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GG.NoRe
Korea (South)1051 Posts
![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/T9Ytv.jpg) ABC Mart MSL Round of 16 Day 2 Saturday, 30 April 2011 | 08:00 GMT (+00:00) (10:00 CEST | 04:00 EDT | 01:00 PDT)  Leta <Dante's Peak SE>  Neo.G_SoulkeyReally <Dante's Peak SE> FlashZerO <Circuit Breaker> hero Grape <Circuit Breaker> Horang2![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/CjOnR.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/oX6v4.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/qsj5h.jpg) + Show Spoiler [Spoiler Free] + ![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/dyMgK.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/6GDJ7.jpg) | ||
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Irratonalys
Germany902 Posts
*insert mindless fanboyismn* !!!!!!!!!!! | ||
flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
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hns
Germany609 Posts
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GG.NoRe
Korea (South)1051 Posts
On April 29 2011 19:22 hns wrote: "Thursday April 30" should be saturday, I guess. Otherwise, very cool graphics. :D Thanks. That's what happens when you copy from other people's work... kk  | ||
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_Quasar_
Russian Federation4405 Posts
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xarthaz
1704 Posts
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Ryo
8787 Posts
Grape and Flash fighting! | ||
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writer22816
United States5775 Posts
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GG.NoRe
Korea (South)1051 Posts
On April 29 2011 20:02 writer22816 wrote: Very cute, love the mspaint work! Nooooo... It took me 3 hours to Photoshop this!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO... + Show Spoiler + :p | ||
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shucklesors
Singapore1176 Posts
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
Flash over Really, Really is a good player but it is Flash, and it is TvT. ZerO over hero, although ZvZ is generally a coinflip I fully expect ZerO to take though, he has decent ZvZ(HIVETECH+ENSNARE PL0X) Lastly, Horang2 over Grape, I mean Grape is pretty good but Horang2 is a PvP expert. | ||
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zerious
Canada3803 Posts
Really < Flash Zero > Hero Grape < Horang | ||
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nozaro33
Taiwan1819 Posts
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Katsuge
Singapore7730 Posts
EE YOUNGHO FIGHTING! hope that grape and leta can make it | ||
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sinistral
Singapore859 Posts
Flash Zero Horang2 | ||
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maybenexttime
Poland5560 Posts
SK (though I'd be happy with either one of them winning) Flash ZerO Horang2 | ||
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SweetAs
New Zealand290 Posts
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danl9rm
United States3111 Posts
C'monnnnnn Flash. Make it to Jaedong  | ||
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okum
France5778 Posts
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Velocity`
United Kingdom343 Posts
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OopsOopsBaby
Singapore3425 Posts
On April 29 2011 22:23 danl9rm wrote: These banners are so cool in a daycare sort of way. I approve. C'monnnnnn Flash. Make it to Jaedong well its abc. | ||
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gen.Sun
United States539 Posts
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red4ce
United States7313 Posts
Flash Zero Horang2 | ||
Elyvilon
United States13143 Posts
On April 29 2011 20:17 GG.NoRe wrote: Nooooo... It took me 3 hours to Photoshop this!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO... + Show Spoiler + :p I knew it was photoshop, I could tell by the pixels. | ||
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Deletrious
United States458 Posts
I hope Leta Soulkey doesn't overlap with Julyzerg playing SC2 | ||
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
zero leta/soulkey this is going to own so heavily. shame about that flash tvt but what can you do | ||
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Weemoed
Netherlands741 Posts
![[image loading]](http://www.fomos.kr/board/issue/1256890322_2.jpg) | ||
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GG.NoRe
Korea (South)1051 Posts
On April 30 2011 00:42 sixfour wrote: horang2 pvp zero leta/soulkey this is going to own so heavily. shame about that flash tvt but what can you do its really not as forgone as we think. remember ssak and classic :p | ||
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moopie
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pinkranger15
Philippines1597 Posts
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Rhaegar99
Australia1190 Posts
 at least a protoss will make it | ||
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Selth
United States469 Posts
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Gara
Canada435 Posts
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Yxes2211
United States1587 Posts
Its not that i don't like SK, its just Leta is the definition of bad ass | ||
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~ava
Canada378 Posts
Leta progress; even though I don't think he is really deserving based on his form. I'll watch the Flash game just in case of an upset, but I fully expect a quick domination. | ||
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vectorix108
United States4633 Posts
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_Quasar_
Russian Federation4405 Posts
Zero Flash Grape | ||
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Djabanete
United States2786 Posts
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J1.au
Australia3596 Posts
On April 30 2011 01:01 Weemoed wrote: Go Flash and Soulkey! Flash is so cute! | ||
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]343[
United States10328 Posts
On April 29 2011 22:59 okum wrote: I have an issue with these banners. The jpg compression blur makes them look unprofessional. Please use png. png is kind of big though :/ very cute banners though ^^ | ||
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TheGlassface
United States612 Posts
So, am I correct in the fact that we're down to either Grape or Horang2 for the only Protoss left? | ||
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Irratonalys
Germany902 Posts
So, am I correct in the fact that we're down to either Grape or Horang2 for the only Protoss left? no , there is stork.....but since he will lose to hydra, jea , your correct | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
Go FlaSh! | ||
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GG.NoRe
Korea (South)1051 Posts
On April 30 2011 03:34 arb wrote: These banners are adorable! Go FlaSh! @arb and all others who like banner, thanks a lot. It took me 5 hours on Photoshop, I'm glad you like it!+ Show Spoiler + kk :p | ||
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okum
France5778 Posts
On April 30 2011 03:29 ]343[ wrote: png is kind of big though :/ very cute banners though ^^ Not for graphics like this. In fact pngs are likely to be much smaller. | ||
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XenOsky
Chile2272 Posts
after watching jd vs reality, im really hyped about leta vs sk... | ||
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
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maybenexttime
Poland5560 Posts
On April 30 2011 06:33 On_Slaught wrote: Really will call upon the spirit of Upmagic to beat Flash. Heard it here first. Please, not another match fixing scandal. T___T j/k UpMagiC <3 | ||
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Deekin[
Serbia1713 Posts
Btw I think Flash will win.. and not lose.. dont know why though | ||
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Weemoed
Netherlands741 Posts
<3 I can't sleep; to afraid I miss it ;_; | ||
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Yxes2211
United States1587 Posts
On April 30 2011 07:20 Deekin[ wrote: Always the Queen hype!! :D Btw I think Flash will win.. and not lose.. dont know why though Could Flash's 2011 TvT stats be the reason? | ||
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exterminatus
Korea (North)142 Posts
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Deekin[
Serbia1713 Posts
lol | ||
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Turgid
United States1623 Posts
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a7choi
United States1664 Posts
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FlaShFTW
United States10163 Posts
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Amnesia
United States3818 Posts
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tedster
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tedster
984 Posts
On April 30 2011 08:04 Turgid wrote: Leta bust out Soulkey Terran please! gogogo lol nice | ||
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soujiro_
Uruguay5195 Posts
rooting for leta expecting terran unorthodox strategies then i probably go to bed | ||
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radialis
726 Posts
On April 30 2011 02:27 Yxes2211 wrote: Leta beat SK D: Its not that i don't like SK, its just Leta is the definition of bad ass traitor... and you call yourself a zerg fan leta has had his chance to advance in the individual leagues and has never failed to disappoint. now it's soulkey's turn. his zvt is a pleasure to watch and the way he handles mech is amazing. grape, flash, soulkey, zero pls | ||
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Mereel
Germany895 Posts
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Yxes2211
United States1587 Posts
On April 30 2011 10:48 radialis wrote: traitor... and you call yourself a zerg fan leta has had his chance to advance in the individual leagues and has never failed to disappoint. now it's soulkey's turn. his zvt is a pleasure to watch and the way he handles mech is amazing. grape, flash, soulkey, zero pls Pssh, can't believe your not supporting one of the funniest players in BW But its not like I'll be bummed if SK advances. Hopefully he'd end up on Flash's Bracket so we can see some damn epic TvZ But shame shame... everyone should love Leta | ||
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GoTuNk!
