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wasted
Germany1789 Posts
they're not out yet, but according to that site they should come out today! im kinda exited for the maps, i hope blizzard has learned a thing or two about map making, and don't give us stuff like Challenger or something  --------------------------------------------------------- edit: ok, it became the 3rd, but nevertheless, the maps are out. here for everyone to have a look: Coulee by Mora ![[image loading]](http://img110.exs.cx/img110/1166/23-2Coulee.th.jpg) larger version Hawkeye by Bill307 ![[image loading]](http://img110.exs.cx/img110/9266/4f-2Hawkeye.th.jpg) larger version Astral Eclipse by Bill307 ![[image loading]](http://img110.exs.cx/img110/9105/bc-4AstralEclipse.th.jpg) larger version | ||
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Yarertz
Djibouti1891 Posts
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Addicted`To`Zerg
Bulgaria1353 Posts
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Day[9]
United States7366 Posts
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Addicted`To`Zerg
Bulgaria1353 Posts
On December 02 2004 04:52 Day[9] wrote: i'm waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaiting t.t wish u cordially good luck. who u want to play with? | ||
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RamenStyle
United States1929 Posts
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Day[9]
United States7366 Posts
only because i looooooove ZvZ  | ||
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wasted
Germany1789 Posts
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cav
Pitcairn514 Posts
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analogkensho
United States358 Posts
Best of luck Day, and all players, show what BW is made of! | ||
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[vital]Myth
United States588 Posts
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DooMeR
United States1519 Posts
On December 02 2004 08:08 analogkensho wrote: Wow someone who enjoys ZvZ? Astounding! o_O Best of luck Day, and all players, show what BW is made of! ? both teams are playing BW not just USA +_+ So technicly, the europeans can show the USA what BW is made of. Actually... technicly, bw is made of 0s and 1s that the computer turns into what we see on the monitor. ACTUALLY... BW is on a CD which the CD is made of a wierd super think plastic thingy o.0.... ATUALLY... wtf am i talking about | ||
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wasted
Germany1789 Posts
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Capn
United States539 Posts
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cav
Pitcairn514 Posts
post the maps! | ||
vGl-CoW
Belgium8305 Posts
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-StarS-
United States57 Posts
 i feel for u ;D | ||
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EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
If you really want Day, you could probably count all the votes in the thread to find out who you're playing, it's like 8 pages long or so. People voted you all over the place, but I think you're going to play either Beast or Zelotito, those both got a lot of votes. | ||
Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On December 02 2004 11:39 wasted wrote: jesus christ, if blizzard doesnt keep this ETA i lose all my trust in gaming company (that would be the lousy rest then) Relax..? Assuming blizzard is based on the east coast it's only 3 PM there. West coast and it's more like 12 | ||
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wasted
Germany1789 Posts
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cYaN
Norway3322 Posts
On December 02 2004 04:03 wasted wrote: im kinda exited for the maps, i hope blizzard has learned a thing or two about map making, and don't give us stuff like Challenger or something they also made the most popular map ever. | ||
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wasted
Germany1789 Posts
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Orome
Switzerland11984 Posts
Team Asia will be announced sometime in January. Are they going to make a progamer team, or just non-pros like pj? | ||
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red.venom
United States4651 Posts
On December 02 2004 12:14 FrozenArbiter wrote: Relax..? Assuming blizzard is based on the east coast it's only 3 PM there. West coast and it's more like 12 Blizzard is based on the West Coast. Irvine, CA I believe. | ||
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wasted
Germany1789 Posts
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Mora
Canada5235 Posts
On December 02 2004 04:03 wasted wrote: http://www.battle.net/scevents/SC-MM-news.html they're not out yet, but according to that site they should come out today! im kinda exited for the maps, i hope blizzard has learned a thing or two about map making, and don't give us stuff like Challenger or something They didn't specifically learn anything about making maps; they did hire someone specifically who knows how to make them though. | ||
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Mora
Canada5235 Posts
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wasted
Germany1789 Posts
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bio.dante
Czech Republic290 Posts
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wasted
Germany1789 Posts
On December 02 2004 13:03 bio.dante wrote: pressing stil f5 :p haha, i keep observing their FTP server | ||
Liquid`Drone
Norway28665 Posts
