a synonym for SC2? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -Proud owner of a Filco Majestouch 2 with Cherry Blue Switches- BW or SC2? Why not both?
_Quasar_
Profile Joined October 2010
Russian Federation4405 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-16 16:49:07
September 16 2011 16:46 GMT
#444
On September 17 2011 01:23 Klaca wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2011 01:08 _Quasar_ wrote:
On September 17 2011 01:02 miky_ardiente wrote:
On September 17 2011 00:49 Klaca wrote:
On September 16 2011 19:42 _Quasar_ wrote:
Please refer to this as "another completely unbiased hype picture"

[image loading]

hows the queen picture related to him


he defeated queen play, a counter to mech style by zerg players that was giving lot of trouble to terran players

eh...what?
yeah maybe he did neutralize some queens when playing Hydra, but that's not quite the reason why he won. Hydra didn't simply have enough queens and instead opted for another kind of army (which failed)

Agreed, hydras queen control just isnt good enough . that shit fantasy used wouldnt have worked against lategame experts like soulkey or zero

Or Jaedong

I remember game on Aztec this season... Those shittons of tanks and still not enough to break through Jaedong's defence and micro.

Hydra's multitasking sucks for the level of progamer. I remember set 2 vs. Flash @ Monte Cristo, where he lost so much stuff late in the game because of not being able to be everywhere in time. And set 4 vs. Fantasy @ La Mancha, where he managed to win the final fight of lurkers vs. marine/tank ball, but in the same time he lost his 3rd to small group of m&m... if not that he could probably be OK in this game.
For the Swarm!!! Jaedong & Neo_G.Soulkey fan.
Klaca
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
318 Posts
September 16 2011 17:00 GMT
#445
Yeah and its funny, he has 460 average apm. So what does he do with this insane apm? Where does it go
tedster
Profile Joined May 2009
984 Posts
September 16 2011 17:34 GMT
#446
finalssssss
the last wcs commissioner
infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
September 16 2011 17:36 GMT
#447
On September 17 2011 02:00 Klaca wrote:
Yeah and its funny, he has 460 average apm. So what does he do with this insane apm? Where does it go


It's like by.hero. Over 500 average yet he can only ZvP.
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
September 16 2011 17:41 GMT
#448
460apm he probably spent time on base management ?
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
September 16 2011 17:48 GMT
#449
i feel like this thread doesn't have enough hype posts. i'm pretty hyped.
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-16 17:51:38
September 16 2011 17:50 GMT
#450
On September 16 2011 17:36 Ryo wrote:
OGN commentator predictions:

Kim Carrier, TheMarine, GoRush: Fantasy
Um Jae Kyung: Jangbi

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=110431

Curse of Kim Carrier has been placed on Fantasy. GG man It's over. There are too many heavenly forces against Fantasy. May I add that also in this DES interview the YellOw God himself bestowed the Kong Curse on Fantasy.

Let me remind you guys again:

Fantasy:
- Kim Carrier Curse (whoever Kim Carrier predicts as the winner ends up losing like 95% of the time)
- Kong Curse (whoever YellOw predicts/wants as the winner ends up losing)

JangBi:
- Legend of the Fall (Protoss POWER UP)

Can't get enough of that JANGBANG. Fighting!
[TLMS] REBOOT
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11390 Posts
September 16 2011 17:52 GMT
#451
On September 17 2011 02:50 OpticalShot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2011 17:36 Ryo wrote:
OGN commentator predictions:

Kim Carrier, TheMarine, GoRush: Fantasy
Um Jae Kyung: Jangbi

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=110431

Curse of Kim Carrier has been placed on Fantasy. GG man It's over. There are too many heavenly forces against Fantasy. May I add that also in this DES interview the YellOw God himself bestowed the Kong Curse on Fantasy.

Let me remind you guys again:

Fantasy:
- Kim Carrier Curse (whoever Kim Carrier predicts as the winner ends up losing like 95% of the time. The ONE exception to this that I remember is Stork's Incruit 2008)
- Kong Curse (whoever YellOw predicts/wants as the winner ends up losing)

JangBi:
- Legend of the Fall (Protoss POWER UP)

Can't get enough of that JANGBANG. Fighting!

That wasn't the only time he was wrong.

See http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=110431
Moderator。◕‿◕。
TheGlassface
Profile Joined November 2010
United States612 Posts
September 16 2011 17:52 GMT
#452
I've got a festival all weekend and exams but ho-ho-hollllleeee sheeeeeeeit do I plan on vegging out hard to this finals ASAP

JANGBIIIIII!!!!
The mystery of life is not a problem to solve, but a reality to experience. **Hang in there STX fans!! Kal Hwaiting!**
_Quasar_
Profile Joined October 2010
Russian Federation4405 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-16 18:04:09
September 16 2011 17:57 GMT
#453
32) 2008 Incruit OSL
Prediction: Stork wins
Result: Stork wins

33) 2009 Batoo OSL
Predictions: (T)Leta wins this OSL.
Result: (T)Leta gets eliminated in Round of 16.

