Game 1: Watch if you have time or if you like the players, a few too many mistakes to really recommend. Game 2: Not worth watching... unless you like watching fail. Game 3: Not recommended. Game 4: Pretty good game, recommended.
epic night. TAEKBANGLEESSANG . I am looking forward to see how Flash does on the zerg ownage map and Stork vs Kal will be fun. Bisu and JD will win of course
On August 04 2010 17:56 SuperJongMan wrote: Bisu can elim, I don't mind but if he does Elim, let Hyuk rofl over Flash.. plz. Bisu cant win anyways. It's the OSL. Jaedong's gonna win it all obv.
It can be a Jaedong vs Bisu Bo5. Don't tell me you don't want that. Unless Bisu has some serious problems with his play today, he should be able to crush Action. Hope Hyuk, Jaedong, and Stork win as well. Flash will probably beat Hyuk though. Edit: oh wait, map imba. Hyuk might have a chance after all.
On August 04 2010 18:19 Mascherano wrote: So excited to see Bisu play pvz, he's only been doing pvp and pvt recently Oh, and JD, plz stop being lazy and make more than just mutas, k ty.
Wait it's a ZvZ. If it gets to the point where he can just make mutas, I think the game is probably already over!
was going to make an op with predictions last night but couldn't be bothered, here we go:
bisu > action - bisu's PvZ is ridiculous, <3 action but the map is protoss imba flash > hyuk - map is ridiculously imbalanced but flash'll clearly come up with some build to counter hyuk, gimmicky/cheesy or otherwise hydra > jaedong - hydra just needs one win, a jaedong loss and he's out, 4 pool vs 12 hatch hilarity possible stork > kal - stork wins and he's through, kal loses and he's out, although stork's not won a PvP against anyone good since forever i can see kal choking
After watching Flash's last game vs.. Hero was it? I'm disgusted with him and his 'play style'. I hope he gets eliminated from osl, msl and chokes hard in proleague vs skt. Twitchy turtle bastard!
I have a feeling Flash is gonna proxy rax bunker rush Just feeling it XD
And i swear to god if Hydra 4 pools, if gonna by a plane ticket, fly to Korea and beat his ass lol If JD loses today at least make it non cheese related D8
Man why did Fantasy have to go 0-2 D: now i have to choose between him and stork D:
On August 04 2010 18:28 Mascherano wrote: After watching Flash's last game vs.. Hero was it? I'm disgusted with him and his 'play style'. I hope he gets eliminated from osl, msl and chokes hard in proleague vs skt. Twitchy turtle bastard!
On August 04 2010 18:19 Mascherano wrote: So excited to see Bisu play pvz, he's only been doing pvp and pvt recently Oh, and JD, plz stop being lazy and make more than just mutas, k ty.
I'm also hyped to watch Bisu in a PvZ. He needs a confidence boost going into this weekend.
On August 04 2010 18:28 Mascherano wrote: After watching Flash's last game vs.. Hero was it? I'm disgusted with him and his 'play style'. I hope he gets eliminated from osl, msl and chokes hard in proleague vs skt. Twitchy turtle bastard!
Unfortunately, Bisu's corsair stopped to kill an overlord intead of racing forward to scout out Action's build order.
Cannons not up in time, though he pulls a lot of probes and is holding out for now . . . Action not very aggressive there, Bisu manages to hold the front with significant probe losses, but still even on food.
Corsairs being realyl annoying, action with a finished lair at bottom left now.
Speedlots strike in bottom left, force drones to pull for a minute, but Bisu loses quite a few zealots (5-ish) for a hydra or two and now doesn't have much ground forces.
Mutas getting in some nice HT sniping now at 12, while Bisu pushes again with as zlot archon sair HT force vs. hydralurk, gets off some brutal storms but is repelled.
Bisu taking 12 now, Action taking his 4th base at 6:00.
Hey guess what people whining about lag. Screw you. It's not me, I've said that, you keep on whining, you're retarded. Now it's time to just watch Bisu rape this noob without interruptions.
On August 04 2010 18:58 Mystlord wrote: Hey guess what people whining about lag. Screw you. It's not me, I've said that, you keep on whining, you're retarded. Now it's time to just watch Bisu rape this noob without interruptions.
