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[Polls/Live] TL Arena V

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deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-31 06:56:39
January 29 2010 01:06 GMT
#1
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Poll/Live Topic

Pholon's Livestream

Announcement

Broadcast
+ Show Spoiler [Broadcast Time] +
       [image loading] 11:00PM PST, Saturday 30th Jan.
       [image loading] 2:00AM EST, Sunday 31st Jan.
       [image loading] 8:00AM CET, Sunday 31st Jan.
       [image loading] 4:00PM KST, Sunday 31st Jan.
       [image loading] 6:00PM AEST, Sunday 31st Jan.

There's about two day left to the live event, vote here on your picks for the TL-submitted Map and Handicaps!

To those selected, please be in the channel TL-Arena before the designated time and whisper to iCCup.Raelcun, Pholon or iCCup.Del so we know you're there. If you play make sure you have Antihack ON. If you lag excessively we may use a replacement.

Those players designated as reserves should also turn up on time as if you are not available when whispered you will be replaced. If they also fail to show we start going down the list of people who left their ID in the announcement topic.


Pre-Match Interviews
+ Show Spoiler [Legionnaire] +

You seem to be playing more often recently - is there a reason for this increased activity? -deL

I hadn't played in a long time, and i came back to play in TSL. Then the Aus SOO event was on, and QLD (Queensland, the state Peter lives in here -deL) weren't doing so well, so i had to help out my fellow Queenslanders! Beyond that i don't intend to become active again, maybe just play a game here and there for fun. -Leg

Do you expect it to continue or are you still playing just off the excitement of the TSL? -deL

Probably die off. Pending sc2. -Leg

How do you predict you will do in this event? How many wins will you get? -deL

I expect a perfect record up until they take my shuttles away from me. I have no idea, its the luck of the draw which disadvantage i get taken away early, and vs which race i then come up against.
Later matches will probably be very challenging. -Leg

Are there any handicaps that stand out for you as being very difficult or interesting? -deL

Each individually seems fine, theres always other builds that you can do to overcome the disadvantage. But with the compounding of handicaps, thats when it becomes tough. For example, no zealots and no carriers isn't so bad. But no zealots and double upgrade buildings (or no goon range)? Now that becomes tough. -Leg

Are there any D to C players you are really hoping sign up so that you can play against them? Who and why? -deL

Not really. Maybe those who didn't play in TSL or other events, as it might get them more involved in the sc community. I'm happy playing anyone, regardless of skill. -Leg

Who would you really like to see participate in TL-Arena after you? -deL

Lim Yo Hwan. -Leg

+ Show Spoiler [Pholon] +
Pholon is the mastermind behind the TL Arena idea, and has played a large part in all TL Arena events to date.

This is the 5th (hopefully) successful TeamLiquid Arena that you are going to be a part of - what were your expectations for TL Arena and how have they been fulfilled? -deL

When Leperkahn (shoutout!) and I first started out we were kind of tentative about approaching one of these top-notch players and not fucking up. I owe massive thanks to Shauni for putting up with us, I owe him a lot. Although some things went wrong, we got a huge amount of positive feedback. From there on I just saw what else I could do – I don’t have many expectations. -Pholon

What are the future plans for TL Arena - continuation of the series or will you move on to other ideas? Any sneak peeks for us? -deL

After that first one it was pretty easy sailing and we actually have people lining up now. It's amazing how many great players are participating. So as far as future plans go I just want to keep improving and going. I do have some ambitious ideas, but we’ll see. -Pholon

What do you know about Legionnaire? How will he fare in comparison to the previous players? -deL

I’m still letting the fact that Leg is gonna be on sink in. His era was before my time (unfortunately) but I am aware of what he did and I’m really really excited he’ll be playing. As for how he’ll do I feel some handicaps are a bit timid so he should get pretty far. I hope he’ll get taken down in game 6 or 7 though :D -Pholon

+ Show Spoiler [Sotanath] +
[AU][T] Sotanath will be the first player to face Legionnaire in this event.