Chile4591 Posts
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Gara
Canada435 Posts
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Treadmill
Canada2833 Posts
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50123 Posts
On April 30 2011 03:31 TheGlassface wrote: + Show Spoiler + So, am I correct in the fact that we're down to either Grape or Horang2 for the only Protoss left? uhhh stork is still there... | ||
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EchelonTee
United States5245 Posts
didn't stork get owned by hydra. also, go T's, Leta and Flash :D but I think Leta will probably lose.. | ||
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pred470r
Bulgaria3265 Posts
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maybenexttime
Poland5560 Posts
On April 30 2011 15:38 EchelonTee wrote: didn't stork get owned by hydra. also, go T's, Leta and Flash :D but I think Leta will probably lose.. Stork got owned by his own idiocy. He's not gonna fall for it again. | ||
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Hyde
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X10A
Canada9837 Posts
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
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Weemoed
Netherlands741 Posts
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phosphorylation
United States2935 Posts
live up to expectations plz | ||
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structuralinertia
Australia1426 Posts
On April 30 2011 15:38 EchelonTee wrote: didn't stork get owned by hydra. also, go T's, Leta and Flash :D but I think Leta will probably lose.. its a bo3, and stork/hydra have only played the first match... | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
On April 30 2011 15:49 maybenexttime wrote: Stork got owned by his own idiocy. He's not gonna fall for it again. Stork falls for things over and over again...all his opponents have to do is the exact opposite of what they won with before. | ||
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
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alypse
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Legatus Lanius
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Weemoed
Netherlands741 Posts
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trexbqs
Malaysia1731 Posts
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xarthaz
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On April 30 2011 04:30 okum wrote: Not for graphics like this. In fact pngs are likely to be much smaller. And gifs the smallest... really man, gifs is the only way to go if you want crisp image quality and small image size, while having less than 256 colors used. | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
On April 30 2011 17:01 alypse wrote: It feels like forever since the last time I watched Flash play a BoX... It has been forever. | ||
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Zona
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50123 Posts
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rebdomine
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
I like both these guys, but if I have to choose one then I'll root for Leta. | ||
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_Quasar_
Russian Federation4405 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
A fitting place to battle. Leta the terran at 10.5 Soulkey the zerg at 2 | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
On April 30 2011 17:09 Holgerius wrote: Really hope this lives up to the expectations. I like both these guys, but if I have to choose one then I'll root for Leta. why does one have to choose? If you don't have anyone you want to win in a game you can enjoy it even more. | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
2 drones heading out, 12hatch + dronscout | ||
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_Quasar_
Russian Federation4405 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
drone arrives in Leta's main, sees rax and no geyser pool morphing in the main | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
SK responds with a 3rd hatch in his main | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
his scv heads into SK's main again one ling lost to the marines in the bunker Leta takes his main gas - I hope he goes wraiths! | ||
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GG.NoRe
Korea (South)1051 Posts
Roll call: OP - Present! (late) GTR - Present! Fanboys - Present! Haters - Present! Queen lovers - FUCKING PRESENT!!! Everyone else - Present!!! LETS DO THIS!!! | ||
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
IT'S MY CAKEDAY, I DEMAND QUEENS | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
Leta adding a 2nd rax...so no wraith build Wow did Leta net 3 ling kills chasing SK's lings away? Academy done | ||
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Weemoed
Netherlands741 Posts
On April 30 2011 17:14 sixfour wrote: GOGOGO SOULKEY IT'S MY CAKEDAY, I DEMAND QUEENS Happy birthday | ||
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Mortician
Bulgaria2332 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
one creep at SK's nat lings have speed, finish off a wandering SCV, spire on the way | ||
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Zona
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jjhchsc2
Korea (South)2393 Posts
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_Quasar_
Russian Federation4405 Posts
builds an obligatory dozen++ of lings to deal with early pressure and to assist mutas | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
spire done, quite a few larva was saved | ||
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_Quasar_
Russian Federation4405 Posts
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_Quasar_
Russian Federation4405 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
Mutas are out! mutaling gathering outside Leta's nat Leta with 4 turrets and a bunker there Leta burns a scan to help his turrets spot as Mutas raid his nat mineral line | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
Leta adding control tower and facility, starts moving out with his mnm kills 2 mutas with one stim! SK adding 2 more creeps at his nat | ||
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alypse
2771 Posts
can SK defend this? | ||
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_Quasar_
Russian Federation4405 Posts
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GG.NoRe
Korea (South)1051 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
only one lurker morphing at SK's 3rd it burrows on top of the ramp If leta doesn't deal damage... what a waste! | ||
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_Quasar_
Russian Federation4405 Posts
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GG.NoRe
Korea (South)1051 Posts
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Mortician
Bulgaria2332 Posts
On April 30 2011 17:19 GG.NoRe wrote: Did leto go SK? No, he is doing anti-queen build, make tanks with MnM support | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
first vessel and 2 tanks heading out, meet Leta's mnm midmap SK loses another muta Leta's forces beelining towards SK's 3rd | ||
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
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_Quasar_
Russian Federation4405 Posts
On April 30 2011 17:19 GG.NoRe wrote: First manifest of TvZ adapting to recent Queen vs mech Flash: "I think we should play bio" lol :D | ||
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tanngard
Norway1325 Posts
he wants to take out SK's 4 o'clock | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
Leta's forces at 4, 3 lurkers hold the ramp, mutaling approaching from behind lurkers give ground as 2 tanks siege up to shell 2 sunkens ready there, a 3rd being added | ||
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Elroi
Sweden5595 Posts
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_Quasar_
Russian Federation4405 Posts
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GG.NoRe
Korea (South)1051 Posts
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_Quasar_
Russian Federation4405 Posts
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Weemoed
Netherlands741 Posts
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alypse
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mutas kill all tanks! | ||
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GG.NoRe
Korea (South)1051 Posts
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_Quasar_
Russian Federation4405 Posts
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
mnm rushing the sunkens! mutas take a lot of damage! Leta going to crush SK's 3rd? but the nydus completes and lurkerling arrive! consume finishes and a defiler appears from nydus - leta heads behind the mineral line instead! | ||
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GG.NoRe
Korea (South)1051 Posts
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BoldMan
United States168 Posts
Zero to Hero lol | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
Leta adding a 2nd and 3rd factory still wants to mech switch vs SK? | ||
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_Quasar_
Russian Federation4405 Posts
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GG.NoRe
Korea (South)1051 Posts
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Mortician
Bulgaria2332 Posts
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salito
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_Quasar_
Russian Federation4405 Posts
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
On April 30 2011 17:11 Zona wrote: why does one have to choose? If you don't have anyone you want to win in a game you can enjoy it even more. I don't really work that way. I always pick a side. | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
Leta's 3rd lands at inner 10.5 and starts operation mines done for leta, vultures start pooping their explosive payloads around the map | ||
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_Quasar_
Russian Federation4405 Posts
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
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_Quasar_
Russian Federation4405 Posts
On April 30 2011 17:23 Holgerius wrote: I don't really work that way. I always pick a side. and what side have you picked now? | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
2nd evo chamber placed plenty of mines placed outside 4, SK taking his 4th at 4 proper Leta now adding his 5th and 6th facts? or 6th and 7th | ||
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
sense it please and then broodling everything | ||
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Emon_
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Lucumo
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Zona
40426 Posts
SK with a bunch of lings streaming around the map now lurkers follow up with most mines defused 3 lurkers/defiler all irradiated right away by 4 vessels, that puts a damper on that attack Leta with a timing attack of sorts with 5 tanks, mnm, 4 vessels, and some vultures at SK's nat | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
Leta. :D | ||
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_Quasar_
Russian Federation4405 Posts
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Russian Federation4405 Posts
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Mortician
Bulgaria2332 Posts
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Elroi
Sweden5595 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
Leta adding his 10th factory? 1 vessel scourged for free swarm/lurkerling driving Leta's attack farther and farther away from SK's nat vessels head out to irradiate another lurker/defiler combo swarm/lings pushing Leta halfway back to his own part of the map, SK now with triple evo | ||
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_Quasar_
Russian Federation4405 Posts
On April 30 2011 17:26 _Quasar_ wrote: sk needs additional base asap... or kill letas 4th... this is not even. looks like he's aiming for the latter... even puts up additional hatcheries.. | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
On April 30 2011 17:26 Mortician wrote: wouldn't mutas work well in this situation? Irradiate. | ||
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Vasoline73
United States7801 Posts
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Quarz
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Zona
40426 Posts
On April 30 2011 17:26 Elroi wrote: Awesome play from Leta. awesome? he's losing the initiative lurkerling with swarm attacking Leta's 4th, a few tanks there trying to hold but it won't do mnm/vulture taking out hero's morphing 5th at 6, though Leta with a few tanks and vultures sieging up outside 4 there's a single red lurker with 8 kills in the middle of the map with leta's units still wandering over it | ||
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HopLight
Sweden999 Posts
On April 30 2011 17:27 Vasoline73 wrote: Amazing defense from Soulkey wow. Thought he was dead a minute ago Yeah, the Dark Swarms are some of the best I've seen | ||
