On March 05 2010 17:44 NovaTheFeared wrote: This is just the kind of powerhouse group that Bisu will have trouble overcoming.
Haha... Sad, but true. I think Bisu is the only person out of Lee-Ssang-Taek-Bang that got a proven track record of losing to no namers?
I remember when I first started following the pro-scene, Bisu and Jaedong were the hottest two. The thing that I remember the most about Bisu is that his record book seemed messed up to me. He defeats strong players ezpz, yet he always drop couple of games to low level players every month, while Jaedong doesn't do that.
Stork nowadays has a tendency to play great games against top tier gamers, and play really poorly against no namers. Him and Bisu make a living outta doing such things. However, as of recent, Stork's been a lot more stable than Bisu has been.
On March 04 2010 10:33 Sentenal wrote: Bisu has had worse "slumps" than what he is in now. I believe. gogo can't beat Bisu twice with bio.
Wasn't that into SC gaming before, could've you point out what time did Bisu had his last big slump?
Actually, Bisu only had one huge slump that's worth mentioning. But it was pretty huge and lasted pretty damn long. It was after he lost to Mind in his third MSL final, and then lost in the OSL semifinal to bring only the bronze (if he had won both, he would have been labeled the fifth Bonjwa). Right after that, he started a mysterious slump when he failed to make out of his MSL group consisted of noobie players and continued onward from there. Best actually had to carry SKT in the proleague and was the SKT ace player. I think it was also around then that SKT completely lost its aura of invincibility as the proleague power house due to the decline of Boxer/Iloveoov combo. Bisu and JulyZerg, big names that SKT bought in, did not improve their proleague record. It more or less led to the former-coach of SKT being fired and the new head coach brought in, who did some magic voodoo and made everything better again.
Then Bisu reemerged like almost a year later, finally won his third MSL title against Jangbi, started raping everybody again like a bonjwa. His final requirement that he needed before getting the "b" word was defeating Jaedong in the OSL final.
Then Fantasy 3-0 Bisu in the semi.
That's the end of Bisu's shot at the "b" word. Since then, his dominance is on a steady decline, to the point when we have to pray to Adun in order to ensure that Bisu makes out of this laughable qualification group.
wait, people really would've thought Bisu was a bonjwa if he won the OSL after 2 and a half seasons of slumping?
He would've won MSL, OSL and GOM, not to mention he had a 80% win rate in proleague. Damn impressive. Not to mention in the past the bonjwas followed a trend of winning 3 MSLs, then winning an OSL. Bisu looked to follow that, until Fantasy schooled him -_-
yeah, only his third MSL win came 3 seasons after his second one.
I mean Bisu is great and all but I think it's maniacal to think if he had won that OSL he would've been some Protoss Bonjwa. 2 back to back title runs is cool and all but not when they're separated by nearly 2 years. I mean hell, Bonjwas had a habit of dominating as long as it took Bisu to dominate, slump, and almost dominate again.
Winning all three individual leagues simultaneously plus dominating proleague doesnt qualify for the b-word?
I'm not sure you know what you're talking about. Clubday -- his third MSL -- was a season prior to the OSL that Fantasy knocked him out of. Bisu was never close to winning both titles in one season. The person who won the MSL next to Jaedong's defeat of Fantasy was Luxury over Jangbi.
Thus my phrasing, back-to-back titles. And also why it would be 2 years and not like 1 and 3/4ths, as that particular OSL ended after march 3rd 09.
I mean, when he lost to Fantasy in the OSL was the same season he got kicked out of the MSL in an all zerg group of his own choosing (Remember, the one with savior?) -- possibly Bisu's biggest blunder
On March 04 2010 10:33 Sentenal wrote: Bisu has had worse "slumps" than what he is in now. I believe. gogo can't beat Bisu twice with bio.
Wasn't that into SC gaming before, could've you point out what time did Bisu had his last big slump?
Actually, Bisu only had one huge slump that's worth mentioning. But it was pretty huge and lasted pretty damn long. It was after he lost to Mind in his third MSL final, and then lost in the OSL semifinal to bring only the bronze (if he had won both, he would have been labeled the fifth Bonjwa). Right after that, he started a mysterious slump when he failed to make out of his MSL group consisted of noobie players and continued onward from there. Best actually had to carry SKT in the proleague and was the SKT ace player. I think it was also around then that SKT completely lost its aura of invincibility as the proleague power house due to the decline of Boxer/Iloveoov combo. Bisu and JulyZerg, big names that SKT bought in, did not improve their proleague record. It more or less led to the former-coach of SKT being fired and the new head coach brought in, who did some magic voodoo and made everything better again.
Then Bisu reemerged like almost a year later, finally won his third MSL title against Jangbi, started raping everybody again like a bonjwa. His final requirement that he needed before getting the "b" word was defeating Jaedong in the OSL final.
Then Fantasy 3-0 Bisu in the semi.