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bio.dante
Czech Republic290 Posts
ftp server? when? where ?? >  [edit nooooooooo tommorow?  ] | ||
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EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
Mondi vs Testie 52 Mondi vs Froz 31 Mondi vs HG 5 Mondi vs Veg 8 Mondi vs Day 5 Beast vs Froz 14 Beast vs Day 31 Beast vs HG 22 Beast vs Veg 25 Beast vs Testie 3 Zelotito vs Day 29 Zelotito vs HG 21 Zelotito vs Froz 15 Zelotito vs Testie 7 Zelotito vs Veg 24 Trek vs HG 28 Trek vs Froz 13 Trek vs Testie 29 Trek vs Veg 18 Trek vs Day 11 Fisheye vs Veg 20 Fisheye vs Day 18 Fisheye vs HG 18 Fisheye vs Froz 23 Fisheye vs Testie 14 | ||
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EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
then I think Beast vs Day, Zelotito vs Veg, Trek vs HG, and Fisheye vs Froz. | ||
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wAt-74
United States137 Posts
On December 02 2004 13:25 EvilTeletubby wrote: Btw, I counted all the matchups, final tally by me is: Mondi vs Testie 52 Mondi vs Froz 31 Mondi vs HG 5 Mondi vs Veg 8 Mondi vs Day 5 Beast vs Froz 14 Beast vs Day 31 Beast vs HG 22 Beast vs Veg 25 Beast vs Testie 3 Zelotito vs Day 29 Zelotito vs HG 21 Zelotito vs Froz 15 Zelotito vs Testie 7 Zelotito vs Veg 24 Trek vs HG 28 Trek vs Froz 13 Trek vs Testie 29 Trek vs Veg 18 Trek vs Day 11 Fisheye vs Veg 20 Fisheye vs Day 18 Fisheye vs HG 18 Fisheye vs Froz 23 Fisheye vs Testie 14 I must be out of it... what do those numbers mean? votes for MU or somethings? | ||
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S(O)ME(O)NE
Canada473 Posts
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tree
United States591 Posts
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EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
On December 02 2004 13:43 S(O)ME(O)NE wrote: Blizzard im pretty sure is in california or in the west becuase of two things. There online technical support is found in the west gateway, and because i think ive read something about them being in the us west. so really its 4:43pm Where i am on the east coast, it would be 1:43pm for them now. Blizzard is in Irvine California. | ||
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EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
On December 02 2004 13:39 wAt-74 wrote: I must be out of it... what do those numbers mean? votes for MU or somethings? http://www.battle.net/forums/thread.aspx?fn=sc-general&t=98903&p=1&tmp=1#new98903 | ||
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S(O)ME(O)NE
Canada473 Posts
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SCFraser
Canada1534 Posts
On December 02 2004 13:29 EvilTeletubby wrote: So Mondi vs Testie is for sure, then I think Beast vs Day, Zelotito vs Veg, Trek vs HG, and Fisheye vs Froz. Mondi v Testie should be close same with Beast vs Day Other than that.. Veg, Trek and Fish winners? although any of them could go either way.. especially if froz practices lots. | ||
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WickeD
Slovakia789 Posts
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wasted
Germany1789 Posts
On December 02 2004 13:15 bio.dante wrote: ftp server? when? where ?? > [edit nooooooooo tommorow? ]ftp.blizzard.com | ||
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pheered.user
United States2603 Posts
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radiaL
Andorra2690 Posts
=/ shit, I can totally see them doing it | ||
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nvnplatypus
Netherlands1300 Posts
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SonRK
United States126 Posts
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cav
Pitcairn514 Posts
On December 02 2004 13:13 Liquid`Drone wrote: I was told they would be released tomorrow so stop waiting if you heard this from a blizzard person, wouldn't they have changed their website? | ||
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28665 Posts
either way, if I share any information regarding this tourney it will always be true. | ||
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nvnplatypus
Netherlands1300 Posts
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
On December 02 2004 14:07 SCFraser wrote: Mondi v Testie should be close same with Beast vs Day Other than that.. Veg, Trek and Fish winners? although any of them could go either way.. especially if froz practices lots. considering its beasts tvz vs days zvt i think day will win, not even that close. veg can beat zelotito. fisheye should beat froz but i dunno. the other 2 are really close imo. | ||
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raidern_br
Brazil610 Posts
T_T i think that since they took out the 'tentative' thing of hellghost's nick, he must be confirmed, am i right? | ||
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EnDeR_
Spain2688 Posts
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wAt-74
United States137 Posts
On December 02 2004 15:46 EnDeR_ wrote: How come neither rekrul nor eri have a mu vote? are they not playing or something? Because they're alternates, those 2 will only play if someone cant make it. Too bad though, it would be great to see them all play | ||
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nvnplatypus
Netherlands1300 Posts
On December 02 2004 15:39 raidern_br wrote: i think that since they took out the 'tentative' thing of hellghost's nick, he must be confirmed, am i right? Yep. | ||
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Kobayashi