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GG.NoRe
Korea (South)1051 Posts
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_Quasar_
Russian Federation4405 Posts
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
swarm/lurkerling countering Leta's attack outside 4, while a goliath heavy force backs away from swarm/lings outside SK's nat but leta mass expanding now, with CC's at inner 7.5 and 7 | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
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_Quasar_
Russian Federation4405 Posts
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
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noojOh
United States755 Posts
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_Quasar_
Russian Federation4405 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
Leta's tank/vulture (and a few goliaths) force creeping closer to 4 again, SK using swarm/mostly hydra to counter but it doesn't work too well! a plague on a bunch of metal, but Leta actually looks strong now | ||
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Legatus Lanius
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jjhchsc2
Korea (South)2393 Posts
it's 4 base vs 4 base. | ||
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_Quasar_
Russian Federation4405 Posts
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
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_Quasar_
Russian Federation4405 Posts
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_Quasar_
Russian Federation4405 Posts
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Itachii
Poland12466 Posts
and like 1 SV is out, this will cost him the game probably | ||
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tabula rasa
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MountainDewJunkie
United States10341 Posts
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_Quasar_
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Zona
40426 Posts
but is he stockpiling something? lings find the new CC at 7, and it lifts a small group of remaining mnm annihilated by a handful of cracklings lurker/hydra with swarm whittling down more of leta's attack outside 4 and swarms appear in front of the tanks outside SK's nat but all the units die! goliaths moving forwards to engage the sunkens! SK fully clears out the attack on 4, first ultra spotted, does it have full armor? | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
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_Quasar_
Russian Federation4405 Posts
but if he doesnt....... | ||
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TRAP[yoo]
Hungary6026 Posts
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Vasoline73
United States7801 Posts
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
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MountainDewJunkie
United States10341 Posts
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Itachii
Poland12466 Posts
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
22 kill lurker at 7! mostly scvs that were transferred, perhaps? new CC building at 9 spotted/stopped? by lings speed ovies heading out in small groups - probably loaded? | ||
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Disregard
China10252 Posts
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
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_Quasar_
Russian Federation4405 Posts
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Weemoed
Netherlands741 Posts
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GG.NoRe
Korea (South)1051 Posts
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salito
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Zona
40426 Posts
Leta also has 12 running massive amounts of mines really stopping SK's attempt to break out of his nat 3 vultures try to raid 4, Leta's controlling them carefully and does net a few drones SK looks just slightly resigned | ||
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MountainDewJunkie
United States10341 Posts
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phosphorylation
United States2935 Posts
its like the bst of the hollywood movie | ||
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kamikami
France1057 Posts
and why terran setting a contain and do nothing ? | ||
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Disregard
China10252 Posts
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
and gg's as i type that :-( | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
mass mines stop a ling attack on inner 7.5 but more ultraling come! Leta breaks into SK's nat with metal and SK concedes! no queens? | ||
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Release
United States4397 Posts
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Weemoed
Netherlands741 Posts
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Disregard
China10252 Posts
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Sillylaughs
Canada198 Posts
what an odd game | ||
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MountainDewJunkie
United States10341 Posts
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jjhchsc2
Korea (South)2393 Posts
Wow mech. | ||
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Kanil
United States1713 Posts
Fantastic game. | ||
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Vasoline73
United States7801 Posts
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_Quasar_
Russian Federation4405 Posts
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okum
France5778 Posts
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
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Weemoed
Netherlands741 Posts
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Zona
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Itachii
Poland12466 Posts
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Emon_
3925 Posts
Let's go Ro8 LETA! | ||
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Djagulingu
Germany3605 Posts
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GG.NoRe
Korea (South)1051 Posts
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Lucumo
6850 Posts
Sucks that I have Leta on my anti. Hope he won't play that well in PL :/ | ||
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Yxes2211
United States1587 Posts
Didn't really care who won, but was a little in favor of Leta Love watching aggressive terran! | ||
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DMXD
United States4064 Posts
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radialis
726 Posts
On April 30 2011 17:35 _Quasar_ wrote: what. That was kind of sudden gg... i think SK invested a lot into the attack on 8... leta was pushing 1 at the same time cool game even though sk lost | ||
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phosphorylation
United States2935 Posts
although i am terran player, i root for the zerg for games like this | ||
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Release
United States4397 Posts
On April 30 2011 17:35 _Quasar_ wrote: what. That was kind of sudden gg... SK had been contained for a while now. The 3 ultra drop was nowhere near enough to stop a base | ||
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hauton
Hong Kong743 Posts
I would've liked to see Leta attempt some drops, but he was content to play it safe and maintain his contain, which in the end, proved very effective. Counter to Dark Swarm? 300 000 mines. | ||
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KobraKay
Portugal4231 Posts
But it was a nice game and Im still happy for Leta so no problem :D Whats the song playing now? tks! | ||
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Russian Federation4405 Posts
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prototype.
Canada4202 Posts
On April 30 2011 17:36 radialis wrote: i think SK invested a lot into the attack on 8... leta was pushing 1 at the same time cool game even though sk lost So you want soulkey to continue defending the rest of the game? | ||
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United States620 Posts
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Rodiel3
France1158 Posts
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GG.NoRe
Korea (South)1051 Posts
Do better next match ok? ![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/eJQa4.jpg) | ||
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United States10341 Posts
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Netherlands2748 Posts
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alypse
2771 Posts
Good game by Leta. Disappointed for not seeing any Queen action | ||
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Russian Federation4405 Posts
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radialis
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i really like both. | ||
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bearbuddy
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pylonsalad
Canada649 Posts
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Turbovolver
Australia2394 Posts
I think that's what separates this game from a lot of other mech transition TvZ's, in that it let Leta estabilsh his 3rd and 4th bases a lot easier. | ||
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hauton
Hong Kong743 Posts
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Yxes2211
United States1587 Posts
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
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Lucumo
6850 Posts
On April 30 2011 17:42 hauton wrote: LMAO was EVERY single one of these highlights from the Group of Death? 5/1 wasn't. But group of death was 1-5 with 5 featuring two games, Shine vs Reality and Flash vs Bisu(1). | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
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_Quasar_
Russian Federation4405 Posts
On April 30 2011 17:41 pylonsalad wrote: SK lost this game at the muta stage. I don't think it was a great game. Just a slow predictable strangle once the mutas didn't do any damage or slow down the first big push. Leta had too big an advantage too early for SK to come back. Couldn't he come back by destroying those 8 o'clock base(s) in the stage of construction or shortly after...? O_o I think that really killed him. Since the beginning of mech transition his units were a lot more cost effective. | ||
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MountainDewJunkie
United States10341 Posts
On April 30 2011 17:46 _Quasar_ wrote: Couldn't he come back by destroying those 8 o'clock base(s) in the stage of construction or shortly after...? O_o I think that really killed him. Since the beginning of mech transition his units were a lot more cost effective. I'm pretty sure you can trust a progamer such as Soulkey to know when he's licked. | ||
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_Quasar_
Russian Federation4405 Posts
On April 30 2011 17:47 MountainDewJunkie wrote: I'm pretty sure you can trust a progamer such as Soulkey to know when he's licked. hm i don't say he shouldnt gg when he did i say that he might notice that 8 o'clock earlier and kill it | ||
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maybenexttime
Poland5560 Posts
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alypse
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prototype.
Canada4202 Posts
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
On April 30 2011 17:48 maybenexttime wrote: Is it just me or has this MSL been a complete blast so far? We've had like a couple dozen totally orgasmic games. O_o Ya, it's been great. | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
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Yxes2211
United States1587 Posts
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hauton
Hong Kong743 Posts
On April 30 2011 17:37 _Quasar_ wrote: why did he GG? Leta was just mining out. He was going to kill his 2 bottom bases and then... what? At least could try. Soulkey was the one mining out. Leta had map control, expos coming online throughout the bottom left corner of the map, and Soulkey simply didn't have the economy to fully transition to Ultralisks. Even if he did, Leta had enough Siege Tanks and Vultures to keep a reasonable number at bay. Soulkey's key mistake was the mismicro with his Mutalisks at the engagement @ 4oclock - he lost all of them, and consequently, he lost too many early Lurkers and Defilers in the defense to keep himself from being contained. After that battle, he was on his heels the first of the game. At that point, he played very well IMHO, being very efficient with his constrained resources. His spellcasting and tactics ensured that he was making good use of every Defiler and Lurker at his disposal. However, Leta's mine strategy kept Soulkey from making any real advances, and I guess at that point, he got desperate and tried to go Ultralisks without a real econ to support it. I would've almost argued for Guardians, had Leta not gone Goliaths, I'm guessing in anticipation of Queens. | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
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GoTuNk!