On August 04 2010 18:58 Mystlord wrote: Hey guess what people whining about lag. Screw you. It's not me, I've said that, you keep on whining, you're retarded. Now it's time to just watch Bisu rape this noob without interruptions.
Don't let a few discourage you. The majority appretiates what you do greatly.
On August 04 2010 19:01 alffla wrote: lol wtf action trying to counter bisus nat..
Yeah, so bad t__t Lemme just let your whole army barrel down on my base while I counter at your nat and run into cannons, after having lost most of my mutas taking potshots at probes.
On August 04 2010 19:02 purpose wrote: Can someone sum up the game, why did Bisu win, did he play good, did action play bad, or could he just no keep up with Bisu micro/macro etc?
Nice to see Bisu win, hope he can make it out of this group.
The important game is the last one though. I have never wanted anyone to win so badly as I want Stork to beat Kal.
Bisu barely defended an early 3 base hydra break (which caught him by surprise), losing a fair bit of probes and the few units he had while getting additional cannons up. After that, he went on the offensive and kept Action defending.
Action tech switched to mutas to try and snipe the ht's but lost them to storms :/ after that it was all downhill.
On August 04 2010 19:02 night terrors wrote: Can someone actually explain why bisu "played horribly"?
He had some templars out of position a decent number of times and things could have been a lot worse if action had good muta micro. He defended the initial hydras by the skin of his teeth. He didn't play horribly, but it wasn't particularly impressive either.
On August 04 2010 19:02 purpose wrote: Can someone sum up the game, why did Bisu win, did he play good, did action play bad, or could he just no keep up with Bisu micro/macro etc?
Nice to see Bisu win, hope he can make it out of this group.
The important game is the last one though. I have never wanted anyone to win so badly as I want Stork to beat Kal.
Bisu barely defended an early 3 base hydra break (which caught him by surprise), losing a fair bit of probes and the few units he had while getting additional cannons up. After that, he went on the offensive and kept Action defending.
Action tech switched to mutas to try and snipe the ht's but lost them to storms :/ after that it was all downhill.
On August 04 2010 18:58 Mystlord wrote: Hey guess what people whining about lag. Screw you. It's not me, I've said that, you keep on whining, you're retarded. Now it's time to just watch Bisu rape this noob without interruptions.
Don't let a few discourage you. The majority appretiates what you do greatly.
On August 04 2010 19:02 purpose wrote: Can someone sum up the game, why did Bisu win, did he play good, did action play bad, or could he just no keep up with Bisu micro/macro etc?
Nice to see Bisu win, hope he can make it out of this group.
The important game is the last one though. I have never wanted anyone to win so badly as I want Stork to beat Kal.
Bisu barely defended an early 3 base hydra break (which caught him by surprise), losing a fair bit of probes and the few units he had while getting additional cannons up. After that, he went on the offensive and kept Action defending.
Action tech switched to mutas to try and snipe the ht's but lost them to storms :/ after that it was all downhill.
On August 04 2010 18:58 Mystlord wrote: Hey guess what people whining about lag. Screw you. It's not me, I've said that, you keep on whining, you're retarded. Now it's time to just watch Bisu rape this noob without interruptions.
Did you ragequit your stream =o? Good thing banlings need confirmation
On August 04 2010 19:02 night terrors wrote: Can someone actually explain why bisu "played horribly"?
basically, some sloppiness all around. Suicided like 6 zealots into lurkers without observers, templars were often not protected and lagged behind the main army. I wouldn't say horrible, but not very crisp.
On August 04 2010 19:02 purpose wrote: Can someone sum up the game, why did Bisu win, did he play good, did action play bad, or could he just no keep up with Bisu micro/macro etc?
3 hatch hydra into mass drones and 3 well saturated bases with even supply and mut/lurk tech before obs are out into horrible muta control into waste of a zillion hyds into horrible decision making by splitting the forces and losing everything
On August 04 2010 18:58 Mystlord wrote: Hey guess what people whining about lag. Screw you. It's not me, I've said that, you keep on whining, you're retarded. Now it's time to just watch Bisu rape this noob without interruptions.
