2010 Shinhan Bank Proleague Round 4 Week 4 (OGN) vs. Hwaseung OZ vs. Samsung KHAN Sunday, May 02 4:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) Lineups will be announced before each match.
I like to look at the team as a whole before giving my specific prediction.
Hwaseung OZ.... you disappoint me at almost every turn, yet I keep coming back to you. I've said it before and I'll say it again, Hwaseung OZ is hands down the most fun team to watch play(fanboyism ). Every single freakin' match they play seems to come to an epic ace match or a completely disheartening letdown, no matter who they are playing. Every match seems to play out this way... and I guess that is why I keep coming back. The thrill of the game. Anywho, Hwaseung OZ... what do they have going for them? Jaedong obviously, and I don't want to talk to much about him, because people seem to know what place hes in. He is above the general average, but below the Jaedong average. Although he seems to be making a comeback as of recent. That is all I'll say about him. What else do they have? HiyA, obviously. He has been playing a lot stronger as of late, in my opinion. And I think he will show he is a dangerous Terran to underestimate. On the other hand... both Killer and Lomo have been not showing the promise that I want them to show. And I think this is where OZ begins to fall off as a team. One of these two need to step up and take their place as the 3rd player on OZ's roster. Which will it be? My bet is on Killer, but it may very well be Lomo. Who knows.
Samsung KHAN is a pretty strong team. They definitely aren't the powerhouse they used to be, but they still have some deadly potential. They still have Stork and JangBi who even though aren't in top form, don't need top form to tackle most of the opponents in their path. They are still major threats and are players to be wary of when making predictions. Overall, Samsung KHAN is doing okay. Which is to be expected with their 2 strongest players in their current form. HiyA < Roadrunner > great
I don't think KHAN wants to risk sending one of their Protosses out on this map, and I think they know that HiyA is coming out here. So they send the Zerg who is 3-0 against HiyA, great, to combat him. HiyA decides to change their record a little bit.
I think both teams are saving their strongest players for as long as they can. So, I expect to see a Killer vs JangBi match, which should be a good match out of these two, but JangBi will come out on top in my opinion. JangBi is still a strong player, and I am so disappointed in Killer... what happened to our rising Zerg star?
I expect Lomo to come out here for OZ. The question was who would come out for KHAN? Besides JangBi and Stork... there is a lot of room for mystery. I finally came down to decide between firebathero or Brave, and I rolled the dice in favor of Brave. Game is a toss up, I go in favor of Lomo.
Same map, same players, epic match incoming. Jaedong has a score to settle with Stork, and even though I love my little Dinotoss, I think that Jaedong is coming to lay down the law. Expect nostril flares from Jaedong even when he is winning clearly. The only downside to this win... no ace match : [ Who cares though? Grand Line is a dumb map anyway! And one Jaedong vs Stork match a night is too much match for the common Starcraft fan anyway! Hwaseung OZ 3 > 1 Samsung KHAN
On May 02 2010 11:05 FireGuyX wrote: Stork's pvz has improved, as a matter fact I consider him one of the best pvz programers right now along with Movie and JangBi.
Kal's PvZ is way better than JangBi's. especially now that he's in a slump. and i won't say that lightly, considering how much i like jangbi.
On May 02 2010 11:05 FireGuyX wrote: Stork's pvz has improved, as a matter fact I consider him one of the best pvz programers right now along with Movie and JangBi.
Kal's PvZ is way better than JangBi's. especially now that he's in a slump. and i won't say that lightly, considering how much i like jangbi.
On May 02 2010 11:19 majesty.k)seRapH wrote: oh, you're doing both LRs?
On May 02 2010 11:05 FireGuyX wrote: Stork's pvz has improved, as a matter fact I consider him one of the best pvz programers right now along with Movie and JangBi.
Kal's PvZ is way better than JangBi's. especially now that he's in a slump. and i won't say that lightly, considering how much i like jangbi.
On May 02 2010 11:19 majesty.k)seRapH wrote: oh, you're doing both LRs?
On May 02 2010 11:05 FireGuyX wrote: Stork's pvz has improved, as a matter fact I consider him one of the best pvz programers right now along with Movie and JangBi.
