


Protoss was underused so they made an imba map Cenral Plains to increase P's winning rate

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Hazard
Norway594 Posts
![]() ![]() ![]() Protoss was underused so they made an imba map Cenral Plains to increase P's winning rate ![]() | ||
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ArvickHero
10387 Posts
On November 17 2010 02:36 OpticalShot wrote: Show nested quote + On November 17 2010 01:48 andrewlt wrote: On November 16 2010 22:10 Holgerius wrote: On November 16 2010 21:42 kamikami wrote: On November 16 2010 16:09 okum wrote: On November 16 2010 16:04 BLinD-RawR wrote: maybe for round 2 they'll fix protoss imba on central plains.... Let's hope so. It's good that protoss is having a resurgence, but guaranteed mirror matchups get boring quickly (even if some of the games on Central Plains have been really good). If they fixed terran imba in GrandLine and so on then I'm glad to accept that they fix Central Plain. You get my point. Grand Line is not even close to being as imbalanced as Central Plains. What exactly makes Central Plains Protoss imba? Too many expansions close together? I thought that benefited zerg more? Lots of minerals! and also the "safe" mineral-only backyard expo. every base has a gas in Central Plains lol.. In PvT, Protoss can easily heavily outexpo the Terran and do a massive carrier switch to achieve critical mass very quickly.. or just simply go Best style and drown the enemy in waves of unlimited units. In PvZ Protoss can go 1 Gate FE and also get 4 gas bases extremely easily. | ||
Cambium
United States16368 Posts
On November 17 2010 03:54 ArvickHero wrote: Show nested quote + On November 17 2010 02:36 OpticalShot wrote: On November 17 2010 01:48 andrewlt wrote: On November 16 2010 22:10 Holgerius wrote: On November 16 2010 21:42 kamikami wrote: On November 16 2010 16:09 okum wrote: On November 16 2010 16:04 BLinD-RawR wrote: maybe for round 2 they'll fix protoss imba on central plains.... Let's hope so. It's good that protoss is having a resurgence, but guaranteed mirror matchups get boring quickly (even if some of the games on Central Plains have been really good). If they fixed terran imba in GrandLine and so on then I'm glad to accept that they fix Central Plain. You get my point. Grand Line is not even close to being as imbalanced as Central Plains. What exactly makes Central Plains Protoss imba? Too many expansions close together? I thought that benefited zerg more? Lots of minerals! and also the "safe" mineral-only backyard expo. every base has a gas in Central Plains lol.. In PvT, Protoss can easily heavily outexpo the Terran and do a massive carrier switch to achieve critical mass very quickly.. or just simply go Best style and drown the enemy in waves of unlimited units. In PvZ Protoss can go 1 Gate FE and also get 4 gas bases extremely easily. There are min-only patches, but I don't think that's what he was referring to. lol@ 25 pvps... | ||
koreasilver
9109 Posts
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lastmotion
368 Posts
On November 16 2010 22:10 Holgerius wrote: Show nested quote + On November 16 2010 21:42 kamikami wrote: On November 16 2010 16:09 okum wrote: On November 16 2010 16:04 BLinD-RawR wrote: maybe for round 2 they'll fix protoss imba on central plains.... Let's hope so. It's good that protoss is having a resurgence, but guaranteed mirror matchups get boring quickly (even if some of the games on Central Plains have been really good). If they fixed terran imba in GrandLine and so on then I'm glad to accept that they fix Central Plain. You get my point. Grand Line is not even close to being as imbalanced as Central Plains. A professional BW Terran player should have maps disadvantaged against him. Otherwise, its not fair for other race players. Especially in the case of PvT since Protoss is the race that has won the least in BW and Terran the race that won the most in BW. | ||
aimaimaim
Philippines2167 Posts
On November 16 2010 15:56 BLinD-RawR wrote: Congrats to SKT for a perfect round! + Show Spoiler + @#$%^&*&^%$#$%^&*())(*&%^ DIEEEEEEEEEEEE hater's tears are awesome weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee :D | ||
Zona
40426 Posts
Bo7's mean that a second stringer winning a match against another second stringing is as important as your star player winning a match against the opposing team's ace. SKT's second line has really delivered when it mattered. Oh and major thanks to moktira for getting the games up so quickly. | ||
