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Saturnize
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2473 Posts
June 12 2011 17:29 GMT
#3681
I can't believe i missed this... Been so busy lately.

All I can say is...The games were really boring and one sided -_-

Congrats Flash for being so dominant that your games are now boring as hell to watch :p
"Time to put the mustard on the hotdog. -_-"
agarangu
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile274 Posts
June 12 2011 17:50 GMT
#3682
If Jaedong had advanced the this finals would have been awesome as hell.
What's a quote anyway?
champignones
Profile Joined September 2008
Panama160 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-12 18:15:16
June 12 2011 18:15 GMT
#3683
i dont think it would have make a difference whether be jd or zero, flash was like in insane mode.
you shouldnt worry if everybody ignore you, you should be worry when they dont anymore.
PeterHuynh
Profile Joined June 2011
United States151 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-12 18:51:50
June 12 2011 18:47 GMT
#3684
On June 12 2011 23:12 WaterTower wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2011 11:45 PeterHuynh wrote:
What does it take to become at the level of flash at something im? 17 currently incoming college freshman and not knowing what i want to become, but i am and really inspired by all of his success so what does it take ? how is this guy the best at what he does


It is impossible to be like Flash without having a very strong, real talent and passion for the game, as well as 14 hour practice sessions daily. Then there's the real pressure to perform. It's not a game for these people, it's their job and it's very competitive. KT's coach is known to be brutal and he really treats his job as seriously as any national league Football or Basketball coach, and maybe even beyond that. Many Americans or Europeans might think its all for fun but the Korean progamers definitely dont feel that way.


thank you for taking your time replying with a real response, very well understood sir thanks
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moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
June 12 2011 18:48 GMT
#3685
On June 13 2011 03:15 champignones wrote:
i dont think it would have make a difference whether be jd or zero, flash was like in insane mode.

I agree with that sentiment. Flash was on fire.

Zero's play in games 1 and 2 should not be so heavily criticized, he did well. Shame he couldn't score a win or two, but its something to look forward to next time.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
Essbee
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada2371 Posts
June 12 2011 20:08 GMT
#3686
On June 13 2011 03:48 moopie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 03:15 champignones wrote:
i dont think it would have make a difference whether be jd or zero, flash was like in insane mode.

I agree with that sentiment. Flash was on fire.

Zero's play in games 1 and 2 should not be so heavily criticized, he did well. Shame he couldn't score a win or two, but its something to look forward to next time.


I somehow disagree with this. While Flash was outstanding, the experience of JD and his recent success against Flash would have made a different series. I still think that Flash would have a win but never 3-0 imo.
champignones
Profile Joined September 2008
Panama160 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-12 20:47:25
June 12 2011 20:46 GMT
#3687
i understand but people seem to discredit zero, he has an outstanding record against flash and is a monster at tvz, the same we can say about jaedong, he defeated recentlly flash in an espectacular fashion. but flash prepared insanely for the finals, no one would have pictured the BO he would choose for the finals, as well as the timing and dedication he prepare for it. i do agree jaedong would have take a few games from flash but even with all the mental fortitude he has in BO5 comparing it with zero, i believe we would see flash beating jd again in another final which would make people feel sad about it. i think zeros chance was a good one and refreshing to not see the same thing again. but the jvf final this time would have been for the tittle of the greatest and the golden badge, thing that will be more dramatic than the previous ones, perhaps history repeats itself in OSL.
you shouldnt worry if everybody ignore you, you should be worry when they dont anymore.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
June 12 2011 21:22 GMT
#3688
On June 11 2011 19:19 aimaimaim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2011 19:14 dukethegold wrote:
On June 11 2011 19:14 letian wrote:
On June 11 2011 19:13 Essbee wrote:
That final was still a mile better than any sc2 game.

lol


That proves he doesn't follow SC2. MLG Columbus was the epitome of what E-sport could be.


[image loading]

If MLG can beat this then ..


How many people is that?
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Finale
Profile Joined December 2010
249 Posts
June 12 2011 21:55 GMT
#3689
[image loading]

VODs have been added. Thanks to moktira.
jjhchsc2
Profile Joined December 2010
Korea (South)2393 Posts
June 13 2011 01:43 GMT
#3690
Rofl anyone still remember that game where flash went valkonic against 3 hatch lurkers and still won?
Lee Ssang/ Lee Shin/ Kim Jung Woo/ Kim Min Chul/Jun Tae Yang/Park Soo Ho/Lee Jung Hoon/Choi Sung Hoon/ Moon Sung Won/Park Ji Soo/ Lee Ho Joon/ Jang Min Chul/ Kim Seung Chul/SaSe/IdrA/Ret Fighting! BW4Life
Tenhou
Profile Joined April 2011
1052 Posts
June 13 2011 01:46 GMT
#3691
On June 13 2011 10:43 jjhchsc2 wrote:
Rofl anyone still remember that game where flash went valkonic against 3 hatch lurkers and still won?