Portugal1970 Posts
On December 02 2004 14:07 SCFraser wrote: Mondi v Testie should be close same with Beast vs Day Other than that.. Veg, Trek and Fish winners? although any of them could go either way.. especially if froz practices lots. mondi vs testie should be really close then Day > Beast Zelotito > Veg (aparently Veg is not playing that well right now, from what u can read in other threads) Trek > HG Fisheye > Froz | ||
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Kobayashi
Portugal1970 Posts
Q: Which bugs aren't permitted? What other things aren't permitted? Peon-unit stacking attacks, observers over towers, allied mines, Terran building crushes of interceptors, and floating unit bug exploits are not permitted. Also any use of hacks, cheats, or 3rd party programs will result in an automatic disqualification. what the hell are "peon-unit stacking attacks"? | ||
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hasuwar
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We will be releasing the three StarCraft Mystery Maps tomorrow, December 3rd, in both UMS (Observer) and Melee versions. We apologize for the slight delay. lol I wonder if they'll have blizzard's signature poor resource placing | ||
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Pob
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On December 02 2004 04:03 wasted wrote: im kinda exited for the maps, i hope blizzard has learned a thing or two about map making, and don't give us stuff like Challenger or something I like challenger , anyway it was made before the game and patches were released , makers have over 6 years of knowledge behind them now .I don't see how you could make such a statement... | ||
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wasted
Germany1789 Posts
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NuclearAntelope
United States1369 Posts
On December 02 2004 16:09 Kobayashi wrote: From the event's faq: what the hell are "peon-unit stacking attacks"? remember the thing where the scvs pile on top of each other and annihiliate anything in their path? | ||
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cav
Pitcairn514 Posts
On December 02 2004 14:57 Liquid`Drone wrote: probably not the same people in charge of updating me and updating the website either way, if I share any information regarding this tourney it will always be true. i believe you %100 now  | ||
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eternalbliss
United States1035 Posts
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Amnesty
United States2054 Posts
On December 02 2004 17:25 NuclearAntelope wrote: remember the thing where the scvs pile on top of each other and annihiliate anything in their path? Say I send all my SCVs to mine at the same patch, then turn and attack a zealot or lings when they are close. Is that what they are talking about? becuase i've always done that and never thought of it as unfair. Nor has anyone complained. Is it the same thing, or different? | ||
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bigMommA
1985 Posts
Since when did Blizzard made observer versions of their maps? Blizzard really know what's up with their player selections and knowledge of map advancements. I have no doubt that they will release superb quality maps. | ||
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
On December 02 2004 17:48 Amnesty wrote: Say I send all my SCVs to mine at the same patch, then turn and attack a zealot or lings when they are close. Is that what they are talking about? becuase i've always done that and never thought of it as unfair. Nor has anyone complained. Is it the same thing, or different? Its different... this bug allows peons to travel long distances and attack while still stacked if you move to a mineral patch then attack, they unstack and attack at the same time, and the offending zealot/ling/whatever gets caught up on them and takes damage | ||
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eternalbliss
United States1035 Posts
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wAt-74
United States137 Posts
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
"Oh it's bifrost, let's pick Z!" "Oh it's gorky, let's pick T" ^_^? | ||
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taDa
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OhThatDang
United States4685 Posts
has team liquid even banned a blizzard forum member who we thought was a ghost? | ||
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MannerKiss
United States2398 Posts
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maleorderbride
United States2916 Posts
if you cant say, then is it a korean or a non-kor | ||
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ProudCappi
United States366 Posts
Well, not all of the maps are that bad, but only like 2 other besides LT are good. | ||
mrmin123
Korea (South)2971 Posts
since they're making a goddamn tournament out of these new maps, i'm expecting some more thought and effort and love put into these maps, and hopefully they'll be up to standards. i mean, i doubt they'd just whip out another Challenger and say 'WOAH NEW MAPZ lets have a tournie guyz' | ||
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Geval
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VdP]EpiphaNy
United Kingdom992 Posts
