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samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
May 20 2010 10:50 GMT
#701
On May 20 2010 19:46 SkelA wrote:
Ok lets see this.

Calm going 9 pool speedling bust JD totaly counter him with 10 hatch 10 pool . ( the worst thing you can do against this is 9 pool speedling)
He lost the ling exchange preety bad. He barely defended waisting 2 drones on sunks and with really fast tech to muta but no economy to support making mutas.
JD is on 2 hatch the whole time with more drones and just behind in tech but Calm cant use his tech because he have 6 drones total. And losing the 2nd hatch was huge.

How can anyone who have the slightest idea how zvz goes can say Calm had any sort of advantage in this game



He never did. The only chance Calm had after those bos is to mass up mutas while taking his nat and then securing map control vs JD's late mutas allowing him to take a faster 3rd or deny JD's nat. However, Calm never got his nat up and his mutas couldnt defend vs the lings efficiently at all . After all those drones died and the fact that he got 2 sunks while JD got a spore, the game was over.

Calm played brilliantly though, if he didnt get that 2nd sunk and take off drones off gas while getting a muta for defence he wouldve been dead, heck any other zerg wouldve been dead. His play to get a quick nat was brilliant.
"And then Earthlings discovered tools. Suddenly agreeing with friends could be a form of suicide or worse. But agreements went on, not for the sake of common sense, or decency, or self preservation, but for friendliness."
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
May 20 2010 10:50 GMT
#702
On May 20 2010 19:43 Smix wrote:

commentators: is there something you want to show through hte finals this season?
jd: personally i'm very happy with the finals match~ i'm happy i'll be playing the current best player so i think theres a big meaning in the finals; through the finals i'll show that the true winner and champion is me~ this will be my opportunity please look forward to it


oh FUCK YEAH
beep boop
Eloquent
Profile Joined July 2009
United States475 Posts
May 20 2010 10:50 GMT
#703
YEAHHH, GO JAEDONG! Clam showed a good job too.
Jaedong for Platnium Mouse.
Dreamer.T
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3584 Posts
May 20 2010 10:50 GMT
#704
The good thing for Flash is that he only has to prepare for Zerg for both finals. So we'll have a very well prepared and warmed up Flash vs a ready to kill Jaedong. And this time, MBC will have learned it's lesson. This could be the last great finals SC will ever have.
Forever the best, IMMvp <3
KristianJS
Profile Joined October 2009
2107 Posts
May 20 2010 10:51 GMT
#705
On May 20 2010 19:46 Doraemon wrote:
hype hype hype hype

someone make the MSL final thread already



fuck yes I'm read to hype this final so bad
You need to be 100% behind someone before you can stab them in the back
Silentness
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2821 Posts
May 20 2010 10:51 GMT
#706
On May 20 2010 19:42 pR0gR4m3R wrote:
Power outage wants to say something

"see you in the finals"

http://thimg.dreamwiz.com/upfile/201001/1264251468096.jpg


LOL WOW way to jinx the MSL finals >,<
GL HF... YOLO..lololollol.
pr0t0ss
Profile Joined January 2008
Russian Federation57 Posts
May 20 2010 10:52 GMT
#707
On May 20 2010 19:38 LittLeLives wrote:
clam got outsmarted


ye thats it
Jaedong ftw
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
May 20 2010 10:53 GMT
#708
It's more like he said He wanted to show He was the strongest of the era through these finals.
I think Jaedong too can be referred to as Him. The only other imo. Jaedong is the best ever.
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4758 Posts
May 20 2010 10:54 GMT
#709
On May 20 2010 19:46 SkelA wrote:
Ok lets see this.

Calm going 9 pool speedling bust JD totaly counter him with 10 hatch 10 pool . ( the worst thing you can do against this is 9 pool speedling)
He lost the ling exchange preety bad. He barely defended waisting 2 drones on sunks and with really fast tech to muta but no economy to support making mutas.
JD is on 2 hatch the whole time with more drones and just behind in tech but Calm cant use his tech because he have 6 drones total. And losing the 2nd hatch was huge.

How can anyone who have the slightest idea how zvz goes can say Calm had any sort of advantage in this game



I agree with you, it wasn't a comeback.

But I think it was a very good game anyway. Calm realized in time what he was up against and showed a perfect reaction imo, his drone saves were quite good, 2 sunkens necessary etc. He just couldn't win because he was starving for lava so much.
JD also played nearly perfectly, first of all to chose a BO that you basically never see, and played it out like a champ.

I really liked the game.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13092 Posts
May 20 2010 10:54 GMT
#710
Calm played preety good in 4th game considering he was totaly hard countered but you cant win the Dong when you are hard countered in zvz
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
tbrown47
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1235 Posts
May 20 2010 10:54 GMT
#711
updated results with... how do you say...


hotter? text?
just here
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
May 20 2010 10:54 GMT
#712
phew, jaedong won like he was supposed to
Brood War loyalist
Wonders
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Australia753 Posts
May 20 2010 10:56 GMT
#713
Amazing game, was at the edge of my seat.

On May 20 2010 19:46 SkelA wrote:
Ok lets see this.

Calm going 9 pool speedling bust JD totaly counter him with 10 hatch 10 pool . ( the worst thing you can do against this is 9 pool speedling)
He lost the ling exchange preety bad. He barely defended waisting 2 drones on sunks and with really fast tech to muta but no economy to support making mutas.
JD is on 2 hatch the whole time with more drones and just behind in tech but Calm cant use his tech because he have 6 drones total. And losing the 2nd hatch was huge.

How can anyone who have the slightest idea how zvz goes can say Calm had any sort of advantage in this game



I think Calm was winning, he just needed to wait a bit longer until he had 3 or at least 2 mutas before taking his nat. He just got ahead of himself, only mining enough gas for one muta then trying to take the nat immediately. JD's lings were able to take it to half health right then.

Also I don't recall Calm ever having 6 drones total. And 10 hatch really isn't that good against 9 pool if you build the hatch in your main.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42417 Posts
May 20 2010 10:56 GMT
#714
Any VoDs out yet? Any Eta?
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
May 20 2010 10:57 GMT
#715
best MSL semi-finals ever.

you don't even have to add in what the outcome determined.
"Science has so well established that the preborn baby in the womb is a living human being that most pro-choice activists have conceded the point. ..since the abortion proponents have lost the science argument, they are now advocating an existential one."
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-20 10:58:43
May 20 2010 10:57 GMT
#716
On May 20 2010 19:54 tbrown47 wrote:
updated results with... how do you say...


hotter? text?



O_O Hot.
Jaedong :3
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4186 Posts
May 20 2010 10:59 GMT
#717
was the maps order announced?
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
May 20 2010 11:03 GMT
#718
Revenge is best served dong.
The Past: Yellow, Julyzerg, Chojja, Savior, GGplay -- The Present: Luxury, Jae- The Future: -Dong, maGma, Zero, Effort, Hoejja, hyvaa, by.hero, calm, Action ---> SC2 (Ret?? Kolll Idra!! SEN, Cool, ZergBong, Leenock)
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
May 20 2010 11:03 GMT
#719
On May 20 2010 19:59 M2 wrote:
was the maps order announced?


Yes. They are always preannounced so players can practice and plan ^^
Jaedong :3
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4186 Posts
May 20 2010 11:05 GMT
#720
On May 20 2010 20:03 ReketSomething wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2010 19:59 M2 wrote:
was the maps order announced?


Yes. They are always preannounced so players can practice and plan ^^


Let me paraphrase especially for you:-))

Was the map order for the finals announced?
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
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