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regerstreen
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada57 Posts
August 28 2010 10:27 GMT
#1381
TaekBangLeeSsang is long obsolete. There is just Lee
{ToT}ColmA
Profile Joined November 2007
Japan3260 Posts
August 28 2010 10:27 GMT
#1382
at least this is the last time i will wake up earlier for a final in bw -_-;;
The only virgins in kpop left are the fans
Jakalo
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Latvia2350 Posts
August 28 2010 10:27 GMT
#1383
I STILLBELIEVE IN YOU! PULL THROUGH!
Nostalgia is not as good as it used to be.
Mortician
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Bulgaria2332 Posts
August 28 2010 10:27 GMT
#1384
On August 28 2010 19:27 ForTenPoints wrote:
It's like a 3 hatch hydra bust in ZvP...there's really no way to scout it. You just have to have game sense and get lucky.

Personally I thought Jaedong should have 5 pooled or 9 pooled since odd eye is such a favorable map for 14cc.


It is favorable, because the rush distances are long i.e. he could have stopped it, especially since he scouted early
"If anything, the skill cap in sc2 is higher [than sc1] because there are a lot more things you can do at one given time. " darmousseh
Nouar
Profile Joined May 2009
France3270 Posts
August 28 2010 10:27 GMT
#1385
These finals are a total letdown atm. I believe jd played too much zvt in 1/4 and 1/2 and flash had him covered :s
Fuck.
NoiR
dennisvreyes
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
175 Posts
August 28 2010 10:27 GMT
#1386
WOW. FLASH IS SO AHEAD.
JD IS PLAYING THE PREVIOUS GAME.
I HOPE GAME 345 GOES JD! LETS GO!
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
August 28 2010 10:28 GMT
#1387
On August 28 2010 19:25 alffla wrote:
umm so how is zerg supposed to defend this ..stuff

Well not double expoing while you expect Flash to sit quietly in his base will help.

Adding lings and lurkers to your hydra army vs the pure goliaths would help as well.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
cablesc
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1540 Posts
August 28 2010 10:28 GMT
#1388
Making goliaths is a useful skill toi have.
Slayers Forever! Rip. :( - Not the eSports organizer, that's CableStarcraft.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8514 Posts
August 28 2010 10:28 GMT
#1389
god damn
if flash wins the next game , this final will be almoust as short as JD vs Yellow[arnc]!
Embarassing
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
GeLaar
Profile Joined January 2003
2421 Posts
August 28 2010 10:28 GMT
#1390
On August 28 2010 19:24 lxginverse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2010 19:24 GeLaar wrote:
Wow, Jaedong just plain sucks.


no, its just that Flash is too good atm


No, it really is Jaedong sucking.
Brood War is alive and well.
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
August 28 2010 10:28 GMT
#1391
Honestly, I fairly certain that Flash won't let this slip after losing to Effort like he did. He seems to learn from his mistakes these days so seems like yet another disappointing finals.
johanes
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Czech Republic2229 Posts
August 28 2010 10:28 GMT
#1392
On August 28 2010 19:27 Censured wrote:
Ok, I don't understand BW. When I saw JD skipping mutas and going pure hydras I thought its gonna be one sided JD rape, but wtf goliath? Can somebody explain THIS to me?

there were 4 factories, usually there are 2, flash stopped scv production and didnt have academy, basically all-in
MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
August 28 2010 10:28 GMT
#1393
On August 28 2010 19:24 Mikilatov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2010 19:23 GTR wrote:
who seriously expected a +1 armor timing push.
incredible from flash.


I'm pretty sure he had +1 armor in the first game too.

I'm wondering what the math behind that is?

Given that goliaths have +1 armor, they have 125 hit points and hydras do 10 damage -1 for the armor, they normally need 13 hits to kill a goliath, but with armor they need 14 hits, so one extra hit.
Zerg can be so abusive sometimes | third member of the "loli is not a crime club" PM konadora to join!
insanet
Profile Joined January 2010
Peru439 Posts
August 28 2010 10:28 GMT
#1394
and just imagine what would have happened if JD didnt went 3hatch before pool

(TERRAN imba dont hurt me)
Assymptotic
Profile Joined February 2009
United States552 Posts
August 28 2010 10:28 GMT
#1395
On August 28 2010 19:27 Censured wrote:
Ok, I don't understand BW. When I saw JD skipping mutas and going pure hydras I thought its gonna be one sided JD rape, but wtf goliath? Can somebody explain THIS to me?



Jaedong double expanded and powered drones instead of making a hydra/lurker army.
So close, and yet so far
SC2Phoenix
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2814 Posts
August 28 2010 10:28 GMT
#1396
Atleast JD won in WCG : /
Who the fuck has a family of fucking trees? This song is so god damn stupid. Fuck you song, fuck you and your stupid trees. -itmeJP
Kazius
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Israel1456 Posts
August 28 2010 10:28 GMT
#1397
Flash won this with a superb sense of timing - no academy, no unnecessary buildings, just +1 mass goliaths to catch an over-expansive zerg before his lurker timing. JD could have switched to mutas (and finished flash with a backstab) and maybe a few lurkers instead of going to an early 4th... but again, Flash used his scouting info for his timing perfectly.

Jaedong is incredible on Fighting Spirit, so let's see if he mixes his game up a bit.
Friendship is like peeing yourself. Anyone can see it, but only you get that warm feeling.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 28 2010 10:28 GMT
#1398

On August 28 2010 19:25 alffla wrote:
umm so how is zerg supposed to defend this ..stuff

Guess. That's the only thing you can do, it's impossible to scout and when they move out it's too late. You need to guess out of like 25 different builds Terran can do with Zerg having no way to scout what it is.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
August 28 2010 10:28 GMT
#1399
just got back, can someone summarize the 2 games for me?
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
DMXD
Profile Joined February 2008
United States4064 Posts
August 28 2010 10:28 GMT
#1400
Well, Fighting Spirit is next.. So I think we can expect a more standard longer game.
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