On December 02 2004 17:52 bigMommA wrote: "We will be releasing the three StarCraft Mystery Maps tomorrow, December 3rd, in both UMS (Observer) and Melee versions. We apologize for the slight delay." Since when did Blizzard made observer versions of their maps? Blizzard really know what's up with their player selections and knowledge of map advancements. I have no doubt that they will release superb quality maps. or maybe the delay is because they forgot completely and have some random employee working overtime tonight to quickly churn something out .my prediction is the maps won't be anything original or spectacular and will resemble many features of existing tried and tested pro maps, edit: but will also be relatively imbalanced | ||
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Amnesty
United States2054 Posts
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Osaka27149 Posts
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cav
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Beast_Bg
Bulgaria1623 Posts
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
On December 02 2004 21:38 Manifesto7 wrote: I think (know) youre all wrong. BWAHAHAHAHA its fun ain't it? | ||
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EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
On December 03 2004 01:48 Beast_Bg wrote: I hope I play Veg and Zelotito plays Day.It seems logical from the numbers anyway. 31 voted you vs Day, 25 voted you vs Veg. 29 voted Zelotito vs Day, 24 voted Zelotito vs Veg. Close, but I'd still think it would be you vs Day and Zelotito vs Veg. | ||
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EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
On December 02 2004 14:07 SCFraser wrote: Mondi v Testie should be close same with Beast vs Day Other than that.. Veg, Trek and Fish winners? although any of them could go either way.. especially if froz practices lots. I'm thinking... Mondi = Testie (this one will be too close to tell... if I had to pick, I would say Mondi though) Beast < Day Zelotito > Veg Trek > HellGhost Fisheye > Froz (again this one could be very close, and it would depend what kind've shape they're both in) | ||
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wasted
Germany1789 Posts
MAPS WILL BE OUT TODAY!!! (maybe) | ||
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Gnuym
Korea (South)129 Posts
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Veg
Canada2945 Posts
hey beast your #3 wcg, cant you pull something off to make it happen? | ||
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SoMuchBetter
Australia10606 Posts
i want to see beast vs veg as well | ||
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gravity
Australia1847 Posts
Damn you time zones! | ||
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{ToT}Strafe
Thailand7026 Posts
AND NO im not saying I should be there. But beast LoLZ! and then theres zelotito who sucks donkey vs terran but roxxxx pvz and pvp | ||
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EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
On December 03 2004 05:51 SoMuchBetter wrote: get all your friends to vote in that thread. i want to see beast vs veg as well Well, voting is technically over, but if Beast/Veg and maybe others submit the request to Blizzard, it might be switched around, it was a very close vote afterall. | ||
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EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
On December 03 2004 06:19 {ToT}Strafe wrote: europe doesnt have his best players! AND NO im not saying I should be there. But beast LoLZ! and then theres zelotito who sucks donkey vs terran but roxxxx pvz and pvp Reason behind Beast/Zelotito being on the Euro team were their WCG finishes. If they ever choose it based on height, you'd be in for sure though~ | ||
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maleorderbride
United States2916 Posts
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Beast_Bg
Bulgaria1623 Posts
On December 03 2004 05:37 Veg wrote: i would also prefer beast (TvT) than a TvP hey beast your #3 wcg, cant you pull something off to make it happen? I don't even know their e-mail.. | ||
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Beast_Bg
Bulgaria1623 Posts
On December 03 2004 06:19 {ToT}Strafe wrote: europe doesnt have his best players! AND NO im not saying I should be there. But beast LoLZ! and then theres zelotito who sucks donkey vs terran but roxxxx pvz and pvp me smart u stoopid | ||
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SojT
United States789 Posts
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maleorderbride
United States2916 Posts
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uiCk
Canada1925 Posts
On December 03 2004 03:30 EvilTeletubby wrote: I'm thinking... Mondi = Testie (this one will be too close to tell... if I had to pick, I would say Mondi though) Beast < Day Zelotito > Veg Trek > HellGhost Fisheye > Froz (again this one could be very close, and it would depend what kind've shape they're both in) veg >>>>>>>>>> zelotito | ||
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maareek
United States2042 Posts
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EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