Some people might recognise your name from being one of the players to face NaDa in Sydney - how did you get so lucky? Will this experience help you? -deL

Turning up does wonders for your chances; all the capable Sydney players had holiday/work commitments so I got a lucky break. The experience was great but only furthers the intimidation factor of playing an ex-progamer like Leg. -Sotanath

How confident are you on Tau Cross, and do you have any special builds planned or any handicaps that you would especially find useful? -deL

I’m going to have to go into the archives and find a better/cheesier way to play this map because my past record against D+/C- tosses has been pretty miserable. I’m really hoping for “For Aiur” as that could be both crippling and humorous. -Sotanath

You're playing arguably the gretest and most well-known Australian player - are you a bit star struck or is he just another opponent? -deL

I’m really looking forward to it but will treat him like any other protoss and hope for the best. -Sotanath

How many beers will you buy Del when he gets back to Sydney after you got into this event? -deL

Well that makes it the 2nd event in which I’ve got to play a progamer all thanks to Del so I’ll be sure to shout him a middy. -Sotanath

+ Show Spoiler [Grobyc] +
[CA][P] Grobyc is a Protoss reserve player and maker of the map Efreet

Your map is leading in the polls - can you give the public more reason to keep supporting it for use in the event? -deL

I'm glad to see that ^^. The poll was up before I updated it and made some changes to increase balance and playability, so I'm hoping it will become even more popular now. Please keep voting! -Grobyc

What kind of play or strategies did you expect to be utilised when you designed the map? Can you give players on it any tips? -deL

Initially, when I designed it I had intended on a focus around standard play, but with opportunities to take risks and maintain an economic lead over your opponent. This can be noticed by destructible buildings and by having multiple choices for a third expansion for example. Since Leg will have handicaps, I can see him trying to take risks here to keep a lead, so keep that in mind. -Grobyc

If you get the chance to play, do you have any special tactics planned and what handicap would you want? -deL

Cheesing has never been my thing, so I plan on playing rather straight up regardless, but I will definitely try to capitalize on his handicaps. I think it would be fun to see how he improvises with No Overlay, Power Outage, and/or for Auir!. -Grobyc

+ Show Spoiler [Stroggos] +
[NZ][Z] stroggos may face Leg on Outsider

You're the only New Zealand player to sign up despite the convenient time and fellow Oceanic player - what is the state of SC in NZ at the moment? -deL

Well, i havn't actually been in the starcraft community for as long as most of the other players. So it would be hard for me to compare the nz starcraft community to what it used to be like. We have a strong but small community, as New Zealand has a starcraft website: starcraft.co.nz. And in my city Christchurch we have starcraft RL meetups, where we watch dissapointing msl finals and cheese each other on bgh. -stroggos

Are you a Legionnaire fan for the Oceania area he represents or an anti-fan because he is Australian? -deL

Legionnaire ftw. Even though hes an Australian, and Australians are dirty criminals like the Terrans, legionnaire is representing something that is unique, not many progamers come out of a southern hemisphere country. Also he can lift the weights. -stroggos

If you play, do you have any ideas on how you will approach your game? Any handicap that you would like to play against? -deL

I'm pretty much praying for no zealots or give vision. protoss with no zealots is just fail against zerg, unless of course he does something gay like mass DT's or mass cannons on outsider then push out. i have some build orders prepared for that. Give vision is great as well, i could take shortcuts on my build orders, know when to do a ling runby..stuff like that. -stroggos

Realistically, how far do you think the 'hero' will get in terms of games won? -deL

I think he will win most of his games, I actually don't think the handicaps will matter too much when he can still outmicro everyone. Everyone who has a game against him really needs to take advantage of the handicap to beat him. and leg needs to prepare for how someone could take advantage of his penalty. -stroggos

+ Show Spoiler [Ziph] +

It seemed from your application that you are a Leg fan - can you elaborate? -deL

No. Barely know the dude as i'm a fairly new player in the scene. Started playing after the Razer-TSL so I don't know that much about players before that time. Though hes a Protoss player the only race I have respect for. Terrans and Zergs are just to fucking imbalanced ^^. -Ziph

If you get the chance to play, do you have any builds or strategies planned out? What handicap would you most like to be up against? -deL

