• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 05:11
CEST 11:11
KST 18:11
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2914Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16)14Reynor: GSL Loss Wasn't About Preparation Format13[IPSL] Spring 2026 Grand Finals - This Weekend!5Weekly Cups (July 6 - 12): Protoss strike back12BSL Season 22 Full Overview & Conclusion8
StarCraft 2
General
Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Reynor: GSL Loss Wasn't About Preparation Format Is the larve respawn broken? 5.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start) BGE Stara Zagora to be held again in June 2025
Tourneys
Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) WardiTV Summer Cup 2026 GSL CK #5 Race War RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event HomeStory Cup 29
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 534 Burning Evacuation Mutation # 533 Die Together Mutation # 532 Nuclear Family
Brood War
General
Recommended FPV games (post-KeSPA) Etiquete rules in Asl? Pros Debate: Zerg Unfairly Nerfed? (ASL S22 map) BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ screpdb: new Starcraft reporting tool
Tourneys
Small VOD Thread 2.0 [IPSL] Spring 2026 Grand Finals - This Weekend! Escore Tournament - Season 3 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile General RTS Discussion Thread Beyond All Reason Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread MLB/Baseball 2023 McBoner: A hockey love story Tennis[sport] Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Poker (part 2)
Nebuchad
The Experiences We Want and …
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 7376 users

[OSL] Korean Air OSL Grand Final - Page 299

Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 297 298 299 300 301 313 Next
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
May 22 2010 21:23 GMT
#5961
i'm wondering if flash vs JD finals will not be one sided, i'm not very sure of flash's mental strenght
BW is back
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
May 22 2010 21:30 GMT
#5962
zerglings > flash
[formerly sponsored by the artist formerly known as Gene]
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
May 22 2010 21:30 GMT
#5963
On May 23 2010 06:23 Jackal03 wrote:
i'm wondering if flash vs JD finals will not be one sided, i'm not very sure of flash's mental strenght

Probably will be, considering this and Jaedong's epic Bo5 ratio.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
May 22 2010 21:36 GMT
#5964
What happened in game 1? Sorry if it was already posted but there are 299 pages to read through to find the answer... Don't have that kinda time lol.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
Arco
Profile Joined September 2009
United States2090 Posts
May 22 2010 21:38 GMT
#5965
Flash had like 2-3 valks and lost 1 to monitor turning off so they regamed and Flash won.
superjoppe
Profile Joined December 2004
Sweden3694 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-22 21:39:08
May 22 2010 21:38 GMT
#5966
On May 23 2010 06:36 GreEny K wrote:
What happened in game 1? Sorry if it was already posted but there are 299 pages to read through to find the answer... Don't have that kinda time lol.

Flash made early valks, but his monitor turned black for a sec and caused a valk to die. He typed ppp and game pauses. Since it was very early in the game and no one had a clear advantage (other than the advantage Effort got by the valk kill), Kespa decided a regame
Bifur
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Russian Federation1208 Posts
May 22 2010 21:40 GMT
#5967
Now even if Flash win MSL finals, he wouldn't be called bonjwa...such a pity
Spyfire242
Profile Joined March 2009
United States715 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-22 21:47:10
May 22 2010 21:46 GMT
#5968
On May 23 2010 06:36 GreEny K wrote:
What happened in game 1? Sorry if it was already posted but there are 299 pages to read through to find the answer... Don't have that kinda time lol.


Effort had just sniped one of flashes 2 valks with scourge's and got the other to low health and was in a good position to start muta harass and personally I think he was slightly ahead when flash's monitor started glitching, pretty convenient but I am not complaining since effort won anyway... I think
effort was really shaken by that and the long wait time after and that is why he underperformed the first two games..
Entusman #55 Spyfire242!
superjoppe
Profile Joined December 2004
Sweden3694 Posts
May 22 2010 21:48 GMT
#5969
On May 23 2010 06:46 Spyfire242 wrote:
Effort had just sniped one of flashes 2 valks with scourge's and got the other to low health and was in a good position to start muta harass and personally I think he was slightly ahead when flash's monitor started glitching, pretty convenient but I am not complaining since effort won anyway... I think
effort was really shaken by that and the long wait time after and that is why he underperformed the first two games..