34) 2009 Bacchus OSL
Predictions: (Z)Jaedong wins this OSL
Result: (Z)Jaedong wins 3:0

35) 2009 EVER OSL
Predictions: (P)Movie wins 3:2.
Result: (T)Flash wins 3:1.

36) 2009 Nate MSL
Prediction: (Z)Jaedong beats (T)Flash in finals
Result: (Z)Jaedong defeats (T)Flash 3:1 in finals

37) 2010 Korean Air OSL Season 1
Predictions: (Z)EffOrt wins 3:1
Result: (Z)EffOrt wins 3:2 after being down 0:2.

38) 2010 Bacchus OSL
Prediction: (P)Stork wins this OSL
Result: (T)Fantasy beats (P)Stork 3-0


isn't that with the last predictions like 50% results... wtf "curse". -__-

exactly 50% if we count Korean Power Line MSL as 0.5 of correct answer xD
For the Swarm!!! Jaedong & Neo_G.Soulkey fan.
infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
September 16 2011 18:05 GMT
#454
Also i notice people talking about the last final, but i don't think it has any bearing on this. Stork played awfully, totally mindless. Fantasy countered Stork's own reaver counter to 1rax CC and Stork apparently isn't the kind of player to change on the fly and react to this like Jaedong did in their OSL final.

Jangbi, we've already seen, has good decision making and reactions (when he wants to at least). He's not going to play into a disadvantage 3 times in a row. And as pointed out, Fantasy has some of the worst decision making when things go a different way than planned. So i expect Jangbi to take the initiative and play aggressive rather than reactive, not playing into whatever pre-planned idea Fantasy is doing for the game. With Oov not around the biggest mistake that could potentially happen is recycling what he's done in the last final and other recent TvPs, or depending solely on 1rax CC.

I feel like 3-1 Jangbi could be on the cards, with 1 or maybe 2 games heavily aggressive proxy/bulldog play. I'd like him to come out first set and be bold enough to just proxy if it's 1rax CC, considering it's Pathfinder.
_Quasar_
Profile Joined October 2010
Russian Federation4405 Posts
September 16 2011 18:07 GMT
#455
On September 17 2011 03:05 infinity2k9 wrote:
Also i notice people talking about the last final, but i don't think it has any bearing on this. Stork played awfully, totally mindless. Fantasy countered Stork's own reaver counter to 1rax CC and Stork apparently isn't the kind of player to change on the fly and react to this like Jaedong did in their OSL final.

afair Jaedong didn't change his strategy too, he insisted on opening 2 hatch muta all 5 games, but he found the morale to break the flow of the match and come back
For the Swarm!!! Jaedong & Neo_G.Soulkey fan.
Ghoststrikes
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1356 Posts
September 16 2011 18:07 GMT
#456
As a relatively new member of TL (Sc2 era), this will be the first Brood War match I will watch live! I feel kind of excited to see what BW still has to offer, after all it helped create this amazing community!
Never say die
_Quasar_
Profile Joined October 2010
Russian Federation4405 Posts
September 16 2011 18:11 GMT
#457
On September 17 2011 03:07 Ghoststrikes wrote:
As a relatively new member of TL (Sc2 era), this will be the first Brood War match I will watch live! I feel kind of excited to see what BW still has to offer, after all it helped create this amazing community!

I started watching BW from an OSL final too (Flash vs. Jaedong @ Korean Air OSL 2), and this was epic! Hope you will be seeing the epic game too.
For the Swarm!!! Jaedong & Neo_G.Soulkey fan.
Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
September 16 2011 18:15 GMT
#458
Holy shit this thread is epic O____O
infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
September 16 2011 18:20 GMT
#459
On September 17 2011 03:07 _Quasar_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2011 03:05 infinity2k9 wrote:
Also i notice people talking about the last final, but i don't think it has any bearing on this. Stork played awfully, totally mindless. Fantasy countered Stork's own reaver counter to 1rax CC and Stork apparently isn't the kind of player to change on the fly and react to this like Jaedong did in their OSL final.

afair Jaedong didn't change his strategy too, he insisted on opening 2 hatch muta all 5 games, but he found the morale to break the flow of the match and come back


Well that's true he didn't change his core strategy. I guess he just adapted to deal with it with what he had, but the change over the course of the games was still clear with the drone/ling block on the vulture being the best moment. Stork didn't look like doing the same turn-around at all, be it morale or whatever. I guess EffOrt and Jaedong both show if things are not going well in a finals just Kwanro it.
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
September 16 2011 18:25 GMT
#460
I should be streaming :D
www.twitch.tv/grobyc27
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
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