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Trezeguet
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2656 Posts
May 21 2010 00:46 GMT
#821
On May 21 2010 08:53 jyLee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2010 05:03 Ideas wrote:
On May 21 2010 04:56 Issorlol wrote:
On May 21 2010 04:44 Ideas wrote:

just too bad JD had to cheese in 2 of the games :\



he only cheesed in one game, imo. I don't think jaedong's 10 hatch was cheese as much as it was trying to psych out Calm (and, likely, Flash).


10h 9p 9g is pretty fucking cheesy

Do you even play sc? How the fuck is 9pool cheese and much less in ZvZ. Butt hurt much?

It think the part he believes is cheesy is the 10h part not the 9p part.
Trezeguet
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2656 Posts
May 21 2010 00:47 GMT
#822
On May 21 2010 08:45 RushWifDietCoke wrote:
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On May 21 2010 08:40 Trezeguet23 wrote:
On May 21 2010 08:26 RushWifDietCoke wrote:
On May 21 2010 07:38 Alethios wrote:
Just finished watching this series. Freaking awesome.

Jaedong fighting!


Same here, wanted to stay up to watch it but didn't end up happening.

Game 2 was awesome, such a huge risk by the dong-meister. If calm went 9 pool or 12 pool it was basically insta-gg.

12 hatch right?


Calm went 12 hatch. Is that what you were asking?

Yeah, I misread what he said, I thought he was asking what calm went. I am dumb.
n.DieJokes
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3443 Posts
May 21 2010 02:17 GMT
#823
On May 21 2010 08:53 jyLee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2010 05:03 Ideas wrote:
On May 21 2010 04:56 Issorlol wrote:
On May 21 2010 04:44 Ideas wrote:

just too bad JD had to cheese in 2 of the games :\



he only cheesed in one game, imo. I don't think jaedong's 10 hatch was cheese as much as it was trying to psych out Calm (and, likely, Flash).


10h 9p 9g is pretty fucking cheesy

Do you even play sc? How the fuck is 9pool cheese and much less in ZvZ. Butt hurt much?

No that really is cheese, but don't believe me, believe a B forum hero!
On December 24 2009 02:26 randomKo_Orean wrote:
Project 15: ZvP or ZvZ
Show nested quote +
9 hat
9 pool
9 gas
9 over
hat, over and pool finish at same time, build zerglings until 18/18
speed @ 100 gas, take drones off
attack with 1,5 groups lings, speed finishes when your last lings are halfway to his base.

drone up, 2 base hydra or muta from there

+ Show Spoiler +
First Impression: I actually practiced this build for CSL+ Playoffs vs University of Texas -> really all-in build, but works wonders even @ high level. I've beaten quite number of B-/B Zergs with this build.

Result: I've beaten B-/B Zergs approximately 50% of the time. Great build, but cheesy as fuck. Will die to 12hatch inbase or competent Zerg that goes 11/12pool variation.
Replay: [image loading]
Note: This particular replay is vs a B/B+ Zerg (j2.Jolin) in a CSL+ Playoff match between UCSD and University of Texas, Austin, last season's runner-up. I got insanely lucky with this game, but would've have worked wonders against any 9pool variation.
MyLove + Your Love= Supa Love
poebae
Profile Joined January 2008
Australia134 Posts
May 21 2010 02:58 GMT
#824
For the OP, the "Recommended Games" isn't really spoiler-free when + Show Spoiler +
there are only four games
tbrown47
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1235 Posts
May 21 2010 03:51 GMT
#825
On May 21 2010 11:58 poebae wrote:
For the OP, the "Recommended Games" isn't really spoiler-free when + Show Spoiler +
there are only four games


It is Recommended Games, not Recommended Games and Not Recommended Games. If a game isn't listed there, then it isn't recommended, it doesn't mean a game isn't played. At least, that is how I have always done it... and I don't really see a reason to change it. Seems logical to me.
just here
dybydx
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada1764 Posts
May 21 2010 03:57 GMT
#826
alrite boyz, we got another FvJ final. for the love of god, MBC better not f*ck this one up or else i am gonna have to kill a kitten.
...from the land of imba
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
May 21 2010 04:18 GMT
#827
On May 21 2010 12:57 dybydx wrote:
alrite boyz, we got another FvJ final. for the love of god, MBC better not f*ck this one up or else i am gonna have to kill a kitten.

Meaning you already didn't kill one?
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
poebae
Profile Joined January 2008
Australia134 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-21 05:42:02
May 21 2010 05:41 GMT
#828
On May 21 2010 12:51 tbrown47 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2010 11:58 poebae wrote:
For the OP, the "Recommended Games" isn't really spoiler-free when + Show Spoiler +
there are only four games


It is Recommended Games, not Recommended Games and Not Recommended Games. If a game isn't listed there, then it isn't recommended, it doesn't mean a game isn't played. At least, that is how I have always done it... and I don't really see a reason to change it. Seems logical to me.