Did you ragequit your stream =o? Good thing banlings need confirmation
Yes I did ragequit my stream. Livestream was being gay for me anyway. For some reason it was lagging on livestream's end even though everything was fine for me. Mysterious~
So ustream has the CDN problem, and livestream just bugs out sometimes. Rofl.
Yes there can still be a tie breaker. Leta still has to play Action.
Action and Bisu need to lose their games. Leta goes 3-0 and the other three bash at each other until Effort bitches about his mouse when he's about to get killed by dark templars.
On August 04 2010 19:02 night terrors wrote: Can someone actually explain why bisu "played horribly"?
He had some templars out of position a decent number of times and things could have been a lot worse if action had good muta micro. He defended the initial hydras by the skin of his teeth. He didn't play horribly, but it wasn't particularly impressive either.
Yea, but it's really really hard not to get your templars sniped unless you continue making a decent amount of corsairs which Bisu didn't do. I thought he played really well despite the early disadvantage... (he was behind or equal on food for most of the game, which is usually bad position for P).
On August 04 2010 19:02 night terrors wrote: Can someone actually explain why bisu "played horribly"?
He had some templars out of position a decent number of times and things could have been a lot worse if action had good muta micro. He defended the initial hydras by the skin of his teeth. He didn't play horribly, but it wasn't particularly impressive either.
Yea, but it's really really hard not to get your templars sniped unless you continue making a decent amount of corsairs which Bisu didn't do. I thought he played really well despite the early disadvantage... (he was behind or equal on food for most of the game, which is usually bad position for P).
I'm not so much talking about his large wandering army; that is almost inevitable. I'm talking about specifically the attack on 7 o'clock that was sent packing. He lost the 1 HT (or maybe just barely kept it alive) and then sent the other by itself ahead to be killed. I'm not ragging on Bisu and I thought he played fine, but the man asked why some thought he played horribly. I don't think he did, but can see why some people are focusing a lot on what he did wrong. I also left out the sac'ing of the 5 zealots to try to harass 7 o'clock'.
On August 04 2010 19:15 JohnColtrane wrote: action played pretty well against leta the last 2(?) times they met, so im not going to bank on a tiebreaker
You know that if Bisu beats Effort and Action beats leta there will still be a tiebreaker ?
He blocked a 3 hatch hydra break-- WHICH IS A BITCH on ICCUP-- only after seeing the hydra's come up after killing one overlord.
Cuts probes for zealot/ht timing, but failed to do damage. Take a gamble with a quick third and with brilliant psionic storms, makes Action's muta's practically worthless compared to the money he put in it (remember, Action was poor-- 3hatchHydra=poor).
Follow it up with fourth and trade Action's nat for his mineral only = gg.
On August 04 2010 19:17 hku wrote: Bisu's play was top tier today.
He blocked a 3 hatch hydra break-- WHICH IS A BITCH on ICCUP-- only after seeing the hydra's come up after killing one overlord.
Cuts probes for zealot/ht timing, but failed to do damage. Take a gamble with a quick third and with brilliant psionic storms, makes Action's muta's practically worthless compared to the money he put in it (remember, Action was poor-- 3hatchHydra=poor).
Follow it up with fourth and trade Action's nat for his mineral only = gg.
I don't know if I would call his play top tear considering the first half of his play. He did a good job of capitalizing on Action's errors and stormed well. But nothing amazing there.
GG from Hyuk. Did Hyuk see the first group of marines move out with his lings? He only put down one sunk, I would have thought he'd put at least another before his mutas came out. I guess it wouldn't have mattered as they wouldn't have come up in time.
Tbh though I think it was more fault on Hyuk's part than huge skill on flash's part. Flash did a standard early pressure to keep the 2 hatch muta from getting to his base, and hyuk basically hyuked himself by making 1 sunken and relying on his first 6 mutalisks.
Jaedong-Hydra.With Effort on the bring of elimination Hydra should deliver.After all there should be an OSL finalist from CJ,this has become some kind of tradition..
On August 04 2010 19:07 Emon_ wrote: Tiebreakers between Bisu, Action and Effort? Epic! (Leta needs to win his game and Bisu lose against Effort)
Still most likely tiebreakers going to be Bisu, Leta and Action for 1st and 2nd place or just Action 1st place and Leta 2nd place without tiebreakers. Have to remember last day maps are played on Dreamliner.