Chile4591 Posts
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
Puffs his cheeks and brings out the ruler... | ||
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Zim23
United States1681 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
Really in red at 10.5 on Dante's Peak | ||
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hauton
Hong Kong743 Posts
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alypse
2771 Posts
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MountainDewJunkie
United States10341 Posts
On April 30 2011 17:48 maybenexttime wrote: Is it just me or has this MSL been a complete blast so far? We've had like a couple dozen totally orgasmic games. O_o Horang2 for MSL champ! | ||
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Weemoed
Netherlands741 Posts
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_Quasar_
Russian Federation4405 Posts
yayaya hero vs Horang2 finals gogo lol :D | ||
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pylonsalad
Canada649 Posts
On April 30 2011 17:46 _Quasar_ wrote: Couldn't he come back by destroying those 8 o'clock base(s) in the stage of construction or shortly after...? O_o I think that really killed him. Since the beginning of mech transition his units were a lot more cost effective. He could never challenge for map control so he can only do damage when Leta's units are not there. If he focuses on 8, Leta will focus on defending 8 and he Leta will win at 8, just like Leta wins wherever he chooses to fight because SK's economy is so weak. Leta's economy is miles ahead of SK's even without 8 and 9. It all goes back to the massive damage that was done to SK's economy at his 3rd due to the ineffectiveness of his mutas. | ||
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MountainDewJunkie
United States10341 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
both players with SCV-efficiency depots Rax at the bottom of Flash's nat, Really with rax in main odd scouting pattern from Really | ||
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Russian Federation4405 Posts
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/PL5gp.jpg) maybe he's drawing a snake on the minimap | ||
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
On April 30 2011 17:51 alypse wrote: Please don't let valkyries kill you again Flash... which game was this? | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
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ArvickHero
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Zona
40426 Posts
both players taking their nats after Rax | ||
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Yxes2211
United States1587 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
Flash bunkers his nat | ||
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hauton
Hong Kong743 Posts
On April 30 2011 17:53 ArvickHero wrote: Really adopted Flash's scouting method Damn you beat me to it! | ||
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pred470r
Bulgaria3265 Posts
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MountainDewJunkie
United States10341 Posts
Think PDPop Ro32... | ||
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GG.NoRe
Korea (South)1051 Posts
On April 30 2011 17:48 prototype. wrote: aghhh, GTR is blocking the resource counter on top right lol | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
really forgoing a bunker flash already taking his 2nd gas | ||
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MountainDewJunkie
United States10341 Posts
Pretty clever. | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
Flash drops a starport at the south end of his main, flash's scv chasing and damaging Really's scouting scv in his main Flash's marine fails to stop the scv and Really scouts the starport | ||
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alypse
2771 Posts
Both of the 2 losses that knocked him out of last MSL in Ro32, one vs Really iirc | ||
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Anxiety
United States650 Posts
Really! | ||
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Niruz
Sweden169 Posts
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MountainDewJunkie
United States10341 Posts
... ... No? | ||
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_Quasar_
Russian Federation4405 Posts
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
On April 30 2011 17:55 Holgerius wrote: Flash with a much faster second gas. Going for ports or something? Indeed, 2 ports. | ||
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
Flash rams one vulture into really's nat, but really stops it with a vulture, 2 marines, and a tank of his own Flash getting a control tower on his first starport Really adding his 3rd and 4th factories, already has armory (but no academy?!?) | ||
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_Quasar_
Russian Federation4405 Posts
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Nesto
Switzerland1318 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
Really now adding his own academy | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
3rd wraith heading out oh boy Really wraiths with 4 kills already | ||
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Holgerius
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Weemoed
Netherlands741 Posts
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_Quasar_
Russian Federation4405 Posts
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Elroi
Sweden5595 Posts
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
Thank you, found it | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
Really desperately repairing, one wraith without energy backs off Really burns a scan, doesn't even kill 1 wraith | ||
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_Quasar_
Russian Federation4405 Posts
On April 30 2011 17:58 ArvickHero wrote: are you fucking kidding me Really, you saw that coming maybe that scout really didn't see it... | ||
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Nesto
Switzerland1318 Posts
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GTR
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
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MountainDewJunkie
United States10341 Posts
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4Servy
Netherlands1542 Posts
On April 30 2011 17:56 _Quasar_ wrote: i thought you usually go 3 ports from 2 bases... no? O_o 1 rax > fe into 2 port wraith is the build, your taking about a midgame switch but this is just a normal tvt opener. | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
Flash now on 3 factories/3 shops Really still on 4 factories/2 shops, double upgrading from the shops now he's got a few mines planted on the W ridge | ||
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ArvickHero
10387 Posts
doubtful, he DID build a goliath | ||
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Lucumo
6850 Posts
On April 30 2011 17:55 alypse wrote: Both of the 2 losses that knocked him out of last MSL in Ro32, one vs Really iirc Pretty sure it was Ssak and Classic. | ||
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hauton
Hong Kong743 Posts
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tabula rasa
360 Posts
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MountainDewJunkie
United States10341 Posts
Goliaths, charon boosters, and scan. -_- | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
Flash's cloaked wraith watching Really setting up his tank line midmap, scores a free tank really taking a 3rd at inner 11 Flash taking 6 mass wraiths pick off Really's floating rax spotting for his western tanks | ||
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okum
France5778 Posts
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
Really with a tank line stretched across more than half of the map, with turrets too Flash content to let him have it and instead expand more quickly two fangirls holding hands | ||
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Disregard
China10252 Posts
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GG.NoRe
Korea (South)1051 Posts
Beer break guys! | ||
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Weemoed
Netherlands741 Posts
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Itachii
Poland12466 Posts
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alypse
2771 Posts
that's right, thank you for correction. hmm, flash's build is working | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
now they're really racking up SCV kills at Really's 3rd scan, well the wraiths head into the main, pick off the one turret there what havoc Flash taking a 5th already at 4.5 | ||
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_Quasar_
Russian Federation4405 Posts
not in the game where it was expected today, but still | ||
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GoTuNk!
Chile4591 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
Really is totally outclassed in strategy Really taking a 4th at 12 | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
On April 30 2011 18:02 Itachii wrote: Holy fuck they are as deadly as JD's mutas I'd absolutely love to see what Flash could do as a Zerg player. :D | ||
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KobraKay
Portugal4231 Posts
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ArvickHero
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shadymmj
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thoradycus
Malaysia3262 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
Really adding his own starport now Flash extending his tank line to the east of the map | ||
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hauton
Hong Kong743 Posts
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Itachii
Poland12466 Posts
On April 30 2011 18:03 Holgerius wrote: I'd absolutely love to see what Flash could do as a Zerg player. :D me as well, but flash's 2 port vs jd's mutas would be sexy as hell to watch. | ||
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Sweden16951 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
still 3 factories wraiths head up the northeast, pick off an scv there sent to build turrets goliaths giving chase, the wraiths cloak | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On April 30 2011 18:03 Holgerius wrote: I'd absolutely love to see what Flash could do as a Zerg player. :D wouldn't be on the same level as jaedong and thus wouldn't be as popular as now. I like him better as terran :D | ||
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United States7801 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
now visit really's 3rd again to pick off like 10 scvs scan, flash immediately ditches the area now at Really's 4th, picking off scvs... | ||
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Sweden1461 Posts
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Weemoed
Netherlands741 Posts
On April 30 2011 18:05 Vasoline73 wrote: God Flash is so good lol Nothing else to say at the moment | ||
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
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SC2Phoenix
Canada2814 Posts
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Womwomwom
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ArvickHero
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Russian Federation4405 Posts
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
On April 30 2011 18:04 Itachii wrote: me as well, but flash's 2 port vs jd's mutas would be sexy as hell to watch. Fuck yeah. Flash's micro is quite underrated, because most people think of him as a purely turtling macro beast. Which he is as well, of course. :D | ||
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
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.Enigma.
Sweden1461 Posts
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
if he wasn't already so far behind this could go mind/light awesomeness | ||
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hauton
Hong Kong743 Posts
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United States7801 Posts
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GG.NoRe
Korea (South)1051 Posts
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
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Russian Federation4405 Posts
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alypse
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Zona
40426 Posts
more scv kills at his 3rd while Flash has his 5 bases running Really doesn't even have a full 4 up turret in Really's main destroyed 2 valks out, flash tries to snipe them but loses all of his wraiths send on that attack instead he's got more though Flash now adding starports, has physics lab (and 3+ armories) Flash's 6th at 4 is done | ||
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Canada4202 Posts
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Disregard
China10252 Posts
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Neverhood
United States5388 Posts
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
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thopol
Japan4560 Posts
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Sweden5595 Posts
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hauton
Hong Kong743 Posts
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phosphorylation
United States2935 Posts
his fav units: cattlebruisers | ||
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_Quasar_
Russian Federation4405 Posts
On April 30 2011 18:06 ArvickHero wrote: holy crap battlecruisers already? flash has like 6 bases, and he left really without like 1/2 of all his scvs... that's not too early i think. | ||
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Sweden16951 Posts
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ArvickHero
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PrinceDelight
Australia49 Posts
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thoradycus
Malaysia3262 Posts
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
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Germany593 Posts
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tabula rasa
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Zona
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Flash scanning the east of Really's tank line, Flash massing a LOT of tanks there really scans to see what's up advances an inch and picks off a few tanks Flash still has no ground ups? | ||
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
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Mortician
Bulgaria2332 Posts
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foxmeep
Australia2333 Posts
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_Quasar_
Russian Federation4405 Posts
raping the scv transfer line :D | ||
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Nikon
Bulgaria5710 Posts
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Sweden1461 Posts
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phosphorylation
United States2935 Posts
delyaing other guy's economy with wraith harass while making 99999 BCs at home | ||
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
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vishrut
United States567 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
they run into some maynarding scvs, net another 8 kills or so really is truly outclassed really taking a 6th at 1 4 wraiths intercept flash's wraiths, they manage one more kill at 12, but all fall flash already with 2 bc's, now 1 armor too 6 starports it seems? | ||
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
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SC2Phoenix
Canada2814 Posts
On April 30 2011 18:07 sixfour wrote: Standerd tranistion from 4 port wraith -----> 7 port cattlebruisers.is that seven starports? | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50123 Posts
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Russian Federation4405 Posts
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ArvickHero
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hauton
Hong Kong743 Posts
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Russian Federation4405 Posts
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Nikon
Bulgaria5710 Posts
On April 30 2011 18:08 vishrut wrote: how are valks against bc They're not very good. | ||
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shadymmj
1906 Posts
On April 30 2011 18:08 vishrut wrote: how are valks against bc like throwing stones at a tank | ||
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thoradycus
Malaysia3262 Posts
On April 30 2011 18:08 vishrut wrote: how are valks against bc terribad | ||
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Womwomwom
5930 Posts
On April 30 2011 18:08 vishrut wrote: how are valks against bc Better than against Mutalisks. That being said, Battlecruisers have a shit load of HP and armour soo..... | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
really has so much vision on the map but still doesn't know what's up? Flash no longer able to mine the minerals at inner 7.5 but mines the gas from below Really taking a 7th at 9 it's do or die time for Really now Flash moving forwards with tanks +3 BC time to roll over Really with his earlier massive economy | ||
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Lucumo
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
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Russian Federation4405 Posts
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
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alypse
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Mortician
Bulgaria2332 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
valks move to intercept but they suck vs BC's Flash now with a scary acount of BC's - maybe 6 or 7? really adding 7 starports to 2, so 8 starports pumping wraiths now I don't think i'll end well Flash beelining towards 1 with BC/tank tanks siege up to shell scvs! | ||
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4Servy
Netherlands1542 Posts
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Womwomwom
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
On April 30 2011 18:06 sixfour wrote: VALKYRIE if he wasn't already so far behind this could go mind/light awesomeness ok, maybe it could, really with mass starports now | ||
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Musou
1375 Posts
On April 30 2011 18:08 vishrut wrote: how are valks against bc If you're being serious, absolute garbage. They do 8 shots of 6 damage each, and BCs have base 3 armor, which basically cuts their damage in half with no upgrades. | ||
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Sweden1461 Posts
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thoradycus
Malaysia3262 Posts
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shadymmj
1906 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
Really throwing away a bunch of goliaths into Flash's tanks at 1 really with a valiant valk/wraith attack clears out Flash's BC's at 2 | ||
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Sweden1461 Posts
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
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Dice
Korea (South)926 Posts
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Emon_
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GG.NoRe
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prototype.