Yes, but usually Spoiler-Free indicates that there'll be nothing that will give away the result of a series. When I saw that + Show Spoiler +
there were only four games listed, I instantly realised that only four games were played, so after Jaedong took Set 3 I knew he'd won the series/
I'm sorry if I sound ungrateful at the effort made not to spoil a game, but I don't think it's too much effort to + Show Spoiler +
add a dummy 5th set
JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
May 21 2010 06:17 GMT
#829
wow you were spoiled...you must be suffering so bad
HEY MEYT
qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-21 06:21:03
May 21 2010 06:18 GMT
#830
On May 21 2010 12:51 tbrown47 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2010 11:58 poebae wrote:
For the OP, the "Recommended Games" isn't really spoiler-free when + Show Spoiler +
there are only four games


It is Recommended Games, not Recommended Games and Not Recommended Games. If a game isn't listed there, then it isn't recommended, it doesn't mean a game isn't played. At least, that is how I have always done it... and I don't really see a reason to change it. Seems logical to me.

You are the best LR threadmaker among some great LR threadmakers, imho, but here is why the way you do "recommended games" is a small spoiler: it's true it doesn't mean that the non-recommended games aren't played, but it does mean that the recommended games are played, so, for instance, someone watching game 3 of this series will know that Calm wins it, since there is a game 4. Spoiler tags for each game, played or not, would eliminate that kind of spoiler.
On May 21 2010 15:17 JohnColtrane wrote:
wow you were spoiled...you must be suffering so bad

Why be snarky? He's not whining for the sake of whining, just pointing out a small thing that could make a great LR thread even better, without much additional effort.
'As per the American Heart Association, the beat of the Bee Gees song "Stayin' Alive" provides an ideal rhythm in terms of beats per minute to use for hands-only CPR. One can also hum Queen's "Another One Bites The Dust".' —Wikipedia
lyhb
Profile Joined December 2009
Canada208 Posts
May 21 2010 06:24 GMT
#831
abit of topic here but why did jd kill an egg?
JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-21 06:31:08
May 21 2010 06:29 GMT
#832
On May 21 2010 15:18 qrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2010 12:51 tbrown47 wrote:
On May 21 2010 11:58 poebae wrote:
For the OP, the "Recommended Games" isn't really spoiler-free when + Show Spoiler +
there are only four games


It is Recommended Games, not Recommended Games and Not Recommended Games. If a game isn't listed there, then it isn't recommended, it doesn't mean a game isn't played. At least, that is how I have always done it... and I don't really see a reason to change it. Seems logical to me.

You are the best LR threadmaker among some great LR threadmakers, imho, but here is why the way you do "recommended games" is a small spoiler: it's true it doesn't mean that the non-recommended games aren't played, but it does mean that the recommended games are played, so, for instance, someone watching game 3 of this series will know that Calm wins it, since there is a game 4. Spoiler tags for each game, played or not, would eliminate that kind of spoiler.
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2010 15:17 JohnColtrane wrote:
wow you were spoiled...you must be suffering so bad

Why be snarky? He's not whining for the sake of whining, just pointing out a small thing that could make a great LR thread even better, without much additional effort.


because im sick of people talking and worrying about being spoilered. alright, you know the victor, but you dont know how the game played out. what's the big problem? no need to wander around downbuzzing like a boy that's just had his last bit of bread pinched

you know what else would improve the lr thread? getting rid of all images and just having a spoilered text showing the results, so people like me dont have to worry about filling up my quota with useless pictures
HEY MEYT
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
May 21 2010 07:03 GMT
#833
How do people operate the recommended games anyway?
Like do they open up each rec game spoiler tag to see if they should watch it? What if it's not recommended. Do they just go on to the next game?
Jaedong
qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-21 07:16:06
May 21 2010 07:14 GMT
#834
On May 21 2010 15:29 JohnColtrane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2010 15:18 qrs wrote:
On May 21 2010 12:51 tbrown47 wrote:
On May 21 2010 11:58 poebae wrote:
For the OP, the "Recommended Games" isn't really spoiler-free when + Show Spoiler +
there are only four games


It is Recommended Games, not Recommended Games and Not Recommended Games. If a game isn't listed there, then it isn't recommended, it doesn't mean a game isn't played. At least, that is how I have always done it... and I don't really see a reason to change it. Seems logical to me.

You are the best LR threadmaker among some great LR threadmakers, imho, but here is why the way you do "recommended games" is a small spoiler: it's true it doesn't mean that the non-recommended games aren't played, but it does mean that the recommended games are played, so, for instance, someone watching game 3 of this series will know that Calm wins it, since there is a game 4. Spoiler tags for each game, played or not, would eliminate that kind of spoiler.
On May 21 2010 15:17 JohnColtrane wrote:
wow you were spoiled...you must be suffering so bad

Why be snarky? He's not whining for the sake of whining, just pointing out a small thing that could make a great LR thread even better, without much additional effort.


because im sick of people talking and worrying about being spoilered. alright, you know the victor, but you dont know how the game played out. what's the big problem? no need to wander around downbuzzing like a boy that's just had his last bit of bread pinched

you know what else would improve the lr thread? getting rid of all images and just having a spoilered text showing the results, so people like me dont have to worry about filling up my quota with useless pictures
People like you can set their browser not to show images from TL.net.

