On March 05 2010 05:33 Tempest[OEC] wrote: Bisu-Stork-Jaedong-Flash Semifinals would be so epic. But IMO if Bisu can pick up his PvZ just a little more (and advance through this group lol), a Bisu vs Jaedong finals would be just as epic as Jaedong/Flash or Stork/Flash final.
What? Jaedong is so much better than Bisu is right now a finals between them would be a one sided rape.
Though Stork/Bisu have produced some really amazing PvP's in their own right.
Id have to disagree. Jaedong definitely hasnt been playing his best in WL (not pulling out the s-word). Neither has Bisu but he pulls off several games and his losses were not one-sided rapes either. But I guess a Stork/Jaedong finals would be better? Lol. I want to see a PvZ final in the OSL. Stork and Bisu seem to have the highest chance imo.
The important thing to look at is not result. Calm played like crap in so many of his games but he won anyway because his opponents were worse.
Zero lost so many games not long time ago, but he played amazing in all of them. I'd rate Zero as a far better player.
Although Jaedong's WL performance is lacklustering comparing to last year, his skill level has not decreased from what I have seen. The problem is, JvZ is no longer an imba match up. Unlike Flash, Jaedong is very vulnerable to sniping. The same applied to Effort, who got frustrated when he kept on getting sniped in WL due to ZvZ.
even if bisu somehow manages to get past modesty he will get raped by any sort of timing push by go.go. go.go is the best player in this group anyways.
I believe in the Legendary Protoss! I know he's had some dissapointing performances but I definately don't think he's fallen from his perch as a champion contender. Still deciding whether or not to stay up n watch the games or not.. Bisu's the only one i'd do it for!
On March 04 2010 10:33 Sentenal wrote: Bisu has had worse "slumps" than what he is in now. I believe. gogo can't beat Bisu twice with bio.
Wasn't that into SC gaming before, could've you point out what time did Bisu had his last big slump?
Actually, Bisu only had one huge slump that's worth mentioning. But it was pretty huge and lasted pretty damn long. It was after he lost to Mind in his third MSL final, and then lost in the OSL semifinal to bring only the bronze (if he had won both, he would have been labeled the fifth Bonjwa). Right after that, he started a mysterious slump when he failed to make out of his MSL group consisted of noobie players and continued onward from there. Best actually had to carry SKT in the proleague and was the SKT ace player. I think it was also around then that SKT completely lost its aura of invincibility as the proleague power house due to the decline of Boxer/Iloveoov combo. Bisu and JulyZerg, big names that SKT bought in, did not improve their proleague record. It more or less led to the former-coach of SKT being fired and the new head coach brought in, who did some magic voodoo and made everything better again.
Then Bisu reemerged like almost a year later, finally won his third MSL title against Jangbi, started raping everybody again like a bonjwa. His final requirement that he needed before getting the "b" word was defeating Jaedong in the OSL final.
Then Fantasy 3-0 Bisu in the semi.
That's the end of Bisu's shot at the "b" word. Since then, his dominance is on a steady decline, to the point when we have to pray to Adun in order to ensure that Bisu makes out of this laughable qualification group.
wait, people really would've thought Bisu was a bonjwa if he won the OSL after 2 and a half seasons of slumping?
He would've won MSL, OSL and GOM, not to mention he had a 80% win rate in proleague. Damn impressive. Not to mention in the past the bonjwas followed a trend of winning 3 MSLs, then winning an OSL. Bisu looked to follow that, until Fantasy schooled him -_-
yeah, only his third MSL win came 3 seasons after his second one.
I mean Bisu is great and all but I think it's maniacal to think if he had won that OSL he would've been some Protoss Bonjwa. 2 back to back title runs is cool and all but not when they're separated by nearly 2 years. I mean hell, Bonjwas had a habit of dominating as long as it took Bisu to dominate, slump, and almost dominate again.
Modesty is an abysmal 36% lifetime ZvPer facing off against arguably the best PvZer of all time who just happened to destroy him in the midst of a slump a couple weeks back. I don't see why people are picking Bisu to drop a set to Modesty.