Canada4202 Posts
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kuroshiroi
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
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Sweden1461 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
from 7 starports at 2 wonder if his home starport is idle Really's map control might start to kick in if he can hold off Flash for a little longer | ||
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Musou
1375 Posts
On April 30 2011 18:12 kuroshiroi wrote: Valkyries do surprisingly well against BCs... all attacking BCs dead, luckily Flash is making 7? more. I think it was the wraiths more than the valks. :p | ||
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Sweden5595 Posts
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Netherlands1542 Posts
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Australia2394 Posts
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HopLight
Sweden999 Posts
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Bulgaria2332 Posts
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Nesto
Switzerland1318 Posts
On April 30 2011 18:12 kuroshiroi wrote: Valkyries do surprisingly well against BCs... all attacking BCs dead, luckily Flash is making 7? more. guess that was the wraiths. valks do like 3 damage to bc's? ^^ | ||
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Chile4591 Posts
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Mooncat
Germany1228 Posts
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kuroshiroi
3149 Posts
On April 30 2011 18:12 Musou wrote: I think it was the wraiths more than the valks. :p Yeah, probably. But they definitely helped a lot by tanking damage and stuff. | ||
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Bulgaria1565 Posts
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Anxiety
United States650 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
really committing his ~2 groups of wraiths to attack Flash's ~1 group of BC's SE of 9? no, he backs off Flash yamoto'ing more tanks there | ||
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Netherlands1542 Posts
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Bulgaria5710 Posts
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thoradycus
Malaysia3262 Posts
On April 30 2011 18:13 Nesto wrote: guess that was the wraiths. valks do like 3 damage to bc's? ^^ upgraded,they do 1 dmg? since BCs wld have 6 armor,Lol | ||
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Russian Federation4405 Posts
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vishrut
United States567 Posts
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kuroshiroi
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Nesto
Switzerland1318 Posts
and he controls more than half the map | ||
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United States357 Posts
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vishrut
United States567 Posts
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thoradycus
Malaysia3262 Posts
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GG.NoRe
Korea (South)1051 Posts
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Zona
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but no, they unsiege and move east? Really sending an SCV to inner 2, will he take yet another expo there? really's wraiths picking off goliaths/turrets/a few tanks in the west as Flash's bc's moved to the east Really starting to mass-add control towers now, time for BC's of his own? Flash attacking towards 3 with goliath/BC and a few tanks Really doesn't have much defense there! and won't commit his wraiths against all those goliaths | ||
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_Quasar_
Russian Federation4405 Posts
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
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alypse
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Mooncat
Germany1228 Posts
Build some Valks please. | ||
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letian
Germany4221 Posts
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Nikon
Bulgaria5710 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
Really with his new CC at inner 2 done, but he doesn't transfer SCVs, even from his base at 3 under attack now goliath/tank going to take it down Really unsieges from the eastern ridge and pulls back | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
Really adding his first 3 BC's | ||
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England11061 Posts
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Finland206 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
really splits his wraiths, loses 2 for nothing to goliaths Flash mass-yamoto'ing tanks near inner 2 really attacking with wraiths, losing too many Flash's BC/goliath too strong against wraith-heavy mix! really loses inner 2! | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50123 Posts
ITS OVER!!!!ITS ALMOST OVER!!!! | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
On April 30 2011 18:18 Emon_ wrote: 4 SCVs ON GAS! ZOOM IN ON THAT! that's the way to get maximum gas from those geyser positions 2 tanks from flash siege up at 12 Flash's bc's and goliaths moving into 2, where really has his starports... | ||
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Germany902 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
Really doesn't have what it takes another new BC from his starports immediately ipcked off | ||
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Canada3867 Posts
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Kanil
United States1713 Posts
On April 30 2011 18:18 Ubersturmfuhrer wrote: why does lategame TvT always go to Wraith vs BC and not BC vs BC or something? Because if a TvT goes BC vs BC, the viewers start gouging their eyeballs out with spoons, and nobody wants that. | ||
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Germany4221 Posts
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Singapore285 Posts
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Zona
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still not giving up! he sends his measly BC group south, it runs into goliaths and he concedes | ||
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England11061 Posts
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United States357 Posts
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Bulgaria5710 Posts
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Korea (South)1051 Posts
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Singapore7730 Posts
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50123 Posts
FLASHUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!LEE YONG HO!!!!!!! | ||
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Turbovolver
Australia2394 Posts
On April 30 2011 18:20 letian wrote: really playing really sloppy with his air force, so many unnessesary losses, can't believe he prepared well to play Flash, thats just awful Do you honestly think his ability to micro large air forces comes down to preparation? -_- edit: @kamikami: NOT ENOUGH PREPARATION | ||
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United States149 Posts
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Australia3596 Posts
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Canada218 Posts
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prototype.
Canada4202 Posts
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Canada7507 Posts
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KobraKay
Portugal4231 Posts
On April 30 2011 18:13 Turbovolver wrote: Flash deserves it. "I'm just going to let him mass expand while I camp behind tanks and mass BC's". It's like the progamer version of when my really bad friends play. What? He expanded everywhere in his side of the map really early. He didnt camp behind tanks and waited. I expoed faster than really =/ wtf are you talking about?! | ||
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letian
Germany4221 Posts
On April 30 2011 18:21 kamikami wrote: why didn't Really engage with all his force ? He had 6-7 BCs at the base doing nothing while his whole army was defending the nearest base yes, I also thought so, very interesting, bad performance by Really, really) | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
It's a little sad that first tank+BC push got stopped, other than that Flash played a sick sick game of SC. | ||
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Canada3741 Posts
;DDDDDDDD | ||
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Japan4560 Posts
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noojOh
United States755 Posts
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Mooncat
Germany1228 Posts
On April 30 2011 18:20 HolydaKing wrote: can't believe flash won this. really had like 60-70% territory all game but built the wrong units.. ...... Flash was ahead in this game from start to finish. When Really killed all his BCs at 1 o'clock he had a window of opportunity to come back, but he didn't. Flash did huge economic damage in the beginning and was always a base ahead or two as far as I could see it. | ||
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Australia3596 Posts
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GG.NoRe
Korea (South)1051 Posts
On April 30 2011 18:21 kamikami wrote: why didn't Really engage with all his force ? He had 6-7 BCs at the base doing nothing while his whole army was defending the nearest base flash had at least 15, with goliath support. He was waiting for energy and hoping clone Yamato flashs BCs but it was really too late. He lost it when he did nothing with the mass wraiths after the initial defend | ||
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okum
France5778 Posts
On April 30 2011 18:21 J1.au wrote: At no point in that game was Really ahead. Correct. Flash was in a somewhat dangerous position when Really held more than half of the map, as he needed to break that, but that's what the quick BCs were for. | ||
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Musou
1375 Posts
On April 30 2011 18:22 letian wrote: yes, I also thought so, very interesting, bad performance by Really, really) His BCs would have just died if he tried to engage. Flash had a larger BC force as well as goliaths supporting. If anything, I assume he was waiting for energy to yamato at least some of Flash's BCs but ended up not having enough time. | ||
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Zona
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United States1681 Posts
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
On April 30 2011 18:23 noojOh wrote: really made too many wraiths and didn't keep his tank number to keep the lines. imo he should have made tanks turrets and then missed in some goliaths as well when he saw the bcs No he should've attacked Flash's inner Expo with his wraith/tank army when he repelled the first push from Flash because that was when Flash has the weakest defence and Really failed to capture that window. | ||
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Musou
1375 Posts
On April 30 2011 18:23 GG.NoRe wrote: flash had at least 15, with goliath support. He was waiting for energy and hoping clone Yamato flashs BCs but it was really too late. He lost it when he did nothing with the mass wraiths after the initial defend On April 30 2011 18:23 Musou wrote: His BCs would have just died if he tried to engage. Flash had a larger BC force as well as goliaths supporting. If anything, I assume he was waiting for energy to yamato at least some of Flash's BCs but ended up not having enough time. Wow, hivemind! I like your analysis! ;p | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
On April 30 2011 18:23 Mooncat wrote: ...... Flash was ahead in this game from start to finish. When Really killed all his BCs at 1 o'clock he had a window of opportunity to come back, but he didn't. Flash did huge economic damage in the beginning and was always a base ahead or two as far as I could see it. for most of the early game Flash was 2 bases ahead, plus all those SCVs he destroyed with his Even when Really evened up the CC count I doubt his rate of income ever caught up to Flash at any point in the game | ||
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hauton
Hong Kong743 Posts
The problem with Really going Wraiths is that while it may be tactically superior to Battlecruisers, you need something else to capitalize on those gains. Even when Really decimated Flash's BC @ 1, he lost too many Wraiths and Valkyries in the attempt. This meant that he could not go on the offensive, especially given his inferior ground force. While he held a nominal advantage in map control, he was very behind in his economy, and he couldn't break out into positive momentum. His tech switch might've put him on even ground had he been given time to accumulate his BC count and upgrades, but Flash knowingly detected the play and immediately moved in with his army. This forced Really's hand into engaging with his wraiths and valks when this time, Flash had goliaths backing his BCs. | ||
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Sweden16951 Posts
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letian
Germany4221 Posts
On April 30 2011 18:23 Musou wrote: His BCs would have just died if he tried to engage. Flash had a larger BC force as well as goliaths supporting. If anything, I assume he was waiting for energy to yamato at least some of Flash's BCs but ended up not having enough time. And thats why engaged with his wraiths and valks only?. I think its obvious that his BC's would have been of a good help right there even without any yamatos. It was already too late, but still he could have made a better damage. Anyway he lost earlier, so whatever. | ||
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kuroshiroi
3149 Posts
