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IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32278 Posts
June 20 2011 10:00 GMT
#301
On June 20 2011 18:55 tenacity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 18:53 Fenrax wrote:
On June 20 2011 18:50 Hellwitch wrote:
Send Flash on Icarus to get own by 2 Hatch mutas, then send Action on La Mancha to get destroyed by Mech... WTF is up with KT coaches seriously?


The coaches plans were good. Both players just failed executing them. I am sure the coach told Action to not LOSE TRACK of the opponents entire Mech force when it pushes out. I still don't know how that was possible. It is like a bad joke with slow people and slugs or something.


Actually, I think he was aware of those goliaths. There was just nothing he could have done at this point against 13 +1 armor gols :-o.


Weren't they +1 attack goliaths?
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Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-20 10:02:30
June 20 2011 10:00 GMT
#302
(P)Snow vs. (P)Stats. I predict reavers.
PvP on Neo Beltway
"I know that human beings and fish can coexist peacefully" -GWB ||
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
June 20 2011 10:01 GMT
#303
this should favor stats...

but it could go both ways
In the woods, there lurks..
_Quasar_
Profile Joined October 2010
Russian Federation4405 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-20 10:02:07
June 20 2011 10:01 GMT
#304
stats vs. snow

battle of the now-underperforming promising P players

LOL PVP @ BELTWAY :D
For the Swarm!!! Jaedong & Neo_G.Soulkey fan.
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5600 Posts
June 20 2011 10:01 GMT
#305
meh pvp :/ Still, Snowu fighting! If he beats stats KT is done.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
Black[CAT]
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Malaysia2589 Posts
June 20 2011 10:01 GMT
#306
Aha! A PvP!
You mean ESPORTS isnt a synonym for SC2? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -Proud owner of a Filco Majestouch 2 with Cherry Blue Switches- BW or SC2? Why not both?
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
June 20 2011 10:01 GMT
#307
On June 20 2011 19:00 IntoTheWow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 18:55 tenacity wrote:
On June 20 2011 18:53 Fenrax wrote:
On June 20 2011 18:50 Hellwitch wrote:
Send Flash on Icarus to get own by 2 Hatch mutas, then send Action on La Mancha to get destroyed by Mech... WTF is up with KT coaches seriously?


The coaches plans were good. Both players just failed executing them. I am sure the coach told Action to not LOSE TRACK of the opponents entire Mech force when it pushes out. I still don't know how that was possible. It is like a bad joke with slow people and slugs or something.


Actually, I think he was aware of those goliaths. There was just nothing he could have done at this point against 13 +1 armor gols :-o.


Weren't they +1 attack goliaths?


If they were he's dumb, you get +armor when you're fighting hydra/muta.
Remember Violet.
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11062 Posts
June 20 2011 10:02 GMT
#308
stats 11
snow 1
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
Sovetsky Soyuz
Profile Joined May 2011
Russian Federation905 Posts
June 20 2011 10:02 GMT
#309
snow vs stats <3
Pewt
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada201 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-20 10:02:55
June 20 2011 10:02 GMT
#310
On June 20 2011 19:01 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 19:00 IntoTheWow wrote:
On June 20 2011 18:55 tenacity wrote:
On June 20 2011 18:53 Fenrax wrote:
On June 20 2011 18:50 Hellwitch wrote:
Send Flash on Icarus to get own by 2 Hatch mutas, then send Action on La Mancha to get destroyed by Mech... WTF is up with KT coaches seriously?


The coaches plans were good. Both players just failed executing them. I am sure the coach told Action to not LOSE TRACK of the opponents entire Mech force when it pushes out. I still don't know how that was possible. It is like a bad joke with slow people and slugs or something.


Actually, I think he was aware of those goliaths. There was just nothing he could have done at this point against 13 +1 armor gols :-o.


Weren't they +1 attack goliaths?


If they were he's dumb, you get +armor when you're fighting hydra/muta.


They were definitely +1 armor.
X10A
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada9837 Posts
June 20 2011 10:02 GMT
#311
Snow purple at 1
Stats orange toss at 11
... FCKING COLOR SWITCH
Stats red
Snow yellow
CJ/T8 Fighting//#1 STX and Bisu anti <3//YES X10A is based off the Freedom Gundam
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32278 Posts
June 20 2011 10:03 GMT
#312
On June 20 2011 19:01 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 19:00 IntoTheWow wrote:
On June 20 2011 18:55 tenacity wrote:
On June 20 2011 18:53 Fenrax wrote:
On June 20 2011 18:50 Hellwitch wrote:
Send Flash on Icarus to get own by 2 Hatch mutas, then send Action on La Mancha to get destroyed by Mech... WTF is up with KT coaches seriously?