You got it all wrong, the monitor glitching was the cause of the valk dying and hence Efforts "advantage"
Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4783 Posts
May 22 2010 21:49 GMT
#5970
On May 23 2010 06:46 Spyfire242 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2010 06:36 GreEny K wrote:
What happened in game 1? Sorry if it was already posted but there are 299 pages to read through to find the answer... Don't have that kinda time lol.


Effort had just sniped one of flashes 2 valks with scourge's and got the other to low health and was in a good position to start muta harass and personally I think he was slightly ahead when flash's monitor started glitching, pretty convenient but I am not complaining since effort won anyway... I think
effort was really shaken by that and the long wait time after and that is why he underperformed the first two games..


Seriously, could people stop implying that Flash made the monitor faulty on purpose? If Kespa deemed it to be legit, who are you to doubt it?

And no, I'm not a Flash fanboi though i did root for him because I wanted a legendary MSL final.
pettter
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden1032 Posts
May 22 2010 21:50 GMT
#5971
NO

God damn it, Flash...

When will you ever learn that 14CC, Does. Not. Work!

Especially for you, especially on Match Point.

And proxying after you lose a game? Come on, where has your Bo5 confidence gone?

Damn it, Flash.

GGs, but
{ToT}ColmA
Profile Joined November 2007
Japan3260 Posts
May 22 2010 21:52 GMT
#5972
Hm, would be nice to know why a player such as flash changes his play after leading 2-0, even after the 2-1 he could ve just played it straight up which i think is a better option than doing weird stuff in most situations if u r not boxer
The only virgins in kpop left are the fans
Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
May 22 2010 21:52 GMT
#5973
I love how Jaedong is now considered the favourite to win in the MSL finals. He's the king of mindgames, the best series player of all time, and he's looking in shape. I mean, his ZvT again is his weakest matchup. He hasn't really faced any strong terrans lately with losses to baby, forgg, ruby, light... But of course, in a series JD is the tyrant. I expect his mechanics to be crisp and sharp (His muta micro in zvz and in zvt hasn't looked THAT great) and I expect him to come up with some sick build orders (Seriously, has there been any other zerg that comes up with better builds than JD??). So I really cannnnnnot wait for these games. Flash though.... Has that aura of invincibility (maybe not so bright lately). And I don't think anyone, not even Jaedong can beat him straight up if he opens with 1 rax into FE. I think they need some sort of economic 3 hatch before pool opening, super fast 2 hatch, or mass speedlings in order to gain some sort of early advantage early on.

I really hope though that JD 9 drone scouts every game and throws a 3 hatch before pool whenever he sees 1 rax into FE. I wanna see a macro brawwll. I'm HYPED.

Also, I'd just like to point out that JD has qualified for 4 finals in a row now. And flash...He's qualified for 4 finals in a row now but did it in HALF the time that JD did. Back to back DOUBLE starleague finals? Bonjwa.... I hope JD can pick up his game next season and accomplish a comparable feat.
The Past: Yellow, Julyzerg, Chojja, Savior, GGplay -- The Present: Luxury, Jae- The Future: -Dong, maGma, Zero, Effort, Hoejja, hyvaa, by.hero, calm, Action ---> SC2 (Ret?? Kolll Idra!! SEN, Cool, ZergBong, Leenock)
Cheeseburgered
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States716 Posts
May 22 2010 21:54 GMT
#5974
flash is gonna be pissed next week and triple bunker rush jaedong
CJ Entusman #58 | Gogogo Stats
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
May 22 2010 21:58 GMT
#5975
On May 23 2010 06:54 Cheeseburgered wrote:
flash is gonna be pissed next week and triple bunker rush jaedong

And triple lose.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
Amnesia
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3818 Posts
May 22 2010 21:59 GMT
#5976
On May 23 2010 06:52 {ToT}ColmA wrote:
Hm, would be nice to know why a player such as flash changes his play after leading 2-0, even after the 2-1 he could ve just played it straight up which i think is a better option than doing weird stuff in most situations if u r not boxer

Makes me think, you think he was playing unorthodox/greedy to show JD as little as possible?