If i get the chance to play? Didn't I get picked already. Anyway I hope that by the time I have to play he has -no Obs- which i think is the hardest handicap for PvP. What the fuck are you gonna do against DT's without observers. and if I survive any kind of gay cheese I'm pretty sure I could win. -Ziph

What can viewers expect from your game - will you try to put on a show, try to be competitive, or just try to stay alive? -deL

Well i'm a super standard player kinda like Idra, this doesn't mean i won't cheese or anything though. It all depends on what handicaps he gets. Of course i'm going to to be competitive and try to win. I don't really know how good he really is, never seen him play but think it would be a fairly decent game atleast. -Ziph

+ Show Spoiler [LinXe] +
[GB][Z] LinXe is the highest ranked competitor to be taking on Leg

As the highest ranked player for the 'fodder' you are under some pressure to finish it - do you think Leg will go all the way if you lose? -deL

Looking at the competitors, Legionnaire has got to go against quite a difficult group of people with a lot of C- players to attempt to beat. If he were to beat me he would then face the 2 lowest ranked opponents so I suspect he might come out 8-0 in that scenario. That said I fully intend to swarm my way to victory ^^ -LinXe

Leg will have 6 handicaps by the time he reaches you - what would be your ideal set of handicaps and do you have any particular strategies planned? -deL

Power Outage, For Auir, No Zealots, No Goon Range, Give Vision, Double Tech.

This would be, at a brief glance, 6 handicaps that I think would be insurmountable. Having any two of those as handicaps would be great (for me!)
I don’t have any strategies prepared as I suspect it would be better to improve it based on the handicaps. I have however been constantly practicing my 5pool for the last 3 years on the offchance I would face Legionnaire in a SC Community event so that’s a consideration. -LinXe


If the infamous Europe-Australia latency is present who do you think it will favour? How do you expect to perform with some lag? -deL

Never actually heard that Euro-Australia was renowned for lag, hopefully there will be none as I personally find lag extremely frustrating, but sometimes it’s unavoidable. I don’t think lag would favor anyone, and lag or no lag I will be trying my hardest to win! -LinXe




Matches

Game 1: (P)(au)Legionnaire vs. [image loading] [image loading] Sotanath on Tau Cross

Game 2: (P)(au)Legionnaire vs. [image loading] [image loading] Mystlord on Judgment Day

Game 3: (P)(au)Legionnaire vs. [image loading] [image loading] infinity21 on Eye of the Storm

Game 4: (P)(au)Legionnaire vs. [image loading] [image loading] mG.Ziph on Fighting Spirit

Game 5: (P)(au)Legionnaire vs. [image loading] [image loading] stroggos on Outsider SE

Game 6: (P)(au)Legionnaire vs. [image loading] [image loading] LinXe on Match Point

Game 7: (P)(au)Legionnaire vs. [image loading] [image loading] TSL-kOre on Heartbreak Ridge

Game 8: (P)(au)Legionnaire vs. [image loading] [image loading] 1m1s)narcotics on TL Submission Map

Players
+ Show Spoiler [Players] +
Terran (3)

[image loading][image loading] 1m1s)narcotics [D] @ TL Submission
[image loading][image loading] infinity21 [C-] @ Eye of the Storm
[image loading][image loading] Sotanath [C-] @ Tau Cross

Zerg (3)

[image loading][image loading] stroggos [C-] @ Outsider
[image loading][image loading] Mystlord [C-] @ Judgment Day
[image loading][image loading] LinXe [C] @ Match Point

Protoss (2)

[image loading][image loading] TSL-kOre [D+] @ Heartbreak Ridge
[image loading][image loading] mG.Ziph [C-] @ Fighting Spirit

Replacements
+ Show Spoiler [Replacements] +
Terran (2)

#1 [image loading][image loading] Brontosaurex [D+]
#2 [image loading][image loading] OakHill [C-]

Zerg (2)

#1 [image loading][image loading] Undeadhunter [D]
#2 [image loading][image loading] peanutter [C-]

Protoss (2)

#1 [image loading][image loading] mG.Grobyc [C]
#2 [image loading][image loading] TSL.XsebT [C-]



