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[MSL] Semi-Final B: Light vs Jaedong - Page 87

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Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
August 21 2010 06:41 GMT
#1721
On August 21 2010 15:34 Kazius wrote:
You know what guys? If this series teaches ME something, it is that EffOrt is equal to JD in everything but his "aura". People are afraid of JD and hence do dumber stuff in hopes of catching him off-guard, but when both are faced with an opponent that they can't out-manage, they become Kwanro. I kinda liked JD before this series, but his game style once he doesn't go for his sexy management game is like Shine's... a player worthy of loathing and nothing more.

... talk about disillusionment.

You kinda remind me of this.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=88342
JD did what won. It's not always pretty, but it works.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
August 21 2010 06:41 GMT
#1722
On August 21 2010 15:39 Yxes2211 wrote:
why is everyone bashing zergs for early aggression >.< Effort understood that early aggression was the key to victory in the OSL, and JD understood it here >.< I mean, its not like JD and Effort didn't attempt to play lategame, they did, and they lost. It's not like they were gonna just keep using a tactic that didn't work, come on. They did what was necessary to win. Everyone gives aggressive zergs crap for being cheesy, and is no difference that zergs crying about mech imba.

Ready to take crap for this comment lol


Do you remember when Flash 7 raxed Jaedong in Ever OSL? People went nuts...
LuigiNMario
Profile Joined April 2010
United States456 Posts
August 21 2010 06:41 GMT
#1723
On August 21 2010 15:41 shadesofkarma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2010 15:39 Yxes2211 wrote:
why is everyone bashing zergs for early aggression >.< Effort understood that early aggression was the key to victory in the OSL, and JD understood it here >.< I mean, its not like JD and Effort didn't attempt to play lategame, they did, and they lost. It's not like they were gonna just keep using a tactic that didn't work, come on. They did what was necessary to win. Everyone gives aggressive zergs crap for being cheesy, and is no difference that zergs crying about mech imba.

Ready to take crap for this comment lol


People want to see epic 30+ minute games and feel cheated out of what could have been an epic finale to a great series.



^^
When there's Flash there's a way.
Arite
Profile Joined April 2010
United States218 Posts
August 21 2010 06:42 GMT
#1724
You know, all these cheese complaints really show how much people take the MSL more importantly than WCG.
Jakalo
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Latvia2350 Posts
August 21 2010 06:42 GMT
#1725
On August 21 2010 15:41 Savant wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2010 15:33 shadesofkarma wrote:
On August 21 2010 15:32 ilj.psa wrote:
On August 21 2010 15:25 Monkeyshark wrote:
On August 21 2010 15:21 AppleTart wrote:
On August 21 2010 15:20 Monkeyshark wrote:
In my heart, Light won today. I got nothing against Jaedong but kekekeke.


after double infested CC i dont think you can even say that


Maybe some people don't like to see bm from big advantage, you know. I enjoyed game 2 and 3, it didn't matter who would win those games because it was exciting as hell but they other 3 I can't say the same.

hm dunno if your saying it was "bm" from jaedong. but it was strategy nothing with bm, he needed to get those CC's to cut Lights economy and proceed to macro. i dont think JD woudl had even won the games if it wasn't for the queens


Not really for bm I think but more to play mind games with Light and make him cry.


So abusing a clearly defeated opponent for your ego is good manners? Doing that after losing 2 straight-up games is just bad taste. He's not getting a friend in Light and he's not getting a fan in me either. Jaedong should put his competitiveness in perspective.


what lol? good manners?

MUAHAHAHA
Nostalgia is not as good as it used to be.
LuigiNMario
Profile Joined April 2010
United States456 Posts
August 21 2010 06:43 GMT
#1726
On August 21 2010 15:41 Lebesgue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2010 15:39 Yxes2211 wrote:
why is everyone bashing zergs for early aggression >.< Effort understood that early aggression was the key to victory in the OSL, and JD understood it here >.< I mean, its not like JD and Effort didn't attempt to play lategame, they did, and they lost. It's not like they were gonna just keep using a tactic that didn't work, come on. They did what was necessary to win. Everyone gives aggressive zergs crap for being cheesy, and is no difference that zergs crying about mech imba.

Ready to take crap for this comment lol


Do you remember when Flash 7 raxed Jaedong in Ever OSL? People went nuts...



I think lings are very cheap and more cost efficient that marines in all fronts during early game.
It's not like terran has anything like a sunken colony.
When there's Flash there's a way.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
August 21 2010 06:44 GMT
#1727
Heh. No TvT finals after all. GO JAEDONG
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
ZavikZyke
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States382 Posts
August 21 2010 06:45 GMT
#1728
Flash versus Jaedong HYPE!!!
flash will win 3-0. there i said it
Hoejja is Bonjwa
shadesofkarma
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Romania708 Posts
August 21 2010 06:45 GMT
#1729
On August 21 2010 15:41 Savant wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2010 15:33 shadesofkarma wrote:
On August 21 2010 15:32 ilj.psa wrote:
On August 21 2010 15:25 Monkeyshark wrote:
On August 21 2010 15:21 AppleTart wrote:
On August 21 2010 15:20 Monkeyshark wrote:
In my heart, Light won today. I got nothing against Jaedong but kekekeke.


after double infested CC i dont think you can even say that


Maybe some people don't like to see bm from big advantage, you know. I enjoyed game 2 and 3, it didn't matter who would win those games because it was exciting as hell but they other 3 I can't say the same.

hm dunno if your saying it was "bm" from jaedong. but it was strategy nothing with bm, he needed to get those CC's to cut Lights economy and proceed to macro. i dont think JD woudl had even won the games if it wasn't for the queens


Not really for bm I think but more to play mind games with Light and make him cry.