That's the end of Bisu's shot at the "b" word. Since then, his dominance is on a steady decline, to the point when we have to pray to Adun in order to ensure that Bisu makes out of this laughable qualification group.
wait, people really would've thought Bisu was a bonjwa if he won the OSL after 2 and a half seasons of slumping?
He would've won MSL, OSL and GOM, not to mention he had a 80% win rate in proleague. Damn impressive. Not to mention in the past the bonjwas followed a trend of winning 3 MSLs, then winning an OSL. Bisu looked to follow that, until Fantasy schooled him -_-
yeah, only his third MSL win came 3 seasons after his second one.
I mean Bisu is great and all but I think it's maniacal to think if he had won that OSL he would've been some Protoss Bonjwa. 2 back to back title runs is cool and all but not when they're separated by nearly 2 years. I mean hell, Bonjwas had a habit of dominating as long as it took Bisu to dominate, slump, and almost dominate again.
Winning all three individual leagues simultaneously plus dominating proleague doesnt qualify for the b-word?
I'm not sure you know what you're talking about. Clubday -- his third MSL -- was a season prior to the OSL that Fantasy knocked him out of. Bisu was never close to winning both titles in one season. The person who won the MSL next to Jaedong's defeat of Fantasy was Luxury over Jangbi.
Thus my phrasing, back-to-back titles. And also why it would be 2 years and not like 1 and 3/4ths, as that particular OSL ended after march 3rd 09.
meh, i quoted someone else trusting that he knew what he was talking about. probably should self-research before trusting people on the internet.
On March 04 2010 10:33 Sentenal wrote: Bisu has had worse "slumps" than what he is in now. I believe. gogo can't beat Bisu twice with bio.
Wasn't that into SC gaming before, could've you point out what time did Bisu had his last big slump?
Actually, Bisu only had one huge slump that's worth mentioning. But it was pretty huge and lasted pretty damn long. It was after he lost to Mind in his third MSL final, and then lost in the OSL semifinal to bring only the bronze (if he had won both, he would have been labeled the fifth Bonjwa). Right after that, he started a mysterious slump when he failed to make out of his MSL group consisted of noobie players and continued onward from there. Best actually had to carry SKT in the proleague and was the SKT ace player. I think it was also around then that SKT completely lost its aura of invincibility as the proleague power house due to the decline of Boxer/Iloveoov combo. Bisu and JulyZerg, big names that SKT bought in, did not improve their proleague record. It more or less led to the former-coach of SKT being fired and the new head coach brought in, who did some magic voodoo and made everything better again.
Then Bisu reemerged like almost a year later, finally won his third MSL title against Jangbi, started raping everybody again like a bonjwa. His final requirement that he needed before getting the "b" word was defeating Jaedong in the OSL final.
Then Fantasy 3-0 Bisu in the semi.
That's the end of Bisu's shot at the "b" word. Since then, his dominance is on a steady decline, to the point when we have to pray to Adun in order to ensure that Bisu makes out of this laughable qualification group.
wait, people really would've thought Bisu was a bonjwa if he won the OSL after 2 and a half seasons of slumping?
He would've won MSL, OSL and GOM, not to mention he had a 80% win rate in proleague. Damn impressive. Not to mention in the past the bonjwas followed a trend of winning 3 MSLs, then winning an OSL. Bisu looked to follow that, until Fantasy schooled him -_-
yeah, only his third MSL win came 3 seasons after his second one.
I mean Bisu is great and all but I think it's maniacal to think if he had won that OSL he would've been some Protoss Bonjwa. 2 back to back title runs is cool and all but not when they're separated by nearly 2 years. I mean hell, Bonjwas had a habit of dominating as long as it took Bisu to dominate, slump, and almost dominate again.
Winning all three individual leagues simultaneously plus dominating proleague doesnt qualify for the b-word?
I'm not sure you know what you're talking about. Clubday -- his third MSL -- was a season prior to the OSL that Fantasy knocked him out of. Bisu was never close to winning both titles in one season. The person who won the MSL next to Jaedong's defeat of Fantasy was Luxury over Jangbi.
Thus my phrasing, back-to-back titles. And also why it would be 2 years and not like 1 and 3/4ths, as that particular OSL ended after march 3rd 09.
meh, i quoted someone else trusting that he knew what he was talking about. probably should self-research before trusting people on the internet.
Yeah, it's cool, but you can see where my skepticism on someone going "He would've been bonjwa if he won the osl!" when he gets kicked out of his self made group stages, and slumped half of his career between periods of domination that lasted exactly 2 seasons.
It is sad that both Stork and Bisu seem to do this. Atm Stork really could be the 3ed player next to Flash and Jaedong to dominate and win titles. But he keep losing games to weak players for some reason.
His brilliant play vs the top guys dont matter if he loses to noobs in the early stages of MSL and OSL.
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