On August 04 2010 19:22 Tyrio wrote: Not boding well for that KT-SKT finals lol
Thankfully, this map is not being played!
Thankfully Hyuk is not being played either. I think Coach Park has worked out that Hyuk's confidence is so far gone atm that he's better off going for almost anybody else.
On August 04 2010 19:23 sAAvior wrote: Flash should play protoss or zerg to give other guys a fighting chance...
that wasn't even Flash being good. that was just Hyuk being an idiot.
No, this is an extremely dangerous build that has beaten Flash before. Flash cut SCVs to get the perfect timing to counter it.
Looked like a perfectly standard sunken-forcing push off 2-rax to me (watching his supply counter I saw 2nd rax at 20, gas 22, acad 26). Maybe he cut SCVs to make turrets, but the reason he won was because Hyuk thought for some reason that he was going to forget standard ZvT and just try and get away with 1 sunken.
On August 04 2010 19:23 sAAvior wrote: Flash should play protoss or zerg to give other guys a fighting chance...
that wasn't even Flash being good. that was just Hyuk being an idiot.
Correct me if I am wrong, but Hyuk used Zero's fast muta build, which consists of early gas, low early game army into faster than standard muta timing, keeping around 8 muta alive to box Terran inside his base while the Zerg immediately expands and quick tech to hive.
It's a pretty dangerous build that counters Flash's standard 1 rax cc, assuming that the Zerg's muta control is spot on. Zero defeated Flash straight up with that build. Considering how friendly Dreamliner is to muta harass, Hyuk executed the correct build. He needed to take risks in order to win against Flash.
Flash cut scv to make more marines while Hyuk cut drones and lings in order to save larva for muta and take in more gas. One sunken and those four lings were all Hyuk could afford.
Unfortunately, Flash seems to be also aware of the exact same possibility and time countered it exactly.
On August 04 2010 19:31 Cpadolf wrote: Ugh, its always too damn nerve wrecking when one ZvZ will make the difference between possibly advancing or definitely dropping out =/
On August 04 2010 19:26 zmeqt wrote: Jaedong-Hydra.With Effort on the bring of elimination Hydra should deliver.After all there should be an OSL finalist from CJ,this has become some kind of tradition..
On August 04 2010 19:31 Cpadolf wrote: Ugh, its always too damn nerve wrecking when one ZvZ will make the difference between possibly advancing or definitely dropping out =/
On August 04 2010 19:23 sAAvior wrote: Flash should play protoss or zerg to give other guys a fighting chance...
that wasn't even Flash being good. that was just Hyuk being an idiot.
Correct me if I am wrong, but Hyuk used Zero's fast muta build, which consists of early gas, low early game army into faster than standard muta timing, keeping around 8 muta alive to box Terran inside his base while the Zerg immediately expands and quick tech to hive.
It's a pretty dangerous build that counters Flash's standard 1 rax cc, assuming that the Zerg's muta control is spot on. Zero defeated Flash straight up with that build. Considering how friendly Dreamliner is to muta harass, Hyuk executed the correct build. He needed to take risks in order to win against Flash.
Unfortunately, Flash seems to be also aware of the exact same possibility and time countered it exactly.
Flash's push was standard. If you haven't noticed, it happens in every single TvZ. Hyuk didn't build sunkens. Hyuk lost.
On August 04 2010 19:23 sAAvior wrote: Flash should play protoss or zerg to give other guys a fighting chance...
that wasn't even Flash being good. that was just Hyuk being an idiot.
Correct me if I am wrong, but Hyuk used Zero's fast muta build, which consists of early gas, low early game army into faster than standard muta timing, keeping around 8 muta alive to box Terran inside his base while the Zerg immediately expands and quick tech to hive.
It's a pretty dangerous build that counters Flash's standard 1 rax cc, assuming that the Zerg's muta control is spot on. Zero defeated Flash straight up with that build. Considering how friendly Dreamliner is to muta harass, Hyuk executed the correct build. He needed to take risks in order to win against Flash.