So abusing a clearly defeated opponent for your ego is good manners? Doing that after losing 2 straight-up games is just bad taste. He's not getting a friend in Light and he's not getting a fan in me either. Jaedong should put his competitiveness in perspective.


Your right. Trying to gain a psychological advantage with innovative tactics in an important series is clearly bad mannered.
LuigiNMario
Profile Joined April 2010
United States456 Posts
August 21 2010 06:45 GMT
#1730
On August 21 2010 15:44 Kenpachi wrote:
Heh. No TvT finals after all. GO JAEDONG


If JD cheeses even 1 game, i'll bash on him for the rest of my bw life. hehehe
When there's Flash there's a way.
FireGuyX
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1712 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-21 06:47:30
August 21 2010 06:46 GMT
#1731
heh those early cheesy aggression tactics won't work on Flash.
Flash, ForGG, and Movie fan.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
August 21 2010 06:47 GMT
#1732
Great, so now both sides are whining. ''Stupid Zergs and their cheesy ling all-ins''. ''Well, screw you and your gay mech imba''.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
LuigiNMario
Profile Joined April 2010
United States456 Posts
August 21 2010 06:47 GMT
#1733
On August 21 2010 15:46 FireGuyX wrote:
heh those early aggression tactics won't work on Flash.


I can understand that flash's senses are beyond comprehension, but against early aggression without a good wall in, is :D;;;
When there's Flash there's a way.
FearDarkness
Profile Joined February 2009
United States519 Posts
August 21 2010 06:48 GMT
#1734
On August 21 2010 15:46 FireGuyX wrote:
heh those early cheesy aggression tactics won't work on Flash.


Depends. Flash did 14CC his way to 3-0ing Jaedong.
Can't spell Voidrays without Idra
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
August 21 2010 06:48 GMT
#1735
On August 21 2010 15:47 Holgerius wrote:
Great, so now both sides are whining. ''Stupid Zergs and their cheesy ling all-ins''. ''Well, screw you and your gay mech imba''.

We need to find a way to incorporate protoss.
That is, as soon as Bisu and Stork find their magical S class power.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
King K. Rool
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada4408 Posts
August 21 2010 06:48 GMT
#1736
On August 21 2010 15:41 Savant wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2010 15:33 shadesofkarma wrote:
On August 21 2010 15:32 ilj.psa wrote:
On August 21 2010 15:25 Monkeyshark wrote:
On August 21 2010 15:21 AppleTart wrote:
On August 21 2010 15:20 Monkeyshark wrote:
In my heart, Light won today. I got nothing against Jaedong but kekekeke.


after double infested CC i dont think you can even say that


Maybe some people don't like to see bm from big advantage, you know. I enjoyed game 2 and 3, it didn't matter who would win those games because it was exciting as hell but they other 3 I can't say the same.

hm dunno if your saying it was "bm" from jaedong. but it was strategy nothing with bm, he needed to get those CC's to cut Lights economy and proceed to macro. i dont think JD woudl had even won the games if it wasn't for the queens


Not really for bm I think but more to play mind games with Light and make him cry.


So abusing a clearly defeated opponent for your ego is good manners? Doing that after losing 2 straight-up games is just bad taste. He's not getting a friend in Light and he's not getting a fan in me either. Jaedong should put his competitiveness in perspective.
I don't think Jaedong really cares about getting a friend in Light.

And "abusing"? That's going a bit far. Queens were part of his strategy; they were there for both shock value and for actual game-play value (cut in half how long it takes to kill a CC).

And it worked.

The way you put it, it's like you'd hate every trashtalker that ever existed in the history of sports.

There's no way in hell you can expect competitors to always remain mannered towards each other.
LuigiNMario
Profile Joined April 2010
United States456 Posts
August 21 2010 06:48 GMT
#1737
On August 21 2010 15:47 Holgerius wrote:
Great, so now both sides are whining. ''Stupid Zergs and their cheesy ling all-ins''. ''Well, screw you and your gay mech imba''.



You have to understand it's Early game vs Late game....
When there's Flash there's a way.
TriniMasta
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1323 Posts
August 21 2010 06:48 GMT
#1738
whew this is what a lot closer than I thought...
정명훈 FIGHTING!!! Play both T and P.
DarkMatter_
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada1774 Posts
August 21 2010 06:49 GMT
#1739
On August 21 2010 15:46 FireGuyX wrote:
heh those early cheesy aggression tactics won't work on Flash.

Is that why Effort and Jaedong combined beat Flash in 4 Bo5s primarily with early aggression?
DatTheMighty
Profile Joined March 2009
Vietnam122 Posts
August 21 2010 06:49 GMT
#1740
To all the newbs complaining about jaedongs play please watch this game


a better terran woulda won in light's situation (I.E. Flash). lights been around these leagues since the dinosaur age if hes any good he woulda made a final long ago. focusing all your energy doing ur own strategy and not contemplating what the opponent is doing doesnt make you a winning player. Notice how in game 3 jaedong did a fake hydra all in? light had jack shit and didn't even bother putting up a bunker, jaedong prolly thought how dumb of him to fake when he woulda prolly won doing what he was trying to fake lol. light had it coming to him in the ace match, the series vs kwanroll a couple of seasons back where he loss to like all in ling rushes i dont know how many times taught him nothing.
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