You might not care whether you know the result of a game before watching it, but some people do. Considering that the "recommended games" section does make an attempt to avoid spoilers, for the benefit of those people, I think it's fair to point out where it falls short.

On May 21 2010 16:03 Avidkeystamper wrote:
How do people operate the recommended games anyway?
Like do they open up each rec game spoiler tag to see if they should watch it? What if it's not recommended. Do they just go on to the next game?

open them in order: only open a tag if have watched/decided-not-to-watch the previous games.
'As per the American Heart Association, the beat of the Bee Gees song "Stayin' Alive" provides an ideal rhythm in terms of beats per minute to use for hands-only CPR. One can also hum Queen's "Another One Bites The Dust".' —Wikipedia
JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
May 21 2010 07:26 GMT
#835
On May 21 2010 16:14 qrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2010 15:29 JohnColtrane wrote:
On May 21 2010 15:18 qrs wrote:
On May 21 2010 12:51 tbrown47 wrote:
On May 21 2010 11:58 poebae wrote:
For the OP, the "Recommended Games" isn't really spoiler-free when + Show Spoiler +
there are only four games


It is Recommended Games, not Recommended Games and Not Recommended Games. If a game isn't listed there, then it isn't recommended, it doesn't mean a game isn't played. At least, that is how I have always done it... and I don't really see a reason to change it. Seems logical to me.

You are the best LR threadmaker among some great LR threadmakers, imho, but here is why the way you do "recommended games" is a small spoiler: it's true it doesn't mean that the non-recommended games aren't played, but it does mean that the recommended games are played, so, for instance, someone watching game 3 of this series will know that Calm wins it, since there is a game 4. Spoiler tags for each game, played or not, would eliminate that kind of spoiler.
On May 21 2010 15:17 JohnColtrane wrote:
wow you were spoiled...you must be suffering so bad

Why be snarky? He's not whining for the sake of whining, just pointing out a small thing that could make a great LR thread even better, without much additional effort.


because im sick of people talking and worrying about being spoilered. alright, you know the victor, but you dont know how the game played out. what's the big problem? no need to wander around downbuzzing like a boy that's just had his last bit of bread pinched

you know what else would improve the lr thread? getting rid of all images and just having a spoilered text showing the results, so people like me dont have to worry about filling up my quota with useless pictures
People like you can set their browser not to show images from TL.net.

You might not care whether you know the result of a game before watching it, but some people do. Considering that the "recommended games" section does make an attempt to avoid spoilers, for the benefit of those people, I think it's fair to point out where it falls short.

Show nested quote +
On May 21 2010 16:03 Avidkeystamper wrote:
How do people operate the recommended games anyway?
Like do they open up each rec game spoiler tag to see if they should watch it? What if it's not recommended. Do they just go on to the next game?

open them in order: only open a tag if have watched/decided-not-to-watch the previous games.


id do that if i knew how
HEY MEYT
qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
May 21 2010 08:29 GMT
#836
On May 21 2010 16:26 JohnColtrane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2010 16:14 qrs wrote:
On May 21 2010 15:17 JohnColtrane wrote:
you know what else would improve the lr thread? getting rid of all images and just having a spoilered text showing the results, so people like me dont have to worry about filling up my quota with useless pictures
People like you can set their browser not to show images from TL.net.


id do that if i knew how

Depends on your browser. What do you use?
'As per the American Heart Association, the beat of the Bee Gees song "Stayin' Alive" provides an ideal rhythm in terms of beats per minute to use for hands-only CPR. One can also hum Queen's "Another One Bites The Dust".' —Wikipedia
grax
Profile Joined June 2009
United States41 Posts
May 21 2010 08:57 GMT
#837
Jaedong is tied for best human in the universe with Carl Sagan. I love him more than I love guacamole, and I love guacamole A LOT.
Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
May 21 2010 09:18 GMT
#838
It seems to be the commentators were really JD biased. When he had an advantage they were all excited and happy, when Calm was up, they were sad for JD/couldn't care less about Calm.
"I know that human beings and fish can coexist peacefully" -GWB ||
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
May 21 2010 09:22 GMT
#839
On May 21 2010 18:18 Emon_ wrote:
It seems to be the commentators were really JD biased. When he had an advantage they were all excited and happy, when Calm was up, they were sad for JD/couldn't care less about Calm.

I'd think the fans would be the same. And I don't think the commentators have any requirement to be unbiased.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
May 21 2010 09:33 GMT
#840
IMO the series was a lot closer than it looked. Calm almost had game 4 and then I wouldn't have been surprised if he pulled back to win game 5, he would have had all the momentum. Goes to show that even JvZ isn't what it used to be anymore.
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
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