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tbrown47
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1235 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-08 10:15:51
May 20 2010 04:11 GMT
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Hana Daetoo Securities MSL 2010 Semi-Final B
Thursday, May 20 9:30am GMT (GMT+00:00)



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Relevant Statistics:
Record: 330-153 (68.32%)
Record vZ: 117-38 (75.48%)
Current ELO: 2314
Peak ELO: 2365
Current ELO vZ: 2237
Peak ELO vZ: 2341
Last 10 Games: W W W W W W W W W W
Last 10 vZ Games: L W W W L W W W W W

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Relevant Statistics:
Record: 143-106 (57.43%)
Record vZ: 55-38 (59.14%)
Current ELO: 2187
Peak ELO: 2287
Current ELO vZ: 2143
Peak ELO vZ: 2196
Last 10 Games: L W L W L L W W W W
Last 10 vZ Games: W L W W L L W W W W



(Z)Jaedong < Match Point > (Z)Calm
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(Z)Jaedong > (Z)Calm
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(Z)Jaedong < Odd-Eye 2 > (Z)Calm
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(Z)Jaedong < Triathlon > (Z)Calm
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(Z)Jaedong < Fighting Spirit > (Z)Calm
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(Z)Jaedong <> (Z)Calm
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(Z)Jaedong < Match Point > (Z)Calm
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(Z)Jaedong

(Z)The Tyrant has been the dominating presence on the Starcraft scene for a damn-long time. And it seems as if he doesn't want his presence to fade for an even longer time to come. He is renowned for his unbreakable mindset. While strong players before him come and go, (Z)Jaedong is just that much different. He won't allow himself to be forgotten. What makes him so much different than anyone before him is that unbreakable mindset. When other players lose, they slump, begin to struggle, and eventually fade away. When (Z)Jaedong loses, he comes back stronger than ever the very next day. You cannot phase (Z)Jaedong. If you expect to beat him, don't expect to break his focus with unexpected play, unorthodox builds, and other useless tools of battle. (Z)Jaedong is too strong for simple things like that. If you want to win versus him... you have to beat him straight up. And that leads to his frightening statistics...

(Z)Jaedong is a Bo5 monster. According to the Liquipedia (Stats) he is 19-3 in Bo5 matches. Not only is that a ridiculous amount of Bo5 matches, but ridiculous win statistics. It shows how long he has been in the scene, and how dominant he has been since then. The interesting thing to note though is that he has lost one time to each race. Once to (P)Rock, (T)fOrGG, and... (Z)Calm. But as I said before, (Z)Jaedong doesn't get phased. When he sees a statistic that doesn't go in his favor, he goes to break that statistic into pieces. And expect that ferocity tonight against (Z)Calm.

(Z)Jaedong is also renowned for his ZvZ (also known as JvZ). To try and explain this match-up in words... it could be called a Rock, Paper, Scissors match of build orders. Basically put: build #1 is strong against #2 which is strong against #3 which is strong against #1. And to put it simply, (Z)Jaedong was beating Rock with Scissors. He was so far ahead of the curve that no one could even begin to touch him. While things aren't exactly "JvZ" anymore, they are pretty damn close. Especially with his recent vZ results.

Don't expect (Z)Jaedong to be phased because he has lost to (Z)Calm before. Expect (Z)Jaedong to be stronger than ever. (Z)Calm has his hands full tonight.



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(Z)Calm
(For Calm fans: I want to make this section as long as Jaedong's... but lets face it, there simply isn't as much to mention in terms of readily available information for me to type about, and sheer amount of games played, and etc.... please don't hate me >_<!)

Back in the time of JvZ, there were very few Zergs who could even fathom to win against (Z)Jaedong. And (Z)Calm is one of those Zergs. He is known for his genius plays and builds, earning him the nickname (Z)Brain Zerg. And in most of his games, you can see that shine of sheer brilliance come through into his play. Whether it comes through a slight twist in build order, or a small tweak in army composition, if you expect to beat him, expect to outsmart him. Or you will end up left in the dust.

(Z)Calm's best statistical match-up is vZ. And he has had recent practice in vZ Bo5's, seeing how he recently beat (Z)great in one 3-2. (Z)Calm has had the practice and has the ability to beat (Z)Jaedong, as he has shown before. He is the only Zerg in the world who can say that he has beaten (Z)Jaedong in the most skill-intensive game setup that exists. And (Z)Calm plans to keep it that way.

(Z)Calm will come at (Z)Jaedong with utmost preparation, as expected of a (Z)Brain Zerg. If (Z)Jaedong hopes to turn the statistics from 0-1 to 1-1, he will have to out-play this Zerg, because there simply is no out-thinking him.