On April 30 2011 18:23 Musou wrote: His BCs would have just died if he tried to engage. Flash had a larger BC force as well as goliaths supporting. If anything, I assume he was waiting for energy to yamato at least some of Flash's BCs but ended up not having enough time. A medium sized army does a lot better against a large army than a tiny army does against a large army. Those BCs, valks and wraith were useless in the upper right corner but they could've helped destroy a lot more of Flash's army. Really is good at TvT but he made a lot of questionable decisions and Flash made 1, losing those early BCs. Well deserved victory, this will probably be a 2-0 in the end. | ||
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_Quasar_
Russian Federation4405 Posts
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
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tabula rasa
360 Posts
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
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Sweden5595 Posts
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GG.NoRe
Korea (South)1051 Posts
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hauton
Hong Kong743 Posts
On April 30 2011 18:29 Xiphos wrote: I am still pissed off cuz Really didn't do anything with those wraith. Such as? Going on the offensive, risking his only real defense against Flash's accumulating BC count? | ||
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Lucumo
6850 Posts
On April 30 2011 18:30 tabula rasa wrote: three mirror matchups today? i think i'll stop here. And miss Zero vs Hero, the best match today? Tz... | ||
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Russian Federation4405 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
On April 30 2011 18:31 Elroi wrote: No. Flash was definetly significantly behind when he lost that battle. I don't know why flash fans would deny it. He made an amazing come back after all O_O In what manner do you claim Flash was behind? Units? Income? | ||
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hauton
Hong Kong743 Posts
On April 30 2011 18:31 Elroi wrote: No. Flash was definetly significantly behind when he lost that battle. I don't know why flash fans would deny it. He made an amazing come back after all O_O He was up on at least 5 bases for a good 5 minutes before he lost those BCs. He had enough resources to IMMEDIATELY queue up another gaggle of BCs. That's in ADDITION to the 50 or so tanks he had chilling along his line. | ||
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Mooncat
Germany1228 Posts
On April 30 2011 18:31 Elroi wrote: No. Flash was definetly significantly behind when he lost that battle. I don't know why flash fans would deny it. He made an amazing come back after all O_O It has nothing to do with being a Flash fan or not. It's just not true. Really was never ahead in that game, and if you've watched it you know it. Just because you win one battle it doesn't mean that you've made up for all your lost SCVs and all the time that your opponent was one or two bases ahead. | ||
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J1.au
Australia3596 Posts
On April 30 2011 18:31 Elroi wrote: No. Flash was definetly significantly behind when he lost that battle. I don't know why flash fans would deny it. He made an amazing come back after all O_O You can't be serious... | ||
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Russian Federation4405 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
Flash was not "definetly significantly behind" in any measure, and he was solidly ahead in income and with a superior unit composition. | ||
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Hungary6026 Posts
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fallingdream
Romania452 Posts
I'm not sure if troll. | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
On April 30 2011 18:31 Elroi wrote: No. Flash was definetly significantly behind when he lost that battle. I don't know why flash fans would deny it. He made an amazing come back after all O_O No, he wasn't. Flash was economically ahead the entire game. Really had some territory that didn't matter at all, and some expos that weren't saturated. | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
Zero in yellow, 4.5 Hero in brown, 1.5 | ||
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England11061 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
On April 30 2011 18:31 hauton wrote: Such as? Going on the offensive, risking his only real defense against Flash's accumulating BC count? Well after Flash's initial first Push with that BC army failed, Flash's BCs were out of position so Really could utilize those mobility advantage from Wraith and go kill some tanks. at the inner Expo of 9 o clock but he didn't. And PLUS you are SUPPOSE to use the mobility of the Wraith against BCs AND really at one point had 2 teams of Wraith so he could deal dmg there and there.... | ||
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hauton
Hong Kong743 Posts
On April 30 2011 18:33 _Quasar_ wrote: ZerO fell asleep during the TvT lol He does look a little cranky... "Who woke me up!?!? I wanted a nap, so I started counting exploding SCVS!" | ||
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Mataru
Norway356 Posts
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Itachii
Poland12466 Posts
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kuroshiroi
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Zona
40426 Posts
ovie first for zero | ||
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Russian Federation4405 Posts
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
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hauton
Hong Kong743 Posts
On April 30 2011 18:34 Holgerius wrote: No, he wasn't. Flash was economically ahead the entire game. Really had some territory that didn't matter at all, and some expos that weren't saturated. A few expos weren't taken at all. | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
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Elroi
Sweden5595 Posts
On April 30 2011 18:32 Zona wrote: In what manner do you claim Flash was behind? Units? Income? yes? Both, no? He had very little space and was two bases behind - or am I hallucinating? OK. Seems I'm the only one to think this lol | ||
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Canada3867 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
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Russian Federation4405 Posts
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GG.NoRe
Korea (South)1051 Posts
![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/Pdthu.jpg) | ||
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HopLight
Sweden999 Posts
Edit, thought he was going to kill the nat hatch | ||
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Russian Federation4405 Posts
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Itachii
Poland12466 Posts
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Deekin[
Serbia1713 Posts
I so wanted to see Leta win, well I am glad that he did!!! And Flashu sick as always! | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
hero even starts to morph his expo into a lair but hero holds, zero's spire is already on the way | ||
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KobraKay
Portugal4231 Posts
On April 30 2011 18:36 Elroi wrote: yes? Both, no? He had very little space and was two bases behind - or am I hallucinating? Sorry you are. The tank BC push took out other tanks, gols and the BCs did damage... Flash had more tanks and another round of BCs popping after the battle. More income (equal bases I believe but even if really already had the other 2 CCs they were empty, not enough scvs or none at all) and better tank positioning. | ||
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Russian Federation4405 Posts
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hauton
Hong Kong743 Posts
On April 30 2011 18:35 Xiphos wrote: Well after Flash's initial first Push with that BC army failed, Flash's BCs were out of position so Really could utilize those mobility advantage from Wraith and go kill some tanks. at the inner Expo of 9 o clock but he didn't. And PLUS you are SUPPOSE to use the mobility of the Wraith against BCs AND really at one point had 2 teams of Wraith so he could deal dmg there and there.... Flash literally had turrets across the entire bottom of the map from side to side. | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
On April 30 2011 18:36 Elroi wrote: yes? Both, no? He had very little space and was two bases behind - or am I hallucinating? Flash took his 3rd, 4th, 5th bases way faster than Really, killed off a crapton of SCVs with his harassment and was already churning out well upgraded BCs, etc etc. Flash was in total control. | ||
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
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Russian Federation4405 Posts
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GG.NoRe
Korea (South)1051 Posts
On April 30 2011 18:38 KobraKay wrote: Sorry you are. The tank BC push took out other tanks, gols and the BCs did damage... Flash had more tanks and another round of BCs popping after the battle. More income (equal bases I believe but even if really already had the other 2 CCs they were empty, not enough scvs or none at all) and better tank positioning. dafuck... its zvz now. :p | ||
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Korea (South)1051 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
zero with no drones on gas zero's micro not the best, he picks off 2 drones in hero's main 3 now, taking a lot of spore hits hero's spire coming, he's taking his 2nd gas one ling sneaks into zero's main | ||
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Korea (South)1051 Posts
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_Quasar_
Russian Federation4405 Posts
On April 30 2011 18:41 GG.NoRe wrote: zero no gas. going for megaling bust wat seriously? he had like no more than a pack of lings... =/ | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
game slipping away from zero with every second that passes zero starts mining his 2nd gas, adds a creep to his nat but hero now the one moving out with a bunch of lings, he's got scourge out too | ||
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Russian Federation4405 Posts
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hauton
Hong Kong743 Posts
I'm surprised that so many people think that Really was on equal or better footing than Flash at any point in that game. | ||
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Russian Federation4405 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
but hero's lings don't do much damage, the sunken completes 2 lings in zero's main wait did a scourge hit zero's mutas in his main? lol zero attacks his own nat extractor with his mutas | ||
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Sweden5595 Posts
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hauton
Hong Kong743 Posts
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
zero able to get a ling into hero's main | ||
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Russian Federation4405 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
zero's drone count not half bad compared to hero's, actually zero might even be ahead in that respect | ||
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
hero has +1 air carapace! | ||
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Lucumo
6850 Posts
On April 30 2011 18:44 Holgerius wrote: Did Zero just shoot his own extractor? Probably thought the two scourges were still around. But they already retreated northwards. | ||
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Russian Federation4405 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
hero moving out with his air force! scourge control not that great, he picks off a few drones at zero's nat and pulls backc | ||
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Nesto
Switzerland1318 Posts
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_Quasar_
Russian Federation4405 Posts
and more probability that it ll go unnoticed LOL NO IT DIDNT ZEROS LINGS KILL IT | ||
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Ubersturmfuhrer
Finland206 Posts
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Irratonalys
Germany902 Posts
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HighTemper
Canada3867 Posts
Maphack? | ||
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
yes they do, and find the hatchery despite where it is "hidden" cancelled zero has +1 air carapace too now | ||
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HopLight
Sweden999 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
a mistake I think zero's now chasing them away hero's mutas mostly annihilated, only 3 left zero still with plenty | ||
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corumjhaelen
France6884 Posts
On April 30 2011 18:46 Zona wrote: hero building a hatchery BEHIND the 10.5 mineral line YellOw style ! But Zero has maphacks. And pretty bad micro, but he eems to be at an advantage. | ||
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_Quasar_
Russian Federation4405 Posts
but hero in better position to take a 3rd... with those spores | ||
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
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Russian Federation4405 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
now attacking the southern spore at heor's nat now the northern spore as hero's mutas move to defend lings that entered his main zero dominating hero's mutas now he controls hero's nat hero concedes | ||
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hauton
Hong Kong743 Posts
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
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TRAP[yoo]
Hungary6026 Posts
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Itachii
Poland12466 Posts
GG, decent ZvZ. | ||
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GoTuNk!