Unfortunately, Flash seems to be also aware of the exact same possibility and time countered it exactly.
Flash's push was standard. If you haven't noticed, it happens in every single TvZ. Hyuk didn't build sunkens. Hyuk lost.
that wasnt a standard push...its a much faster timing than normal..
Panic... Panicking is a good +50apm at least, it's only a click a second.. when a pro panics, it has to at least spazz to +150apm for the moment or so. It's as much mind game as technical ability.
On August 04 2010 19:23 sAAvior wrote: Flash should play protoss or zerg to give other guys a fighting chance...
that wasn't even Flash being good. that was just Hyuk being an idiot.
Correct me if I am wrong, but Hyuk used Zero's fast muta build, which consists of early gas, low early game army into faster than standard muta timing, keeping around 8 muta alive to box Terran inside his base while the Zerg immediately expands and quick tech to hive.
It's a pretty dangerous build that counters Flash's standard 1 rax cc, assuming that the Zerg's muta control is spot on. Zero defeated Flash straight up with that build. Considering how friendly Dreamliner is to muta harass, Hyuk executed the correct build. He needed to take risks in order to win against Flash.
Unfortunately, Flash seems to be also aware of the exact same possibility and time countered it exactly.
Flash's push was standard. If you haven't noticed, it happens in every single TvZ. Hyuk didn't build sunkens. Hyuk lost.
No...that push timing wasn't standard...just like it is not standard for the zerg to produce only 4 lings as opposed to 6.
In a standard 1 rax cc early pressure build, the goal is to force the zerg to make sunkens. Rarely can the terran actually finish off the Zerg right there and then because the zerg should have enough of an eco to support at least 2 sunkens with half a control group of lings.
Hyuk saw the marines with his overlord, yet he built only one.
On August 04 2010 19:23 sAAvior wrote: Flash should play protoss or zerg to give other guys a fighting chance...
that wasn't even Flash being good. that was just Hyuk being an idiot.
Correct me if I am wrong, but Hyuk used Zero's fast muta build, which consists of early gas, low early game army into faster than standard muta timing, keeping around 8 muta alive to box Terran inside his base while the Zerg immediately expands and quick tech to hive.
It's a pretty dangerous build that counters Flash's standard 1 rax cc, assuming that the Zerg's muta control is spot on. Zero defeated Flash straight up with that build. Considering how friendly Dreamliner is to muta harass, Hyuk executed the correct build. He needed to take risks in order to win against Flash.
Unfortunately, Flash seems to be also aware of the exact same possibility and time countered it exactly.
Flash's push was standard. If you haven't noticed, it happens in every single TvZ. Hyuk didn't build sunkens. Hyuk lost.
that wasnt a standard push...its a much faster timing than normal..
People keep saying this, but I don't see how. I was watching the supply counters at the beginning and Flash went rax at 20, gas at 22 (or maybe 23), which is perfectly standard.
APM =/= skill Flash timed everything and a-moved his rines into Hyuk's nat
Hyuk wasn't expecting it so early, especially since 2 hatch muta is supposed to give him the aggressive edge. He clearly didn't prepare for it even after Flash's rines moved out; 1 sunk can't stop a 10 rine push Pretty sure I saw Flash cut scvs (idle CCs for a macro king?) for that superfast push
[06:38] Can you imagine how wet the girls in Jaedong's booths must be? [06:38] shenghi: lmfao [06:38] JD about to devour a nerd [06:38] so do they stand there for like [06:38] an hour sometimes [06:38] <@Jaedong> WET AS FUCK YO [06:38] slipping on the floor [06:38] <@Jaedong> SO HUMID IN HERE
On August 04 2010 19:23 sAAvior wrote: Flash should play protoss or zerg to give other guys a fighting chance...
that wasn't even Flash being good. that was just Hyuk being an idiot.
Correct me if I am wrong, but Hyuk used Zero's fast muta build, which consists of early gas, low early game army into faster than standard muta timing, keeping around 8 muta alive to box Terran inside his base while the Zerg immediately expands and quick tech to hive.
It's a pretty dangerous build that counters Flash's standard 1 rax cc, assuming that the Zerg's muta control is spot on. Zero defeated Flash straight up with that build. Considering how friendly Dreamliner is to muta harass, Hyuk executed the correct build. He needed to take risks in order to win against Flash.