The game vs kwanro? 3 base vs 7 base zerg?
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-13 02:21:50
June 13 2011 02:07 GMT
#3692
That was partly attributed to Kwanro using ultralisks as minesweepers, though.

Harem tells me to add this.
[image loading]
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
akomatic
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
156 Posts
June 13 2011 02:34 GMT
#3693
On June 13 2011 11:07 flamewheel wrote:
That was partly attributed to Kwanro using ultralisks as minesweepers, though.

Harem tells me to add this.
[image loading]


I feel like that game single-handedly ruined Kwanro's drive to be a progamer.

Regarding the finals, I was again awestruck by Flash's preparation and execution. He has the self-control to destroy his own appendages for victory. How can anybody compete with that?
..Bears!
Balfazar
Profile Joined November 2008
Australia483 Posts
June 13 2011 04:16 GMT
#3694
On June 13 2011 01:06 shalafi wrote:
This is the first MSL/OSL finals I haven't watched in 3 years (Well, it was only the third I couldn't watch live). It was just too obvious what was going to happen. I checked the spoilers game by game just to make sure; If I saw Zero winning even one game, I would have watched the series, but I knew the chances of that happening were close to zero.

I'm sure there were some entertaining plays, but knowing the result beforehand makes it unworthy of my time during finals.

I hope the next individual league finals aren't as one-sided.


I did the same thing, spoiled myself game by game looking for signs of a compelling series and didn't find any. I much preferred the scene from 2~ years ago where you had 5-6 players all around the same level. These days any game with Flash lacks drama and excitement for me.
Finale
Profile Joined December 2010
249 Posts
June 13 2011 04:44 GMT
#3695
Winner interview added. Thanks to white_horse for the translation.
hauton
Profile Joined March 2009
Hong Kong743 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-13 08:07:42
June 13 2011 08:02 GMT
#3696
Brief comments as I watch the VODs:

Game 1 - did nobody notice how Flash responded to the muta/scourge counterattack on his main? His initial valk escaped, but he returned her to eat the scourges, leaving Zero with no scourges when his 2 oncoming valks arrived.

I really didn't like Zero's decision to rush 4Hive when he got so lucky with the ling runby scout - the instinctual response to a scout like that revealing your build would be to commit before your opponent can respond (hydra den, whatever) and Zero completely played into Flash's hands. Especially given that he already had speedlings, he would've been much better off going with scourges and lings to stall an immediate sunken wall at his 3rd before slowly transitioning to hivetech.

Game 2 - vulture harassing like a god. Game 1 valkonic, game 2 vulture harass - is this God Mode Fantasy?
keep it up, youll either be famous or homeless one day
JMave
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Singapore1806 Posts
June 13 2011 08:55 GMT
#3697
What was most strange in game 2 to me was during all the lurker to MnM encounters, Flash didn't bother to scan and engage but instead backed off when lurkers burrowed.
火心 Jealous. I always loved that feeling when I was young. Embrace it.
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
June 13 2011 09:00 GMT
#3698
On June 13 2011 17:55 JMave wrote:
What was most strange in game 2 to me was during all the lurker to MnM encounters, Flash didn't bother to scan and engage but instead backed off when lurkers burrowed.

Not sure specifically what moments you mean, but bear in mind that engaging lurkers when mutas are overhead is extremely dangerous. Flash was able to engage Hydra's lurks head-on because he'd already whittled down the muta count, but Zero kept a strong muta flock present. Marines forming a line to attack lurks are just asking to get sniped by mutas from the sides.
May the BeSt man win.
hauton
Profile Joined March 2009
Hong Kong743 Posts
June 13 2011 10:07 GMT
#3699
Flash spent a TON of scans looking for ninja expos constantly.
keep it up, youll either be famous or homeless one day
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
June 13 2011 12:06 GMT
#3700
On June 13 2011 11:07 flamewheel wrote:
That was partly attributed to Kwanro using ultralisks as minesweepers, though.

Harem tells me to add this.
[image loading]


Woah, this thread is giving me deja vu.
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