On March 05 2010 05:33 Tempest[OEC] wrote: Bisu-Stork-Jaedong-Flash Semifinals would be so epic. But IMO if Bisu can pick up his PvZ just a little more (and advance through this group lol), a Bisu vs Jaedong finals would be just as epic as Jaedong/Flash or Stork/Flash final.
What? Jaedong is so much better than Bisu is right now a finals between them would be a one sided rape.
Though Stork/Bisu have produced some really amazing PvP's in their own right.
Id have to disagree. Jaedong definitely hasnt been playing his best in WL (not pulling out the s-word). Neither has Bisu but he pulls off several games and his losses were not one-sided rapes either. But I guess a Stork/Jaedong finals would be better? Lol. I want to see a PvZ final in the OSL. Stork and Bisu seem to have the highest chance imo.
The important thing to look at is not result. Calm played like crap in so many of his games but he won anyway because his opponents were worse.
Zero lost so many games not long time ago, but he played amazing in all of them. I'd rate Zero as a far better player.
Although Jaedong's WL performance is lacklustering comparing to last year, his skill level has not decreased from what I have seen. The problem is, JvZ is no longer an imba match up. Unlike Flash, Jaedong is very vulnerable to sniping. The same applied to Effort, who got frustrated when he kept on getting sniped in WL due to ZvZ.
The man speaks truth!! That's why Calm hasn't been on the PR in a while lol
On March 04 2010 10:33 Sentenal wrote: Bisu has had worse "slumps" than what he is in now. I believe. gogo can't beat Bisu twice with bio.
Wasn't that into SC gaming before, could've you point out what time did Bisu had his last big slump?
Actually, Bisu only had one huge slump that's worth mentioning. But it was pretty huge and lasted pretty damn long. It was after he lost to Mind in his third MSL final, and then lost in the OSL semifinal to bring only the bronze (if he had won both, he would have been labeled the fifth Bonjwa). Right after that, he started a mysterious slump when he failed to make out of his MSL group consisted of noobie players and continued onward from there. Best actually had to carry SKT in the proleague and was the SKT ace player. I think it was also around then that SKT completely lost its aura of invincibility as the proleague power house due to the decline of Boxer/Iloveoov combo. Bisu and JulyZerg, big names that SKT bought in, did not improve their proleague record. It more or less led to the former-coach of SKT being fired and the new head coach brought in, who did some magic voodoo and made everything better again.
Then Bisu reemerged like almost a year later, finally won his third MSL title against Jangbi, started raping everybody again like a bonjwa. His final requirement that he needed before getting the "b" word was defeating Jaedong in the OSL final.
Then Fantasy 3-0 Bisu in the semi.
That's the end of Bisu's shot at the "b" word. Since then, his dominance is on a steady decline, to the point when we have to pray to Adun in order to ensure that Bisu makes out of this laughable qualification group.
wait, people really would've thought Bisu was a bonjwa if he won the OSL after 2 and a half seasons of slumping?
He would've won MSL, OSL and GOM, not to mention he had a 80% win rate in proleague. Damn impressive. Not to mention in the past the bonjwas followed a trend of winning 3 MSLs, then winning an OSL. Bisu looked to follow that, until Fantasy schooled him -_-
yeah, only his third MSL win came 3 seasons after his second one.
I mean Bisu is great and all but I think it's maniacal to think if he had won that OSL he would've been some Protoss Bonjwa. 2 back to back title runs is cool and all but not when they're separated by nearly 2 years. I mean hell, Bonjwas had a habit of dominating as long as it took Bisu to dominate, slump, and almost dominate again.
Winning all three individual leagues simultaneously plus dominating proleague doesnt qualify for the b-word? That time is long past though, hopefully he doesnt embarrass himself again.
Bisu is still one of the most talented Brood War players in the scene right now, and that hasn't changed. People predicting Modesty of all people to beat him are crazy. But I guess crazier things have happened, but its just not very likely.
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