Kal's PvZ is way better than JangBi's. especially now that he's in a slump. and i won't say that lightly, considering how much i like jangbi.
On May 02 2010 11:19 majesty.k)seRapH wrote: oh, you're doing both LRs?
On May 02 2010 11:05 FireGuyX wrote: Stork's pvz has improved, as a matter fact I consider him one of the best pvz programers right now along with Movie and JangBi.
Kal's PvZ is way better than JangBi's. especially now that he's in a slump. and i won't say that lightly, considering how much i like jangbi.
On May 02 2010 11:19 majesty.k)seRapH wrote: oh, you're doing both LRs?
On May 02 2010 11:05 FireGuyX wrote: Stork's pvz has improved, as a matter fact I consider him one of the best pvz programers right now along with Movie and JangBi.
Kal's PvZ is way better than JangBi's. especially now that he's in a slump. and i won't say that lightly, considering how much i like jangbi.
why on earth would a progamer like stork not sacrifice one of his obs when he had both south and just look through the terrans base? why? because they are throwing games thats why!!!! =P
On May 02 2010 13:57 MuffinDude wrote: Terran is imba. No more dominant pvters out there now.
Haha come on man, you use that match? MnM is imba vs Protoss?
It was a BO loss.
Lol, didn't see it cause i was watching best v hoejja and was hoping to watch stork's match since pvt can take a while, but then i come and see stork lose. But still, no protoss is super good against terran anymore.
And I just played a pvt where I was ahead cause I deflected the terran's first two pushes with relative ease but i mis microed and lost my army and lost the game. I was just like wtffffffffffffff~.
On May 02 2010 14:01 tbrown47 wrote: Hey OP here, I didn't really get a good look at the games between updating the thread/streams crashing... anyone with opinion on recommended games?
didn't get a great look myself but the first one was standard kind of interesting TvT with significant wraith play, second was a quick PvT BO loss but nevertheless quite fun
On May 02 2010 13:57 MuffinDude wrote: Terran is imba. No more dominant pvters out there now.
Haha come on man, you use that match? MnM is imba vs Protoss?
It was a BO loss.
Lol, didn't see it cause i was watching best v hoejja and was hoping to watch stork's match since pvt can take a while, but then i come and see stork lose. But still, no protoss is super good against terran anymore.
And I just played a pvt where I was ahead cause I deflected the terran's first two pushes with relative ease but i mis microed and lost my army and lost the game. I was just like wtffffffffffffff~.
Well, a matchup isn't imbalanced because you make a gamebreaking mistake. :o
On May 02 2010 13:57 MuffinDude wrote: Terran is imba. No more dominant pvters out there now.
Haha come on man, you use that match? MnM is imba vs Protoss?
It was a BO loss.
Lol, didn't see it cause i was watching best v hoejja and was hoping to watch stork's match since pvt can take a while, but then i come and see stork lose. But still, no protoss is super good against terran anymore.
And I just played a pvt where I was ahead cause I deflected the terran's first two pushes with relative ease but i mis microed and lost my army and lost the game. I was just like wtffffffffffffff~.
Well, a matchup isn't imbalanced because you make a gamebreaking mistake. :o
Its not just meeeeeeee. Look at the protosses, do we have a protoss who is a monster at pvt right now?? No~~~~~~~~~~~. Why? Cause terran finally realized how imba they are. I think all zerg can agree with me that terran is imba.
On May 02 2010 13:57 MuffinDude wrote: Terran is imba. No more dominant pvters out there now.
Haha come on man, you use that match? MnM is imba vs Protoss?
It was a BO loss.
Lol, didn't see it cause i was watching best v hoejja and was hoping to watch stork's match since pvt can take a while, but then i come and see stork lose. But still, no protoss is super good against terran anymore.
And I just played a pvt where I was ahead cause I deflected the terran's first two pushes with relative ease but i mis microed and lost my army and lost the game. I was just like wtffffffffffffff~.
Well, a matchup isn't imbalanced because you make a gamebreaking mistake. :o
Its not just meeeeeeee. Look at the protosses, do we have a protoss who is a monster at pvt right now?? No~~~~~~~~~~~. Why? Cause terran finally realized how imba they are. I think all zerg can agree with me that terran is imba.