Chile4591 Posts
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ArvickHero
10387 Posts
Hero losing two ZvZs in one day, ouch :\ | ||
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okum
France5778 Posts
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bearbuddy
3442 Posts
I can sleep tonight. | ||
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mustaju
Estonia4504 Posts
the Ace match | ||
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Russian Federation4405 Posts
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thopol
Japan4560 Posts
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GG.NoRe
Korea (South)1051 Posts
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Turbovolver
Australia2394 Posts
On April 30 2011 18:47 HighTemper wrote: How does he know? Maphack? He saw it with a scourge, guys. edit: lol I'm behind | ||
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zeru
8156 Posts
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hauton
Hong Kong743 Posts
On April 30 2011 18:49 GG.NoRe wrote: what does this even mean it was a pretty bad game where do i vote for that | ||
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Irratonalys
Germany902 Posts
The Z in Zero stands for "ZvZ bonjwa". its his worst matchup.... | ||
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alypse
2771 Posts
Poor him | ||
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pinkranger15
Philippines1597 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + first losing a crucial ZvZ in PL. now this | ||
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thoradycus
Malaysia3262 Posts
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Itachii
Poland12466 Posts
On April 30 2011 18:46 Nesto wrote: did zero dodge a single scourge in this game? no he did not his scourge, however, had 2 kills. thats how good he is | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
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hauton
Hong Kong743 Posts
On April 30 2011 18:50 Zona wrote: hmm, after hero spored up I don't think he was economically ahead anymore He lost his lead after the failed ling runby. From there, he had a timing window where he could've committed to an all-in air attack with the earlier +1 carapace upgrade, but he elected to go for some hidden expo shenanigans that was quickly scouted. | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
but in the intervening time after that zero added more drones and expanded while hero lost a few to mutas and didn't seem to really add many e: yes, that's it hero added a lot of lings rather than drones and failed with them | ||
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hauton
Hong Kong743 Posts
On April 30 2011 18:52 Zona wrote: no, after hero spored up he still had significantly more drones but in the intervening time after that zero added more drones and expanded while hero lost a few to mutas and didn't seem to really add many He was neglecting drones for the ling attack. | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
oh well, caught before the edit | ||
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hauton
Hong Kong743 Posts
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
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xarthaz
1704 Posts
he used to be a zvz baller :p too bad people tend to get worse in zvz as they get older | ||
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England11061 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
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hauton
Hong Kong743 Posts
5) Bisu Flash Game 1 4) Bisu Sea 3) Jaedong Sea 2) Bisu Flash Game 2 1) Jaedong Flash all from the Group of Death. | ||
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pylonsalad
Canada649 Posts
On April 30 2011 18:56 alypse wrote: Next match - the battle between the futures of Protoss - Grape and Horang2.If Cheezang2 is the future of protoss, then Auir is truly doomed. | ||
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
On April 30 2011 18:58 sixfour wrote: lol tasteless hating on majora's mask zelda has television shows, not of the same sort as the shows starcraft has, though | ||
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GG.NoRe
Korea (South)1051 Posts
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Itachii
Poland12466 Posts
On April 30 2011 18:59 pylonsalad wrote: If Cheezang2 is the future of protoss, then Auir is truly doomed. What?! Tiger's other match-ups are good, believe me + Show Spoiler + If they are played on destination and his cheese is not scouted | ||
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kamikami
France1057 Posts
On April 30 2011 19:00 GG.NoRe wrote: I love that MSL Rewind #1. Can they show that over and over again. Maybe a sub screen during the Grape and Horang2 match! :p because it was Jaedong owning Flash ? | ||
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hauton
Hong Kong743 Posts
On April 30 2011 18:59 Zona wrote: zelda has television shows, not of the same sort as the shows starcraft has, though ![[image loading]](http://www.abload.de/img/laughingelfman17nb.jpg) "Well, EXCUUUUUUUUUUUSE me, Princess!" | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
what's he got planned? | ||
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alypse
2771 Posts
On April 30 2011 18:59 pylonsalad wrote: If Cheezang2 is the future of protoss, then Auir is truly doomed. How can you say that to ones who sacrifice themselves for Aiur, such as ... storming themselves? | ||
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kamikami
France1057 Posts
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Lucumo
6850 Posts
On April 30 2011 18:58 hauton wrote: Back to the MSL Top 5 Games... back me up on this? 5) Bisu Flash Game 1 4) Bisu Sea 3) Jaedong Sea 2) Bisu Flash Game 2 1) Jaedong Flash all from the Group of Death. Wrote this earlier in the thread already, 5 featured Shine vs Reality and Bisu vs Flash(1) So yeah, you just missed one. | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
Grape in yellow at 1.5 Horang2 in red at 4.5 | ||
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kuroshiroi
3149 Posts
On April 30 2011 19:04 alypse wrote: How can you say that to ones who sacrifice themselves for Aiur, such as ... storming themselves? Or the ones who forget storm vZ, or don't use storm vT? | ||
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
Grape yellow 1 | ||
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40426 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
Horang2 staying shut-in for now | ||
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Netherlands1958 Posts
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Poland12466 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
Grape holding his ramp with zealot/probe but Horang2's scouting probe is miles away checking out 10.5 | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
lol horang2 never checked 7.5 proper and revisits it with his probe now he knows grape is at 1.5 but knows nothing else grape takes his nat - is this before range? horang2 adds 2nd and 3rd gates AND robo | ||
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
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HighTemper
Canada3867 Posts
Horang2 goes for 3 gate | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
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Katsuge
Singapore7730 Posts
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Itachii
Poland12466 Posts
On April 30 2011 19:09 Katsuge wrote: 3gate...gg grape lol its not auto-loss, he might deal some dmg but grape might be able to hold MICRO TIME SOON | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
grape with observatory done, now getting range horang2's units streaming out, he has observatory too | ||
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HighTemper
Canada3867 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
(6 goon/2 zealot vs 5 goon/2 zealot) grape pulling probes! | ||
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Itachii
Poland12466 Posts
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HighTemper
Canada3867 Posts
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Itachii
Poland12466 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
fangirls clapping in their cute way goons owning grape's probes it's over and grape concedes | ||
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
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alffla
Hong Kong20321 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
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KobraKay
Portugal4231 Posts
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Finskie
Sweden412 Posts
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HighTemper
Canada3867 Posts
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Emon_
3925 Posts
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Itachii
Poland12466 Posts
On April 30 2011 19:11 alffla wrote: hah that was perfecvt micro from horang2 major fuck-up by grape* | ||
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bearbuddy
3442 Posts
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Weemoed
Netherlands741 Posts
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Mataru
Norway356 Posts
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Katsuge
Singapore7730 Posts
On April 30 2011 19:10 Itachii wrote: its not auto-loss, he might deal some dmg but grape might be able to hold MICRO TIME SOON nope :p | ||
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HopLight
Sweden999 Posts
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kuroshiroi
3149 Posts
Horang2, you scary. | ||
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kamikami
France1057 Posts
On April 30 2011 19:11 HighTemper wrote: That's too easy for Horang2... Grape chose a safe build I don't think that build was "safe" enough lol. | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
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alypse
2771 Posts
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Emon_
3925 Posts
On April 30 2011 19:11 HighTemper wrote: That's too easy for Horang2... Grape chose a safe build Grape had a window to seal the game when Horang was outside his nat. If he would have been a little more aggressive and held his own for a minute or so, Horang would've had no chance. Or if he pulled the probes earlier - he was a base ahead! Thanks for the streamage GTR! <3<3<3 | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
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GG.NoRe
Korea (South)1051 Posts
Poll: Grape vs Horange PvP master (13) meh (7) Ended too soon (2) 22 total votes Your vote: Grape vs Horange | ||
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endy
Switzerland8970 Posts
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pinkranger15
Philippines1597 Posts
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KobraKay
Portugal4231 Posts
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Nikon
Bulgaria5710 Posts
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moopie
12605 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
On April 30 2011 19:13 Emon_ wrote: Grape had a window to seal the game when Horang was outside his nat. If he would have been a little more aggressive and held his own for a minute or so, Horang would've had no chance Thanks for the streamage GTR! <3<3<3 I don't agree, Horang2 had goons rallied from 3 gateways, even if Horang2's micro wasn't so much more superior than Grape's in the first engagement, his rallied units would have likely put him on top | ||