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(Z)Jaedong < Match Point > (Z)Calm

(Z)Jaedong < Odd-Eye 2 > (Z)Calm

(Z)Jaedong < Triathlon > (Z)Calm

(Z)Jaedong < Fighting Spirit > (Z)Calm

(Z)Jaedong 3 > 1 (Z)Calm

It's hard to judge what will happen in any mirror match. Seeing how maps don't tend to benefit a specific player. But it is even more-so with ZvZ. Anything can happen. So don't judge me for my super-biased predictions!



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(Z)Jaedong < Match Point > (Z)Calm

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(Z)Jaedong < Odd-Eye 2 > (Z)Calm

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(Z)Jaedong < Triathlon > (Z)Calm

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(Z)Jaedong < Fighting Spirit > (Z)Calm

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Ethelis
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2397 Posts
May 20 2010 04:13 GMT
#2
(Z)Calm 3-1, regardless hopefully they're good games.
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DarkMatter_
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada1774 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-20 04:17:53
May 20 2010 04:15 GMT
#3
Sexy OP.

Hoping for 3-0 Jaedong. I'll hate Calm forever if he wins.

Spoilers of CJ vs Oz game: + Show Spoiler +
BTW, Jaedong won all his last 10 games. TLPD didn't include his match against SkyHigh


Wow, Jaedong's stats on Match Point are ridiculous.
TheMunkey
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada470 Posts
May 20 2010 04:18 GMT
#4
(Z)Jaedong win please.

MSL Rematch without power outage! make it happen!
Never give up
richard_keats
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States54 Posts
May 20 2010 04:22 GMT
#5
Please let (Z)Jaedong win! He definitely deserves to play (T)Flash again.
Sayer
Profile Joined August 2009
United States403 Posts
May 20 2010 04:22 GMT
#6
I like (Z)Calm too but

(Z)Jaedong 3-1 Please~~
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
May 20 2010 04:23 GMT
#7
OH BABY those fiery words look sick!

I love Calm more, but I think JD will bring a better finals, and I want to see a rematch of course
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
skronch
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2717 Posts
May 20 2010 04:25 GMT
#8
START THE HYPE. LEE JAEDONG MUST PREVAIL
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
May 20 2010 04:26 GMT
#9
If you are a fan of esports at all you want Jaedong to win this game (even the stx fans).

As long as JD doesn't 12 hatch he will 3-0 easy.
InTheFade
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1721 Posts
May 20 2010 04:27 GMT
#10
Hoping for Calm, though I'm willing to settle for a Flash vs Jaedong final.
... Knowmsayin'?
neobowman
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3324 Posts
May 20 2010 04:28 GMT
#11
On May 20 2010 13:15 DarkMatter_ wrote:
Wow, Jaedong's stats on Match Point are ridiculous.


Jaedong is Starcraft god. He will win.
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8170 Posts
May 20 2010 04:29 GMT
#12
this is going to be close I think. I'm happy with either result though; if calm wins then that's fucking awesome calm is in the MSL finals again. If JD wins then that's fucking awesome JD vs flash rematch.
Free Palestine
C[SCL]
Profile Joined April 2009
Philippines576 Posts
May 20 2010 04:32 GMT
#13
Jaedong is going to lose to Calm when he doesn't have to prepare for a golden mouse like he did 2 seasons ago? Come on. Jaedong has this. He is too clutch.
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Pvvned
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States406 Posts
May 20 2010 04:34 GMT
#14
I hope JD will win. I'd rather see a rematch of JD/Flash than Calm potentially getting raped by Flash.
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domane
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada1606 Posts
May 20 2010 04:35 GMT
#15
Go Calm. Brain zerg has to prove his dependability. Another series win vs JD would be huge.
Imbu
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States903 Posts
May 20 2010 04:38 GMT
#16
Jaedong Hwaiting! You haev to win your half of the finals so we can get the most epic rematch ever. If Calm ends up winning this, then these finals just might become one of the most one sided events ever.
@DreamingBird
AleC
Profile Joined December 2009
332 Posts
May 20 2010 04:40 GMT
#17
Sorry to nitpick, but shouldn't Calm be favored on FS?

3-3 > 2-4


...and GO JAEDONG
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
May 20 2010 04:41 GMT
#18
For once, I hope clam plays. JD would probably win regardless, i don't think he'd let himself lose again.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
Yxes2211
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1587 Posts
May 20 2010 04:43 GMT
#19
JD 3 - 0 XD

stay undefeated this month
Jaedong and Baby
tbrown47
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1235 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-20 04:44:57
May 20 2010 04:43 GMT
#20
On May 20 2010 13:40 xAlec wrote:
Sorry to nitpick, but shouldn't Calm be favored on FS?

3-3 > 2-4


...and GO JAEDONG


I weighed that against the overall record... while it could be seen as either way... I guess I could edit it... to say even?

Edit: I just noticed I included Odd-Eye (the original) in the statistics... but the maps are basically the same.. wonder if I should keep that in.

Also, I'll edit the Fighting Spirit one to say EVEN.
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