EPTOn May 23 2010 04:40 Serpico wrote:
The better player choking his guts out? Shame.
The better player choking his guts out? Shame.
While it's true that Effort choked pretty badly the first two games, he was able to come back in the next three.
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HnR)hT
United States3468 Posts
While it's true that Effort choked pretty badly the first two games, he was able to come back in the next three. | ||
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7mk
Germany10157 Posts
yea but how about this - lets say you go for a risky cheese twice, it has 50% of failing 50% of succeeding. That means that you have such a huge chance of taking this series since you have 3 games left to lose. | ||
snowdrift
France2061 Posts
Flash was up 2-0, but he was playing standard in Game 3 and was overwhelmed by a few extra lings. In the previous game Effort went 3 hatch before pool and was ahead after successfully defending Flash's attack. Effort was reading him and countering appropriately. I don't know whether he had planned to do it beforehand, but in Game 4 it felt like Flash decided he was going to retake control of the series by mixing it up himself, and according to his interview Effort predicted it: Q: You found Flash’s proxy barracks in set 4. A: Honestly, I didn’t play a lot of BoX’s in my life so I didn’t have a completely idea of what to do. However, I realized a lot of things today. I won easily in set 3, so I felt that Flash would try something like that in set 4. This wasn’t what I had originally planned. I trusted my instincts and sent the Overlord straight to the middle of the map. I saw the center Barracks and thought “he fell into it". So I don't think it was a bad decision in itself, it's just that Effort was ahead in the mind games. | ||
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robitii
Romania15 Posts
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Lebesgue
4542 Posts
On May 23 2010 05:40 robitii wrote: where can i find the vods ? tracker or jon747 youtube account. | ||
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Serpico
4285 Posts
On May 23 2010 05:37 HnR)hT wrote: While it's true that Effort choked pretty badly the first two games, he was able to come back in the next three. every dog has his day, flash will just have to make due with beating the dong. | ||
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bubblegumbo
Taiwan1296 Posts
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Tien
Russian Federation4447 Posts
On May 23 2010 05:37 HnR)hT wrote: While it's true that Effort choked pretty badly the first two games, he was able to come back in the next three. Nice one. | ||
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
On May 23 2010 05:38 7mk wrote: yea but how about this - lets say you go for a risky cheese twice, it has 50% of failing 50% of succeeding. That means that you have such a huge chance of taking this series since you have 3 games left to lose. Why use 50% chance builds when you're the better player and up 2-0? And snowdrift, yeah he lost the mind games I just don't think he had to toss in mindgames in this series after that opening. I feel that by arguing for this it will look like I'm making excuses etc.. so I'll stop. Effort won today because he did what he needed to do. Fair enough. | ||
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Xifortis
Netherlands6 Posts
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MuffinDude
United States3837 Posts
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bearbuddy
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
On May 23 2010 04:49 Tien wrote: Flash 1 rax fast expo CC's for 5 months in a row. Winrate before Effort during those 5 months is 20-7. If you take facing Jaedong out, he's 19-4. Please tell me how 1 rax CC is exploitable??? It's not. Well Jaedong fully exploited 1rax CC... Three times in the MSL, because Flash was not at all prepared for it. | ||
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rockon1215
United States612 Posts
On May 23 2010 05:58 bearbuddy wrote: My thoughts exctlyThis makes the MSL final much, much less epic, though. | ||
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Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
On May 23 2010 05:44 Serpico wrote: every dog has his day, flash will just have to make due with beating the dong. the first thing that came to mind in both of the 2 games that Flash won was "Jaedong could've pulled off a win here." If he doesn't do better than he did here, he has no chance. Especially since he's playing the Bo5 master. | ||
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
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Emon_
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Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
On May 23 2010 06:07 Emon_ wrote: Its still 72% Flash. He will rip it up in the future as well. The games with JD will be more epic because he has something to prove now. People are questioning him and JD, wondering if they still got what it takes. So now both of them have to bring S-class SC to the MSL and Oov dominant SC to the next OSL/MSL. Don't think this won't hurt. I would cry if something like this happened to me. Humans are not emotionless machines, something like this can ruin you. | ||
tree.hugger
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
On May 23 2010 06:03 Lightwip wrote: the first thing that came to mind in both of the 2 games that Flash won was "Jaedong could've pulled off a win here." If he doesn't do better than he did here, he has no chance. Especially since he's playing the Bo5 master. EffOrt got outplayed in the second game, but Jaedong would not have beaten Flash from the zerg position in game one. Not with his hydra tech deflected and his doom drop scouted. On May 23 2010 06:06 On_Slaught wrote: Flash played so bad after the first 2 games. It was sad to watch. On May 23 2010 05:55 MuffinDude wrote: Really? Flash? You played like shit game 3, 4, and 5. WTF flash. Really? You don't deserve the golden mouse if you choose to suck all the sudden after winning 2 games. Flash is a progamer, Jaedong is a progamer, and so is EffOrt. I was somewhat hoping that EffOrt winning would make all this "EffOrt is bad, EffOrt is not worthy of an OSL finals" nonsense go away, but apparently haters gotta hate, and will continue making ridiculous excuses, just as they did with the last MSL finals, and pretty much every Flash loss afterwords.  Flash did not lose that final,  EffOrt won it. There's a difference. | ||
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Serpico
4285 Posts
On May 23 2010 06:13 tree.hugger wrote: EffOrt got outplayed in the second game, but Jaedong would not have beaten Flash from the zerg position in game one. Not with his hydra tech deflected and his doom drop scouted. Flash is a progamer, Jaedong is a progamer, and so is EffOrt. I was somewhat hoping that EffOrt winning would make all this "EffOrt is bad, EffOrt is not worthy of an OSL finals" nonsense go away, but apparently haters gotta hate, and will continue making ridiculous excuses, just as they did with the last MSL finals, and pretty much every Flash loss afterwords. Flash did not lose that final, EffOrt won it. There's a difference. I just dont think flash played at his peak for 5 games. He did for 2....then effort played great and flash's play diminished. I feel Flash has done well enough to prove he's the best usually, but he just didnt come to play those last 3 games. I give effort all the credit in the world for bringing his A game, but what the hell Flash. | ||
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