scDeluX
Canada1341 Posts
Stork proxying 3 gate just outside jaedong nat = awesomeness Jaedong early gg = LOL wow I miss my BW days | ||
seRapH
United States9718 Posts
On November 17 2010 10:09 ScDeluX wrote: Wow, Just watched ace match just wow, Stork proxying 3 gate just outside jaedong nat = awesomeness Jaedong early gg = LOL wow I miss my BW days lol you're in the wrong thread XD | ||
aimaimaim
Philippines2167 Posts
On November 17 2010 10:09 ScDeluX wrote: Wow, Just watched ace match just wow, Stork proxying 3 gate just outside jaedong nat = awesomeness Jaedong early gg = LOL wow I miss my BW days woot .. that was still an awesome match nevertheless :D | ||
yoonyoon
Korea (South)1065 Posts
Instead, I'll just keep on hoping that JD does well and ACE do so badly that they fall below Hwaseung. | ||
scrubtastic
1166 Posts
On November 17 2010 12:07 yoonyoon wrote: I think I'm going to quit praying for Hwaseung to win. Instead, I'll just keep on hoping that JD does well and ACE do so badly that they fall below Hwaseung. What? Wanting ACE to lose? DIE In nonfanboy news I feel pretty bad for Hwaseung, all the non-JD players are sadly inconsistent, lack of new good talent and the Bo7 format has really hurt their chances. Not sure what they can do though, besides recruit someone or pull a Hite Entus | ||
_Quasar_
Russian Federation4405 Posts
Joking - it's for me too sad how Oz looks. ACE seems at least to have some face of a team (and the perfect explanation for them being near the bottom is that they're primarily soldiers - and can't devote all of their time only to play I think...) Oz is just one-man band. They need something to change them into normal, self-confident team. | ||
_Quasar_
Russian Federation4405 Posts
- is there a difference in cannon timing of P between the build orders Nexus-Forge and Forge-Nexus. I mean, when Protoss wants to be safe and puts a Forge right after Pylon, and then puts Nexus, seeing that 11pool - does he get cannons in the same time as if he went Nexus-Forge-Cannons? In my calculations it was the same timing... but what's exactly? | ||
nayumi
Australia6499 Posts
On November 17 2010 13:17 scrubtastic wrote: Show nested quote + On November 17 2010 12:07 yoonyoon wrote: I think I'm going to quit praying for Hwaseung to win. Instead, I'll just keep on hoping that JD does well and ACE do so badly that they fall below Hwaseung. What? Wanting ACE to lose? DIE In nonfanboy news I feel pretty bad for Hwaseung, all the non-JD players are sadly inconsistent, lack of new good talent and the Bo7 format has really hurt their chances. Not sure what they can do though, besides recruit someone or pull a Hite Entus KT Oz? Hwaseung Rolster? D: | ||
Biff The Understudy
France7842 Posts
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_Quasar_
Russian Federation4405 Posts
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Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
On November 17 2010 18:38 nayumi wrote: Show nested quote + On November 17 2010 13:17 scrubtastic wrote: On November 17 2010 12:07 yoonyoon wrote: I think I'm going to quit praying for Hwaseung to win. Instead, I'll just keep on hoping that JD does well and ACE do so badly that they fall below Hwaseung. What? Wanting ACE to lose? DIE In nonfanboy news I feel pretty bad for Hwaseung, all the non-JD players are sadly inconsistent, lack of new good talent and the Bo7 format has really hurt their chances. Not sure what they can do though, besides recruit someone or pull a Hite Entus KT Oz? Hwaseung Rolster? D: Just call it KT (steam)Rollster. | ||
endy
Switzerland8970 Posts
On November 17 2010 18:15 _Quasar_ wrote: BTW: watching Jaedong vs Best game (Jaedong went 11 pool, almost the 12pool that i predicted lol) made me go thoughtful on the following point: - is there a difference in cannon timing of P between the build orders Nexus-Forge and Forge-Nexus. I mean, when Protoss wants to be safe and puts a Forge right after Pylon, and then puts Nexus, seeing that 11pool - does he get cannons in the same time as if he went Nexus-Forge-Cannons? In my calculations it was the same timing... but what's exactly? The difference is simple, you build a forge earlier, so you're able to build cannons earlier. | ||
scDeluX
Canada1341 Posts
On November 17 2010 10:33 seRapH wrote: lol you're in the wrong thread XD oops my bad, must have confused Bisu and stork yesterday idk. | ||
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