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foxmeep
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia2337 Posts
August 28 2010 10:29 GMT
#1421
JD has to play this way to vs 14cc. If he plays safer, Flash will just eco-roll him late game anyways.
Mikilatov
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States3897 Posts
August 28 2010 10:29 GMT
#1422
On August 28 2010 19:28 538 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2010 19:27 Pvvned wrote:
well 3-0 to Flash

going to bed

Just consider how many times has everyone said that in the last few months :-p


haha, yeah really. An attitude like that would have missed you so many epic series.

Besides, even if they aren't the BEST GAMES EVER, they're still very interesting timing attacks by Flash.
♥ I used to lasso the shit out of your tournaments =( ♥ | Much is my hero. | zizi yO~ | Be Nice, TL.
KristianJS
Profile Joined October 2009
2107 Posts
August 28 2010 10:29 GMT
#1423
On August 28 2010 19:25 ArvickHero wrote:
This is starting to piss me off and seriously disappoint me. Jaedong/Flash rivalry finals are almost always the most disappointing shit ever, and I don't know why this is such a consistent theme in their finals.



It's like in that film Hero: the true battle is in their minds before the game starts. Whoever wins there just pushes out and wins at once.
You need to be 100% behind someone before you can stab them in the back
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
August 28 2010 10:29 GMT
#1424
Jaedong has a chance because the next two maps are pretty balanced
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
chennis
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Taiwan227 Posts
August 28 2010 10:29 GMT
#1425
Jaedong always goes for 3 hatch before pool on odd-eye 3...sigh.
Yggdrasil Leaf
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
221 Posts
August 28 2010 10:29 GMT
#1426
Flash - Turtle Master
"A person hears only what they understand" - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7232 Posts
August 28 2010 10:29 GMT
#1427
Jaedong hasn't drone scouted yet, I wouldn't be surprised if Flash takes advantage with some proxy rax.
日本語が分かりますか
ThePhan2m
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Norway2751 Posts
August 28 2010 10:29 GMT
#1428
power-failure incoming
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
August 28 2010 10:30 GMT
#1429
Jaedong lost it when he double expanded which meant less units... Flash push punished that... Too greedy play from Jaedong
Fenrax
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States5018 Posts
August 28 2010 10:30 GMT
#1430
So, they played 5 final games in a row now. Flash went 13/14 CC everytime and JD always was behind because he always 12 Hatches. Seems like someone just does not learn his lesson. He should have 9-Pooled in the first or second set.
Karalius
Profile Joined January 2008
Lithuania271 Posts
August 28 2010 10:30 GMT
#1431
On August 28 2010 19:28 Shatter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2010 19:27 tragedy wrote:
i dont understand this, i fail to see what flash does to win these games

jd was 4bases vs 2 bases, jd harrased with mutas etc, and just lost in 10 minute push
game 2 same exact thing, 10 minute push nothing to do with same food count?

this final is just about as boring as IEM finals, not fun to watch at all.
Because Flash attacks before the 2 extra bases really makes a difference but has a bigger army because JD invested in late game economy.

and if zerg doesnt invest into economy he has no chance of wining anyway? i really dont understand
p.s. im not a player i just watch sc for years now
Qwertify
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2531 Posts
August 28 2010 10:30 GMT
#1432
On August 27 2010 16:46 nayumi wrote:
all the maps are T favored lol

CJ Entusman #24
Tianx
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States1196 Posts
August 28 2010 10:30 GMT
#1433
This feels so much like Flash vs. Stork for Bacchus that first time. Wow everyone with an incredibly strong way of playing long macro games, forcing your opponent to practice long hours to counter it - and then BAM two timing pushes and a BBS spells doom.
Intrigue: "as i've said to many others your troubles in life may be directly correlated to your dirty protoss icon"
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
August 28 2010 10:30 GMT
#1434
So how many time do you need to lose JD, when you stop making 3 hatch builds against Flash, chit oh am I angry!
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
August 28 2010 10:30 GMT
#1435
flash being very agressive, to show all that complains about his turtling that he can be agressive as hell and win
BW is back
ForTenPoints
Profile Joined February 2009
United States140 Posts
August 28 2010 10:30 GMT
#1436
I'm a big JD fan but I have to admit, FLash's play is just amazing. I think a lot of people are missing the beauty of the timing attacks. There is a little bit of coincidence/luck/pre-game prep involved as well.

For example in game 2, JD was planning to hydra bust like he attempted vs light in the semifinals. If Flash turreted like light did, JD would have gained an advantage. But instead, Flash counters with his own push that comes before JD's.
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
August 28 2010 10:30 GMT
#1437
Seriously, this needs less 12 hatch and more 9 pool speed.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2142 Posts
August 28 2010 10:30 GMT
#1438
On August 28 2010 19:25 Itachii wrote:
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On August 28 2010 19:23 SmoKim wrote:
im starting to remember why i stopped watching korean BW 1 year ago

at least make it 3-1, enough with these one sided finals -,-'

but superb play by flash

yeah lets stop watching pro scene of greatest game of all time becouse most of the finals are 1 sided lately

Well, if he doesn't enjoy one sided beatings then he should probably stop watching live games and just go for recommended games later.
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
johanes
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Czech Republic2246 Posts
August 28 2010 10:30 GMT
#1439
On August 28 2010 19:29 Waxangel wrote:
It's pretty incredible how Flash was willing to completely disregard the possibility of Jaedong going for lurkers; in terms of both strategic thinking and having the balls to ignore such a dangerous possibility

yep, but zergs usually get lurks pretty late if they spot golis
Sewi
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Germany1697 Posts
August 28 2010 10:30 GMT
#1440
On August 28 2010 19:25 krndandaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2010 19:24 Sewi wrote:
On August 28 2010 19:22 Coulthard wrote:
very bad played by jD


no. he did the right counter. going mutas would have been like typing gg right away.
the +1 armor really made a difference for flash here imo.
also, some earlier sunkens could have hold flash back for at least some time to prepare for a nice flank


what jd needed was less drones, better positioning/flank, faster sunken.


exactly, but the problem is that JD scouted it too late, which isnt his fail. Flash just did a good job covering his base, not letting lings in, force awy scouting OLs etc.
When JD realised how many Goliaths flash had, he already was on that many drones and all he could do was hoping to crush the first attack to come back. therefor his sunkens were too late and he had too few hydras.
"Well, things were going ok until he lost all his stuff" - Tasteless, 17.02.2016
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