Unfortunately, Flash seems to be also aware of the exact same possibility and time countered it exactly.
Flash's push was standard. If you haven't noticed, it happens in every single TvZ. Hyuk didn't build sunkens. Hyuk lost.
that wasnt a standard push...its a much faster timing than normal..
People keep saying this, but I don't see how. I was watching the supply counters at the beginning and Flash went rax at 20, gas at 22 (or maybe 23), which is perfectly standard.
Flash did go standard. But he cut SCVs to make more marines. Marines and SCV = same cost and supply.
[06:38] <Knarkus> Can you imagine how wet the girls in Jaedong's booths must be? [06:38] <whitefang> shenghi: lmfao [06:38] <Bash> JD about to devour a nerd [06:38] <EnemyAirship> so do they stand there for like [06:38] <EnemyAirship> an hour sometimes [06:38] <@Jaedong> WET AS FUCK YO [06:38] <Spejnar> slipping on the floor [06:38] <@Jaedong> SO HUMID IN HERE
Are those the same Bisu fangirls? Damn bandwagon jumpers ...
Lol at Action's millisecond appearance at the very end of the OSL intro. Very impressive is his practice regimen and dedication but his genes shopped at the discount ugly store when picking his physical attributes.
On August 04 2010 19:43 dtnmang wrote: They oughta release Dreamliner SE with fixes such us line up the minerals in 6 o'clock main against the south, and move the nat closer to the main.
It completely baffles me why they wouldn't just make the 6 o'clock base an exact mirror of the 9 o'clock... I guess it's weird to have minerals under a CC, but it's a lot more fair.
On August 04 2010 19:23 sAAvior wrote: Flash should play protoss or zerg to give other guys a fighting chance...
that wasn't even Flash being good. that was just Hyuk being an idiot.
Correct me if I am wrong, but Hyuk used Zero's fast muta build, which consists of early gas, low early game army into faster than standard muta timing, keeping around 8 muta alive to box Terran inside his base while the Zerg immediately expands and quick tech to hive.
It's a pretty dangerous build that counters Flash's standard 1 rax cc, assuming that the Zerg's muta control is spot on. Zero defeated Flash straight up with that build. Considering how friendly Dreamliner is to muta harass, Hyuk executed the correct build. He needed to take risks in order to win against Flash.
Unfortunately, Flash seems to be also aware of the exact same possibility and time countered it exactly.
Flash's push was standard. If you haven't noticed, it happens in every single TvZ. Hyuk didn't build sunkens. Hyuk lost.
that wasnt a standard push...its a much faster timing than normal..
People keep saying this, but I don't see how. I was watching the supply counters at the beginning and Flash went rax at 20, gas at 22 (or maybe 23), which is perfectly standard.
Flash did go standard. But he cut SCVs to make more marines. Marines and SCV = same cost and supply.
You shouldn't need to cut SCVs to make constant marines from 2 barracks... but whatever, I'll watch the VOD again sometime.
On August 04 2010 19:40 Xstatic wrote: APM =/= skill Flash timed everything and a-moved his rines into Hyuk's nat
Hyuk wasn't expecting it so early, especially since 2 hatch muta is supposed to give him the aggressive edge. He clearly didn't prepare for it even after Flash's rines moved out; 1 sunk can't stop a 10 rine push Pretty sure I saw Flash cut scvs (idle CCs for a macro king?) for that superfast push
I can't state it without the vod in my hand, but Hyuk's muta timing should be 20 seconds faster than standard 2 hatch muta. Notice the traveling distance between 3 o'clock and 6 o'clock and also the fact that Flash stim traveled across the map to reach Hyuk's hatch seconds before the muta popped.
It's timed and prepared. I'd say it's a perfectly executed BO win.
On August 04 2010 20:11 vietboi wrote: Can anyone give me a short summary of the previous matches? I just woke up to stork-kal. And btw! Who is stork and who is kal ingame now?