I don't know, just a possibility. I mean even to me it felt like while watching the VODs, it wasn't the Flash that I knew that played TvZ.
ghosthunter
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States414 Posts
May 22 2010 22:07 GMT
#5977
I suppose on the grand upside, because of the upset people won't have to qq for three weeks about the monitor problem.
ISighZ
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States270 Posts
May 22 2010 22:18 GMT
#5978
I can't help but think Flash didn't want to win the series.
In game 2.. even though he won but he lost his 2 first two groups of mnm when he went to attack Effort's 3rd hatch. He didn't even move the mnm up the hill then start attack. He just 1a2a there so the front units was blocking the hill which end up some of the units didn't get to attack and he didn't focus fire on the individual sunkens.
In game 3.. careless mistake, moving his marines in a trail..?
Game 4.. I mean Flash should of been practicing his tvz so he should know the projectile of the overlord's scouting..Building barrack right in the way of overlord's path?? not his style..It's like saying.. I'm right here... Yes effort could have scout the other way but Flash should have taken into account all the path a overlord could have taken from their respective starting point.

Game 5.. 14 cc... I think it's safe to say in terms of skill Flash> Effort? So if he can get the game to mid/late game.. the odds are probably in his favor.

I guess you can say it's little mistakes.. but still..IT"s NOT FLASH play style.. all those games
Plus his coach kept talking to him after game..
just me.. but they probably don't want him to win and telling him not to win so he looks more human and not an unbeatable opponent..
FLASH! I BELIEVE!
There is no one to help you unless you help yourself
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-22 22:34:57
May 22 2010 22:21 GMT
#5979
Pages 189-200 in this thread are, in retrospect, absolutely hilarious.

Favorite post:
On May 22 2010 21:02 SkelA wrote:
wtf effort stop with this bullshit strategy,,

A CJ fan responds to EffOrt's (absolutely brilliant, it turned out) two hatch (ling bait-and-switch into muta) strategy.

Also:
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 22 2010 21:32 OSWater wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2010 21:31 King K. Rool wrote:
On May 22 2010 21:31 OSWater wrote:
if effort ggplays himself an osl im gonna fuck my furniture

quoted for remembrance.

that couch in my room will be my bitch in less than an hour

Best post in the entire thread.
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
IamLove
Profile Joined October 2004
252 Posts
May 22 2010 22:21 GMT
#5980
go 300 pages!
Prev 1 297 298 299 300 301 313 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
09:00
Crank Gathers S4: Group Stage
CranKy Ducklings19
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
WinterStarcraft598
SortOf 104
StarCraft: Brood War
Hyuk 905
BeSt 498
Mini 385
Shuttle 333
Rain 308
Hyun 197
sorry 127
NaDa 50
soO 30
NotJumperer 24
[ Show more ]
Sharp 20
ZergMaN 18
zelot 16
Hm[arnc] 16
Bale 15
ggaemo 12
Purpose 7
Sacsri 7
IntoTheRainbow 7
Yoon 5
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm153
Fuzer 94
febbydoto10
League of Legends
JimRising 509
Other Games
gofns9701
ceh91225
crisheroes310
XaKoH 181
Trikslyr10
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick2056
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH339
• LUISG 18
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota2100
League of Legends
• Stunt597
Upcoming Events
CrankTV Team League
1h 49m
WardiTV Qualifier
2h 49m
Epic.LAN
3h 49m
Big Brain Bouts
6h 49m
SHIN vs Elazer
Percival vs Nicoract
Reynor vs Lambo
Replay Cast
14h 49m
RSL Revival
23h 49m
Clem vs Lambo
Scarlett vs Cure
CranKy Ducklings
1d
Epic.LAN
1d 3h
IPSL
1d 6h
Dragon vs Hawk
RSL Revival
1d 23h
Classic vs Trap
herO vs SHIN
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
OSC
2 days
IPSL
2 days
Bonyth vs Ret
WardiTV Weekly
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
PiGosaur Cup
4 days
The PondCast
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
CrankTV Team League
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-07-13
HSC XXIX
Eternal Conflict S2 E2

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
Escore Tournament S3: W3
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
SCTL 2026 Spring
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026

Upcoming

ASL S22 SEASON OPEN Day 1
Escore Tournament S3: W4
ASL S22 SEASON OPEN Day 2
Escore Tournament S3: W5
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E3
Logitech G Connect 2026
StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.