The coaches plans were good. Both players just failed executing them. I am sure the coach told Action to not LOSE TRACK of the opponents entire Mech force when it pushes out. I still don't know how that was possible. It is like a bad joke with slow people and slugs or something.


Actually, I think he was aware of those goliaths. There was just nothing he could have done at this point against 13 +1 armor gols :-o.


Weren't they +1 attack goliaths?


If they were he's dumb, you get +armor when you're fighting hydra/muta.


Yeah, that's why I remember. It seemed weird to me. If he had tanks, those should be the ones dishing out damage, goliaths should tank all the damage while the tanks do their job...
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Eun_Star
Profile Joined April 2010
United States322 Posts
June 20 2011 10:03 GMT
#313
Come on stats, don't let me down
Sovetsky Soyuz
Profile Joined May 2011
Russian Federation905 Posts
June 20 2011 10:03 GMT
#314
On June 20 2011 19:01 _Quasar_ wrote:
stats vs. snow

battle of the now-underperforming promising P players

LOL PVP @ BELTWAY :D

neo metagame LOL.
This may be something though! Mass gate units midmap epic battle everywhere
Motivate
Profile Joined June 2011
2860 Posts
June 20 2011 10:03 GMT
#315
why do they always do the colour switch?

it's not like red/yellow is easier to distinguish from purple/orange
_Quasar_
Profile Joined October 2010
Russian Federation4405 Posts
June 20 2011 10:03 GMT
#316
yeah, stats please win, I want longer match not just plain 4-0 -.-
For the Swarm!!! Jaedong & Neo_G.Soulkey fan.
_Quasar_
Profile Joined October 2010
Russian Federation4405 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-20 10:04:26
June 20 2011 10:04 GMT
#317
On June 20 2011 19:03 Sovetsky Soyuz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 19:01 _Quasar_ wrote:
stats vs. snow

battle of the now-underperforming promising P players

LOL PVP @ BELTWAY :D

Mass gate units midmap epic battle everywhere

its not BeSt vs. Reach :D
For the Swarm!!! Jaedong & Neo_G.Soulkey fan.
ketomai
Profile Joined June 2007
United States2789 Posts
June 20 2011 10:04 GMT
#318
On June 20 2011 19:00 gngfn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 18:55 ketomai wrote:
On June 20 2011 18:50 Hellwitch wrote:
Send Flash on Icarus to get own by 2 Hatch mutas, then send Action on La Mancha to get destroyed by Mech... WTF is up with KT coaches seriously?


I'd argue that sending Flash or JD on an "imba" map because you can bet on them finding a way to play it is pretty good for teams like KT. Gives the rest of your team a lot more flexibility and also probably throws off the opponent. Having a 50% chance of an even game versus Flash (so not very even) then a 50% chance of a slightly unfavorable position for the average joe but with Flash instead isn't so bad.

No, this is exactly wrong, especially for Flash in his current condition. Flash has been most dominant in Proleague when he's been able to set up shop on a map like Colosseum or Moon Glaive and give KT an almost 100% guaranteed win on that map. This also allows him to use his practice time effectively, since he only needs to prepare builds for one map. You want to use your best player in a way that boosts his effectiveness most over an arbitrary player you could send in his place. Flash is not a significantly better choice than other KT players on a map like Icarus to the extent that he is on a map like Beltway, especially when KT has no other good Terrans to send to abuse good T maps.


But that also makes you a little predictable. Anyone who faces KT is going to have a snipe flash plan and 2 backup snipe flash plans.

To me I just think Flash is on such a high level that he can beat many players with just fundamentals. To use him as a one map player/sniper when he can play any map relatively well and face any opponent on those maps pretty decently seems like a waste, especially if the rest of your team isn't superb as well. As for his slump, it's my opinion that he's not really in a slump, just losing multiple games in a row (it happens). Flash doesn't really "slump" in the sense that his play takes a nosedive, it's usually just losing to random shit.
kuroshiroi
Profile Joined November 2010
3149 Posts
June 20 2011 10:04 GMT
#319
On June 20 2011 19:03 Sovetsky Soyuz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 19:01 _Quasar_ wrote:
stats vs. snow

battle of the now-underperforming promising P players

LOL PVP @ BELTWAY :D

neo metagame LOL.
This may be something though! Mass gate units midmap epic battle everywhere

Or Snow just micros reavers like a boss. Either way sounds awesome
Fly Jaedong, fly!
X10A
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada9837 Posts
June 20 2011 10:05 GMT
#320
Not having a color switch is easier for a sleeply X10A
Stat's core is up sooner than Snow's
Both on 1 gate, and have a scout in the others base
CJ/T8 Fighting//#1 STX and Bisu anti <3//YES X10A is based off the Freedom Gundam
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