On August 04 2010 20:11 vietboi wrote: Can anyone give me a short summary of the previous matches? I just woke up to stork-kal. And btw! Who is stork and who is kal ingame now?
kal yellow stork red first game had some sexy storms plus some wuhoh moments, was entertaining flash raped jaedong raped
On August 04 2010 20:11 vietboi wrote: Can anyone give me a short summary of the previous matches? I just woke up to stork-kal. And btw! Who is stork and who is kal ingame now?
Bisu vs Action: 3 hatch hydra into mediocre play and bad decision making from action. Bisu capitalizes on it with good storms.
On August 04 2010 20:11 vietboi wrote: Can anyone give me a short summary of the previous matches? I just woke up to stork-kal. And btw! Who is stork and who is kal ingame now?
kal yellow stork red first game had some sexy storms plus some wuhoh moments, was entertaining flash raped jaedong raped
omg some asshole in one of the streams said kal was red... lol i was so worried at the end when it looked like stork was gona lose but it was the other way around.
Poor Kal. I really feel for him. He's Kespa rank 3 for a reason, but he can never win when it really matters. He's like an inverse sniper.. always getting the non S-class.
Really strange game too. Stork's advantage of an earlier nexus couldn't be countered by Kal's pretty good harass. As well.. the food count was basically even the entire game, except Kal's losses were his army, while Stork lost mostly probes. Normally, this should mean a slight advantage for Kal, but that army advantage kept snowballing since his probe kills were not enough to significantly slowdown Stork's economy.
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On August 04 2010 20:30 538 wrote: wow, replay shows observer missed (?) 12 kill reaver shot by stork as Kal's third was taken down. No wonder Kal's macro was crippled from that on.
ah, so that's wat happened. Also, RUGRATS!! I watched that show so much so long ago!!
On August 04 2010 20:30 pR0gR4m3R wrote: Well, Kal will have more free time for clubbing !!
WCG qualifiers (vs semipro, and i cant help being anxious ) and STX Masters are still there for some solace maybe, but yeah, there's time for a lot of clubbing now
On August 04 2010 20:27 Malinor wrote: Probably the worst week in Kals progamer career. This guy is such a tragic figure in the pro scene.
Kal rules, he just hit a rough patch. Like JD last July when he lost to Calm in the MSL and Fantasy in the SPL grand finals with Oz (Although he came back and rolled Yarnc in the OSL). Kal will be back, no worries.
On August 04 2010 20:27 Kreedit wrote: omg some asshole in one of the streams said kal was red... lol i was so worried at the end when it looked like stork was gona lose but it was the other way around.
Stork's name looks like 007. Might help you in future PvPs =)
On August 04 2010 20:27 Kreedit wrote: omg some asshole in one of the streams said kal was red... lol i was so worried at the end when it looked like stork was gona lose but it was the other way around.
Stork's name looks like 007. Might help you in future PvPs =)
In this game it also helped that Kal's name's middle syllable is the same as the last one in Stork's name. Learn some progamer names, its fun (Kim Goo Hyun - Sum Byung Goo)
On August 04 2010 20:27 Kreedit wrote: omg some asshole in one of the streams said kal was red... lol i was so worried at the end when it looked like stork was gona lose but it was the other way around.
Stork's name looks like 007. Might help you in future PvPs =)
In this game it also helped that Kal's name's middle syllable is the same as the last one in Stork's name. Learn some progamer names, its fun (Kim Goo Hyun - Sum Byung Goo)
The Hangul alphabet is really easy to learn at least on a basic level. It's just based on the letters that make up each syllabic character... and then it's fun to read it and make yourself feel smart d^_^b
Why does people hate on Kal soo much? It's clear he gives everything he has in each game. I don't see any reason why people would hate on him. Besides, he isn't even a real threat to any fan favorite players. -_-
Kind of a mediocre day, despite big names. Bisu capitalized on Action playing stupid. Flash simply owned. And Jaedong had overwhelming BO due to Hydra's crazy build. Kal pretty much got out played from start to finish. Yes, I know Kal harassed really well, and he kind of had to harass due to his late expansion. But it also gave Stork his timing window to attack, and there was no contest who had better army control in the pivotal fight.
On August 04 2010 20:35 purpose wrote: Who will Stork and free play in ro8 depending on them being nr1 or 2 in the group? Or perhaps thats not decided yet?