On December 03 2004 11:53 maareek wrote: I thought, I haven't been following this that closely, that eri's list was 1/3rd of the vote, rek's list was 1/3rd of the vote, and the community's list was 1/3rd of the vote. I could be wrong, however. Anyway, I wouldn't expect the maps to come out until the time they walk out the door this afternoon. Perhaps, you are right though, I missed that part of the info, I thought it was based on votes only, but here is what it says: "Along with each of the team captains presenting their preferred match-ups, the final and most important part in deciding who will be playing who will be left to Brood War fans. Have your say by voting on what specific player matches you'd like to see in the StarCraft Forums. " Doesn't say anything about 1/3 1/3 1/3, but "most important part" was the vote... so I dunno. But with the Beast/Zelotito and Day/Veg votes so close, I'm sure if you guys all talked to Eri/Rek, that you could switch it around and get Beast vs Veg and Zelotito vs Day. So Veg and Beast PM Drone and Rek right away. ^^ | ||
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EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
Yeah I think you're right, I was thinking PvT was Zelotito's strong MU, but it's PvZ, yes? | ||
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
On December 03 2004 12:04 EvilTeletubby wrote: Yeah I think you're right, I was thinking PvT was Zelotito's strong MU, but it's PvZ, yes? i thought pvp was considered his strongest? | ||
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MaTRiX[SiN]
Sweden1282 Posts
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tfeign
United States2980 Posts
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wasted
Germany1789 Posts
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jtan
Sweden5891 Posts
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
On December 03 2004 12:31 tfeign wrote: According to zelotito: pvp > pvt > pvz he thinks his pvt is stronger than his pvz? -_- | ||
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EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
On December 03 2004 13:23 jtan wrote: Blizzard doesnt only delay their games, but also their map realease dates haha Well I would expect the maps to be released until near the end of the day (otherwise if they were ready and everything they would've been released yesterday), and do remember that Blizzard in the Pacific time zone, so their employees are all still at work. | ||
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jtan
Sweden5891 Posts
On December 03 2004 11:26 cav wrote: i cant stop refreshing the b.net news page. I know how it feels. There should be at least two F5 keys on a keybord-,.- | ||
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raidern_br
Brazil610 Posts
On December 03 2004 13:22 wasted wrote: ok, in 3/4 of the world Dec 3rd is over.... blizzard is in AMERICA man i dont remember in which american state, but there are states like california that are 3hs less then my current time, which is 6:35pm so maybe they'll release it at like 8pm or something | ||
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
On December 03 2004 13:35 raidern_br wrote: blizzard is in AMERICA man i dont remember in which american state, but there are states like california that are 3hs less then my current time, which is 6:35pm so maybe they'll release it at like 8pm or something its in california | ||
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maleorderbride
United States2916 Posts
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United States591 Posts
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United States1929 Posts
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Empyrean
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InFiNitY[pG]
Germany3474 Posts
On December 03 2004 16:07 This-is-not-a-smurf wrote: I hope these maps aren't like the blizz maps -.- they're terribly unbalanced, and the mineral placement looks like it was done by a drunk monkey. Maybe they're getting Rose.of.Dream to come in :O those maps are frm 1999 ... made before anyone knew anything about balanced maps basically | ||
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Day[9]
United States7366 Posts
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maleorderbride
United States2916 Posts
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Totoro
France479 Posts
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phiwha
United States158 Posts
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8882
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) maybe it's a zerg map? AT LAST I think that hawk eye isnt terran friendly, but blocking the hill with expo may lead to vicory (but toss can drop), hmm. astral eclipse my bets are: z>p, p>t, z=t | ||
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Totoro
France479 Posts
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Mora
Canada5235 Posts
It was very hard ! T_T | ||
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SonRK
United States126 Posts
) Time to test out these maps in pubbies ^^; | ||
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Cygnus
United States845 Posts
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wasted
Germany1789 Posts
Coulee by Mora larger version Hawkeye by Bill307 larger version Astral Eclipse by Bill307 larger version | ||
Twisted
Netherlands13554 Posts
the second one is most imbalanced map ever P>>>>>>T Z>>>>>>P TvZ seems about balanced I guess The third map looks ok, don't know about that one, I think p has an edge over t, and z over p. | ||
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Mora
Canada5235 Posts
any favors are yours . <3 | ||
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Twisted
Netherlands13554 Posts
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InFiNitY[pG]
Germany3474 Posts