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Emon_
3925 Posts
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GTR
51459 Posts
tiger blood. I suppose that is why he's winning. | ||
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xarthaz
1704 Posts
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Amnesia
United States3818 Posts
only woke up like 10 minutes into Really vs Flash | ||
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okum
France5778 Posts
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butchji
Germany1531 Posts
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alypse
2771 Posts
On April 30 2011 19:05 kuroshiroi wrote: Or the ones who forget storm vZ, or don't use storm vT? they're all brave sons of aiur, just struggling among the golden imperial armies and seasoned swarms... | ||
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HighTemper
Canada3867 Posts
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zeru
8156 Posts
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Emon_
3925 Posts
On April 30 2011 19:15 Zona wrote: I don't agree, Horang2 had goons rallied from 3 gateways, even if Horang2's micro wasn't so much more superior than Grape's in the first engagement, his rallied units would have likely put him on top Perhaps, but Grape's reaver would be out by then and could put some serious pressure on Horang. After that Horang has a small window to secure his natural, otherwise it's gg | ||
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hellbound
United Kingdom2242 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
On April 30 2011 19:26 Emon_ wrote: Perhaps, but Grape's reaver would be out by then and could put some serious pressure on Horang. After that Horang has a small window to secure his natural, otherwise it's gg well, I meant the 6 goons already on the way, which should be more than enough to overpower Grape before he even had his reaver. | ||
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jorge_the_awesome
United States463 Posts
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Katsuge
Singapore7730 Posts
On April 30 2011 22:56 jorge_the_awesome wrote: Is the MSL really bo1? I'm confused. its bo3, just that the other 2 games(if any) is played on another day. *at least for ro16 | ||
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538
Hungary3932 Posts
On April 30 2011 22:56 jorge_the_awesome wrote: Is the MSL really bo1? I'm confused. No, it's Best-of-3, but the first games of the Bo3 series are played on one day, and the other games (sets 2 and if necessary, 3) on some other day. Your LiquiBet picks were also for the winner of the entire Bo3, not these single games played today. The same system will be used in later rounds too, with Bo5s. It's arguable how much sense this system makes (I'm not too big a fan personally), but having the series split up usually provides more varied matchups for the evening, while it also lets the players spend more time preparing and practicing strategies for the games. | ||
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_Quasar_
Russian Federation4405 Posts
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GG.NoRe
Korea (South)1051 Posts
On April 30 2011 23:06 538 wrote: No, it's Best-of-3, but the first games of the Bo3 series are played on one day, and the other games (sets 2 and if necessary, 3) on some other day. Your LiquiBet picks were also for the winner of the entire Bo3, not these single games played today. The same system will be used in later rounds too, with Bo5s. It's arguable how much sense this system makes (I'm not too big a fan personally), but having the series split up usually provides more varied matchups for the evening, while it also lets the players spend more time preparing and practicing strategies for the games. Most importantly, it builds HYPE! | ||
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X10A
Canada9837 Posts
Flash Horang and Zero <3 Bring it home for me, and yourselves | ||
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Djabanete
United States2786 Posts
On April 30 2011 18:13 Turbovolver wrote: Flash deserves it. "I'm just going to let him mass expand while I camp behind tanks and mass BC's". It's like the progamer version of when my really bad friends play. Also, lol. | ||
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okum
France5778 Posts
Apart from a single scouting vulture, his factories *only* built tanks until the 21 minute mark, when the first round of goliaths appears. He only had +1 attack upgraded for his ground units at that point (+2 just finishing), while Really was +2 (+3 finishing). | ||
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AppleTart
United States1261 Posts
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moopie
12605 Posts
On May 01 2011 07:46 AppleTart wrote: I know it hasn't even been even a day since the games, but some of the later comments here are very specific on the game and suggest that the person may have rewatched a VOD of the games. Is a VOD out yet? Torrent already in the tracker and youtubes linked through TLPD. | ||
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AppleTart
United States1261 Posts
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paffypuck
10 Posts
On April 30 2011 19:15 GTR wrote: I guess Horang2's been drinking some... tiger blood. More likely the milk left over from his frosted flakes. | ||
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bearbuddy
3442 Posts
On May 01 2011 12:16 paffypuck wrote: More likely the milk left over from his frosted flakes. Now I'm very sad that Great isn't in this MSL. All because of a single pun. | ||
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infinity2k9
United Kingdom2397 Posts
Biomech TvZ Leta must have been practicing hard in, he looks excellent at it. Having that easier early game thanks to bio then switching really works well with his style. Although he did look in danger at one point he was never really out of control. Horang2's PvP continues to look great.. perfect attack timing and micro somehow coming out with nearly all his dragoons with i think only 1 extra in the first place (i think timing attack hit before goon range was done for Grape?). Hero played a completely disappointing ZvZ, nothing much to be said there except that maybe ZerO is actually improving in it micro and decision making wise. I know he didn't do much scourge dodging but it wasn't needed, better to push forward and do damage on HerO's mutas. He had more than 1 group of muta most of the time anyway which makes scourg e dodging a bit more difficult. | ||
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KTF_CloaK
Netherlands1338 Posts
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AppleTart
United States1261 Posts
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Bisu-Fan
Russian Federation3330 Posts
Crazy multitasking and decision making... and the commentators were like going crazy about how awesome his game was... but why did it seem a bit close? I mean... It looked like his attacks weren't exactly rolling over Reality... Reality always was left with like 2 or 3 tanks~ Anyone shed some light on this? | ||
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infinity2k9
United Kingdom2397 Posts
On May 02 2011 00:24 Bisu-Fan wrote: I have a question..... Jaedong played really really well... Crazy multitasking and decision making... and the commentators were like going crazy about how awesome his game was... but why did it seem a bit close? I mean... It looked like his attacks weren't exactly rolling over Reality... Reality always was left with like 2 or 3 tanks~ Anyone shed some light on this? It's mech. Terran can keep the game going against Zerg for ages even on a much smaller economy simply because their units are so cost effective. No Zerg is going to be able to completely run over an entrenched mech position and make it look totally easy. I think this is the wrong thread for discussion on this game though isn't it? | ||
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Samurai-
Slovenia2035 Posts
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micromegas
Denmark171 Posts
On May 02 2011 00:39 infinity2k9 wrote: It's mech. Terran can keep the game going against Zerg for ages even on a much smaller economy simply because their units are so cost effective. No Zerg is going to be able to completely run over an entrenched mech position and make it look totally easy. I think this is the wrong thread for discussion on this game though isn't it? + Show Spoiler [Jaedong vs Reality from Ro16 day 1] + I believe it's fine to discuss in here - these threads usually evolve into discussions at some point. Anyway, I think you're totally right on this - Terran mech is a hard nut to crack no matter how S-class you might be, especially on large macro maps. As for Jaedong's performance, I don't think that ending a game fast and decidedly, or doing something to make you look imba is neccesarily the only way to 'dominate' another player... I mean, Reality got harassed nonstop and Jaedong pretty much dictated when and where engagements were going down for most of the mid + late game. Working his way through advantages, so to speak. Still I think Reality is a really cool player, and like Jaedong said before the game, he was going into it with respect and had to work for the first win. Look at Jeadong-Midas from the previous MSL (I think the ro8, but I forget), that was a rollover on a whole other level (as in 14cc into getting owned by drones-sorta rollover). And I should say midas is an above-average Terran. | ||
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d(O.o)a
Canada5066 Posts
On May 02 2011 22:43 micromegas wrote: I believe it's fine to discuss in here - these threads usually evolve into discussions at some point. Anyway, I think you're totally right on this - Terran mech is a hard nut to crack no matter how S-class you might be, especially on large macro maps. As for Jaedong's performance, I don't think that ending a game fast and decidedly, or doing something to make you look imba is neccesarily the only way to 'dominate' another player... I mean, Reality got harassed nonstop and Jaedong pretty much dictated when and where engagements were going down for most of the mid + late game. Working his way through advantages, so to speak. Still I think Reality is a really cool player, and like Jaedong said before the game, he was going into it with respect and had to work for the first win. Look at Jeadong-Midas from the previous MSL (I think the ro8, but I forget), that was a rollover on a whole other level (as in 14cc into getting owned by drones-sorta rollover). And I should say midas is an above-average Terran. He meant it was the wrong place because this isn't the thread for jaedong vs. reality. | ||
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micromegas
Denmark171 Posts
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Samurai-
Slovenia2035 Posts
thanks | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=116837&db=Global&cate=&page=2&field=&kwrd= Flash says himself what Elroi (and maybe some other guy(s)) didn't believe; Flash was in total control of the game. ''What point in time were you sure of you win today? When my battle cruisers went to the 1o’ clock position. I lost all of it but I knew I’d win it. I gave up my 3, and 9o’ clock but that was the whole point. I had so many expansions it really didn’t matter. I had plenty of time to get it back'' | ||
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