Ahaha, terran finally realized how imba they are.
Look man, the past couple of rounds of proleague have had hugely good terran maps along with Flash inflating stats across the board. It's not because Terran is inherently superior to all. For two years you couldn't have really answered me if I asked "Who's a monster TvPer?" besides maaaaaaybe Flash, and right now we have maaaaaaaaaaybe Kal/Stork/Free. Just because they lose to Build Orders or Flash doesn't mean Toss is terrible.
On May 02 2010 13:57 MuffinDude wrote: Terran is imba. No more dominant pvters out there now.
Haha come on man, you use that match? MnM is imba vs Protoss?
It was a BO loss.
Lol, didn't see it cause i was watching best v hoejja and was hoping to watch stork's match since pvt can take a while, but then i come and see stork lose. But still, no protoss is super good against terran anymore.
And I just played a pvt where I was ahead cause I deflected the terran's first two pushes with relative ease but i mis microed and lost my army and lost the game. I was just like wtffffffffffffff~.
Well, a matchup isn't imbalanced because you make a gamebreaking mistake. :o
Its not just meeeeeeee. Look at the protosses, do we have a protoss who is a monster at pvt right now?? No~~~~~~~~~~~. Why? Cause terran finally realized how imba they are. I think all zerg can agree with me that terran is imba.
Ahaha, terran finally realized how imba they are.
Look man, the past couple of rounds of proleague have had hugely good terran maps along with Flash inflating stats across the board. It's not because Terran is inherently superior to all. For two years you couldn't have really answered me if I asked "Who's a monster TvPer?" besides maaaaaaybe Flash, and right now we have maaaaaaaaaaybe Kal/Stork/Free. Just because they lose to Build Orders or Flash doesn't mean Toss is terrible.
On May 02 2010 14:14 JohnColtrane wrote: on a side note, what's with all these people getting 2 week bans in the last few days
Uh... Hot_bid had this lottery thing where if u win, you get beta key, if u lose u get temp banned. 20 people per drawing, so like lots of people got banned.
On May 02 2010 14:14 JohnColtrane wrote: on a side note, what's with all these people getting 2 week bans in the last few days
Uh... Hot_bid had this lottery thing where if u win, you get beta key, if u lose u get temp banned. 20 people per drawing, so like lots of people got banned.
On May 02 2010 14:15 sixduck wrote: haha is no gg, becoming jaedong's signature?
micro was sick that game.
If you watch his FPVODs, he's generally too busy macroing etc. at that point.
Yeah, I recall seeing an FPview right around GG time where he just flicked back to his hatcheries to do another round of macro while his opponent left the game.
Tbh I saw the short amount of PR pages and saw the line-up for Lomo vs Stork and I got afraid this was a 3-0 for Khan. Glad to see what actually happened tho.
I'm still just in shock on how Stork lost to Lomo on a decent P map and with his old signature unit.. and that last game was pretty intense.. JD micro > macro lol.
Lomo's M+M hit at the perfect time... Stork had already invested in his carriers + interceptors and probably wasnt making many dragoons (i think i even saw him cancel some carriers at the end of the game to queue up dragoons, too late though).
On May 03 2010 05:25 lone_hydra wrote: Wow, Wtf. Man, too many bad nights of starcraft. Pro Starcraft is sucking more and more for me. I really need to find some new players to root for.
Based on your sig your life must suck right now. Hopefully you aren't a Raiders fan too.
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). Every single freakin' match they play seems to come to an epic ace match or a completely disheartening letdown, no matter who they are playing. Every match seems to play out this way... and I guess that is why I keep coming back. The thrill of the game. Anywho, Hwaseung OZ... what do they have going for them? 
Jaedong obviously, and I don't want to talk to much about him, because people seem to know what place hes in. He is above the general average, but below the 
HiyA, obviously. He has been playing a lot stronger as of late, in my opinion. And I think he will show he is a dangerous Terran to underestimate. On the other hand... both 
Stork and ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/players/205.jpg)
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But Jangbi wont be bad either,