-hawkeye: very cool map, lots of strategy, many expansions but all very vulnerable to drops and stuff. again terran-favoring i guess, they can like block the one choke top right or bottom left, expand twice and siege the opponents natural, so obviously we'll see a lot of dropping and air units on that map. I'm not sure about the sense of the middle area, if one player is able to expand their with such an open middle the game is pretty much over anyways. Also pvz seems impossible to win on that map, he can just double expand, secure the middle with tons of lurks and sunks and get 200 supply ultra/ling -astral eclipse: i would've made that mineral wall a little more than only 16, a zerg can double expand easily. very similar to bladestorm gameplaywise imo, except that pvz will be even harder without the islands, tvz and pvt will be fine i think, except that terran will have to kill the protoss rather early because he will never get more than 2 expansions, slow push is probably impossible with such an open middle | ||
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Canada76 Posts
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Pacifist
Israel1683 Posts
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worst.player
625 Posts
Hawkeye - looks like another t map. terran has 2 free expansions vs zerg and toss.. and 2 expos = terran will win most of the time. pvz looks decent, as toss gets 2 free expands (as well as zerg). however, zerg can easily contain and mass expo like infinity said. astral eclipse - pvt and tvz will be fine, except it seems that t > p a little bit, as terran has 2 free bases and toss needs to be up 1 base to compete with terran. because of this, toss will need to expand to another main to spread out terran's army (but the main will be close to terran army...) should be cool pvt's and tvz though. pvz - infinity covered that as well. oh well. at least it's not a lt tourney. | ||
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coulthard.
Greece200 Posts
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oj-
United States368 Posts
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Bill307
Canada9103 Posts
.I then brought Mora aboard, and don't regret doing so! I really look forward to seeing how games play out on his map (and of course my own as well ). | ||
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United States368 Posts
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mrmin123
Korea (South)2971 Posts
Coulee's expansions sorta look like flacid penises tho. ohnoe teenage hormones :[ | ||
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ProudCappi
United States366 Posts
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Geval
788 Posts
Coulee might be very interesting, and I can see lots of tactics on it | ||
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
Hawkeye = Looks ok Astral eclipse = Gaema gowon made zerg friendly -_-? | ||
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Mora
Canada5235 Posts
On December 03 2004 20:59 Bill307 wrote: I was asked personally by nvn / araxas .I then brought Mora aboard, and don't regret doing so! I really look forward to seeing how games play out on his map (and of course my own as well ). | ||
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Mora
Canada5235 Posts
On December 03 2004 20:13 worst.player wrote: Coulee sucks pvt. All terran needs to do is 12cc then go fact & port and just push right through the middle of the map (straight up). Toss needs to fly to carriers, but terran can just get wraiths to counter that. Infinity covered this map. Hawkeye - looks like another t map. terran has 2 free expansions vs zerg and toss.. and 2 expos = terran will win most of the time. pvz looks decent, as toss gets 2 free expands (as well as zerg). however, zerg can easily contain and mass expo like infinity said. astral eclipse - pvt and tvz will be fine, except it seems that t > p a little bit, as terran has 2 free bases and toss needs to be up 1 base to compete with terran. because of this, toss will need to expand to another main to spread out terran's army (but the main will be close to terran army...) should be cool pvt's and tvz though. pvz - infinity covered that as well. oh well. at least it's not a lt tourney. I think u may be overestimating Terran on this map. Terran can push all he wants, and he's not going to hurt the protoss island. in addition to that, he will *literally* have to push across the whole map to kill the protoss. the protoss can drop on either side of his main base, 1 path leads into the middle, and the other path leads to the middle/the 'entrance' to the terran main. This allows protoss to counter and/or flank very nicely. In addition, the middle is pretty open making flanking even easier. Infact, i was much more worried for Terran than Protoss in TvP on my map. I think that p has a slight advantage. In any case, i think that this map does not *greatly* swing either way. Its not a Gorky Island, which is all that really matters. | ||
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FrEaK[S.sIR]
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Nal_Testie
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:D:D | ||
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
I played a pretty fun game on it but really.. It's suuuuuch a long walk to get.. Anywhere.. | ||
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vaj
Germany327 Posts
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Jim
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Frits