If Free wins next round, he'll play a 2nd seed from another group(randomly drawn). And Stork will play the 1st seed from another group(randomly drawn). Vice versa if Stork wins.
On August 04 2010 20:44 C[SCL] wrote: Why does people hate on Kal soo much? It's clear he gives everything he has in each game. I don't see any reason why people would hate on him. Besides, he isn't even a real threat to any fan favorite players. -_-
He's not a real threat, but that might be exactly why some people dislike him. He's not good enough to root for easily (damn, being a kal fan is hard and depressing), but he takes games off everyone's favourite players here and there :-p
He made for an other exciting game today, and Stork won. This should make most people content, no need for the hate.
On August 04 2010 20:44 C[SCL] wrote: Why does people hate on Kal soo much? It's clear he gives everything he has in each game. I don't see any reason why people would hate on him. Besides, he isn't even a real threat to any fan favorite players. -_-
He's not a real threat, but that might be exactly why some people dislike him. He's not good enough to root for easily (damn, being a kal fan is hard and depressing), but he takes games off everyone's favourite players here and there :-p
He made for an other exciting game today, and Stork won. This should make most people content, no need for the hate.
Yeah. Definitely no need for the hate. And that's why you're his fan right? You go with him wherever he goes. Goodluck to Kal in his future endeavors. I respect him more now.
@Too_MuchZerg, are you saying that Hydra is most likely to beat Sea? Also, dreamliner is perfect for Leta to bring out some sexy wraith-play against Action, despite the overall map balance.
On August 04 2010 21:02 538 wrote: @Too_MuchZerg, are you saying that Hydra is most likely to beat Sea? Also, dreamliner is perfect for Leta to bring out some sexy wraith-play against Action, despite the overall map balance.
Leta's been the only guy to win straight up on Dreamliner.
I still call Leta 3-0 Bisu 2-1
Flash 3-0 TIEBREAKER (ZerO/HiyA (no way HyuK wins this))
Sea 3-0 Jaedong 2-1
Stork 3-0 Free 2-1
I want Ro8 Leta Jaedong Flash Free Sea Bisu Stork HiyA/ZerO
Holy shit guys, Bisu Flash Jaedong and Stork all won :D :D :D :D. How fucking awesome is this? To finally have all of them playing at a high level again at the same time
If WLWL - B1 Flash B2 Zero WLLW - B1 Flash B2 - 3 way playoff between Hiya Zero Hyuk LWWL - B1 and B2 - 3 way playoff between Flash Zero and Hiya LWLW - B1 Hiya B2 Flash
So 75% of the outcomes Flash is guaranteed to advance, in the LWWL scenario tentatively Flash has a 66% chance of making it out. So assuming all 4 players are at equal skill level Flash makes it out 91.667% of the time.
Guy gets what he deserves for creating a group with majority tosses. Dumb guy should know better than to race kill.
He only put one toss in his group, the one he had picked with his golden ball before anyone even drew lots. And if it wasn't for JD being in his group, Stork would have been the one to get swapped.
Though it was funny when he lost to the person he brought to his group.
Shame fantasy and Kal got eliminated. EffOrt's still in though! Time to beat down on bee suit.
Also, in the last month, Kal has played 11 games, of which 7 were against starleague winners, 2 were against starleague runners-up, and the last two were against elite players who haven't made a starleague finals (free and ZerO).
You could just go onto wfbrood.com Even if you don't know chinese, just look for the colored news post that has OSL in it and if there's VODs, it'll have VODs in parentheses.
Flash 3-0 TIEBREAKER (ZerO/HiyA (no way HyuK wins this))
No chances for tiebreak. Because there is just two players Zero advances. He wins Hiya.
If Hyuk beats Zero in the next game and Flash finishes the group 3-0, there will be tiebreaker games.
Or if HiyA beats Flash and Zero beats Hyuk, there will also be tiebeaker games. But most likely Flash will finish 3-0, ZerO 2-1, HiyA 1-2, and Hyuk 0-3.
Edit: I mean HiyA will finish 11-0 and win the OSL. Stupid Harem. >=[ Hmph.
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Action < Polaris Rhapsody > (P)
Bisu
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