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Coulee: Looks beautiful, gotta love those minerals blocking the entrance, good thinking. Looks pretty balanced too, great work. (Seriously, this is one of the nicest looking maps I've ever seen. And I really think that matters.) I'd love to see some nice TvP's on this map. Hawkeye: Good balance ! Nice. Lots of space in the middle, great for protoss unit positioning. But still some walls to make pushing possible for T. I love it when big armies are able to move around without a lot of trouble, big battles kick ass. AstralEclipse: Also pretty nice. Don't really have much to say about it. I really like Coulee. | ||
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Mora
Canada5235 Posts
<3 | ||
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RamenStyle
United States1929 Posts
Coulee looks fun. The nat looks reminds me of isles of siren. | ||
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NeverTheEndlessWiz
Singapore827 Posts
On December 04 2004 17:15 RamenStyle wrote: For sure this maps are better than wcg maps. They could at least get those to replace them. Coulee looks fun. The nat looks reminds me of isles of siren. there is one prob i think; wcg requires 4 maps right? there are only 3 here....... o wait they can make a new map (prob island) then add it with these 3 maps and that will make up to 4 maps for wcg 05 =PP | ||
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Mora
Canada5235 Posts
On December 04 2004 17:15 RamenStyle wrote: For sure this maps are better than wcg maps. They could at least get those to replace them. Coulee looks fun. The nat looks reminds me of isles of siren. Isles of Siren was one of the influences on my map. Infact, in its original sketches, it looked alot *more* like isles of siren. | ||
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Bill307
Canada9103 Posts
Maybe until the tourney is finished, in case any imbalances emerge for us to fix before submitting them. | ||
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Carnac
Germany / USA16648 Posts
On December 04 2004 18:09 Teroru wrote: Carnac, we are unable to disclose that information at this time. which is prolly already enough of an answer to my question ^_^ | ||
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
On December 04 2004 19:34 cav wrote: make a map where the starting positions are min onlys. that would be cool and shitty at the same time. Protoss would probably dominate. Mass Zealots. | ||
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Pacifist
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Famouzze
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btw i played some games on coulee and hawkeye tonight, beautiful maps, very fun and relatively well balanced. edit: im confused about teroru's responses to this thread. is teroru the same person as mora? -_- | ||
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Twisted
Netherlands13554 Posts
On December 05 2004 02:50 Famouzze wrote: edit: im confused about teroru's responses to this thread. is teroru the same person as mora? -_- yes =] | ||
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raidern_br
Brazil610 Posts
but terrans and maybe probes can go out of the 'island' really early in coulee doing the supply trick.. | ||
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United States1936 Posts
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United States38 Posts
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Honk2000
Germany698 Posts
On December 05 2004 09:09 raidern_br wrote: i dont know if anyone mentioned it before but terrans and maybe probes can go out of the 'island' really early in coulee doing the supply trick.. zerg can do it as well. gorush did it on requiem once i think. | ||
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0x64
Finland4555 Posts
nice maps Bill!Teroru did good job too--;; | ||
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SojT
United States789 Posts
thanks anyway | ||
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Geval
788 Posts
On December 04 2004 20:34 cav wrote: mass lings > mass zeals duh not without speed vs good zealot/probe micro | ||
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Bill307
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BroOd
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asticx
China100 Posts
BTW: Does anyone know the members of team Asia ? | ||
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nvnplatypus
Netherlands1300 Posts
On December 06 2004 21:37 BroOd wrote: I can't find the maps on the page. I see where they're listed, and it says "Download observer version - Download melee version" but neither of them are links to anything. http://www.battle.net/ Just download them from the news post there until this issue gets fixed tomorrow. | ||
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gulii
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nvnplatypus
Netherlands1300 Posts
On December 06 2004 22:41 nvnplatypus wrote: http://www.battle.net/ Just download them from the news post there until this issue gets fixed tomorrow. They're fixed now: http://www.battle.net/scevents/sc-mm-news.html | ||
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BroOd
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Beast_Bg
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Veg
Canada2945 Posts
2pm eastern = 8pm paris time T_t you same time zone? or add an hour maybe | ||
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28665 Posts
bulgaria is +2 gmt or something? I don't really know but hopefully you do | ||
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