Maps

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Poll: TL Submitted Map?
(Vote): DMZ
(Vote): River of Flames
(Vote): Battle Royal
(Vote): Efreet

+ Show Spoiler [Map Information] +

DMZ
From Liquipedia: A 2v2 map, DMZ was quickly retired from competition because SCV-rushing the other team's Zerg player was nearly impossible to counter.
The corridors are covers with Disruption Webs. This is definitely something else.
+ Show Spoiler [image] +
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River of Flames
Pretty old map that was last used in 2003. Swastika-shaped, ridiculously far natural and 4 island expansion. Very plain overall.
+ Show Spoiler [image] +
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Battle Royal
Notorious ZvZ map with 37 games played in that match-up. Has quite a few gimmicky neutral Assimilators and buildings around.
+ Show Spoiler [image] +
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Efreet
Desert map made by Grobyc. Topic here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=110944
+ Show Spoiler [image] +
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Handicaps

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Poll: TL Submitted Handicaps?
(Vote): No Minimap
(Vote): Kill Initial Probe
(Vote): No Forge Upgrades
(Vote): No Overlay
(Vote): Power Outage
(Vote): For Aiur!
(Vote): Thunder from down Under

+ Show Spoiler [Handicap Information] +


No Minimap
by Pholon

The hero must cover up their minimap with a post-it note or similar.

Kill Initial Probe
by RoSe.

The hero starts the game with 3 probes after killing the fourth as the game starts.

No Forge Upgrades
by Pholon

No ground weapons, ground armour or plasma shield upgrades.

No Overlay
by iCCup.deL

Cover up the overlay on the screen that shows minerals, vespene gas and supply count.

Power Outage
by Nao

As soon as a pylon finishes warping, get a probe to start attacking it.

For Aiur!
by pyrogenix

Everytime a probe warps in a building, dreams of the homeland force it to charge the enemy - sacrificing itself.

The Thunder from Down Under
by iCCup.deL

High Templar are the only templar allowed to be made, and they may not be warped into archons.


+ Show Spoiler [Other Handicaps] +

Unit and Building Restrictions
  • No Zealots - Legionnaire cannot use this basic Protoss unit
  • No Observers - Vital for Protoss' mobile detection capabilities
  • Gateway cap - A maximum of five gateways may be on the map at one time
  • Gas cap - Our hero is restricted to only one assimilator during the match
  • No Shuttles - A favourite unit of Leg, how will his reaver micro be without his characteristic shuttle?
  • No Arbiters - Leg has never been known for his arbiter use, preferring carriers, but will he regret not using them when he had the chance?

Upgrade Restrictions
  • No Zealot Legs - Leg's zealots will tend more to amble about and admire the scenery
  • No Goon Range - This is a unique handicap as it will hurt both early and late game
  • No Psi Storm - Now those shuttles will only have room for reavers
  • No Interceptor Upgrade - Now they are only half a free win

Miscellaneous Handicaps
  • Give Vision - Legionnaire will surrender vision to his opponent with this handicap
  • No Rally Points - No rally points may be set outside the player's base
  • Double Tech - Any tech building will have to be built twice before it can be utilised
  • TL Submission 1 - Submit your own Handicap idea below!
  • TL Submission 2 - The best submissions will be chosen
  • TL Submission 3 - The creators will go down in TL-Arena history



What's all this then?


New to TL-Arena? Find out more!

+ Show Spoiler [More Information] +
From TL's own Liquidpedia
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Pholon/TLArena/Overview

The TeamLiquid Arena event (or TL-Arena for short) was based on a minigame found in the Gold Saucer, a casino slash entertainment park in the game Final Fantasy 7. Said minigame, called the Arena, would require you to pick one of your characters and fight off 8 monsters. After every victory a slot machine would determine a handicap for the player (e.g. broken weapon, no magic etc). These handicaps would stack, making your character weaker and weaker as he progresses. It required you to defeat all the monsters to win the game.

TeamLiquid Arena invites a prominent player from the StarCraft scene and pitches this player versus several players of a much lower level. After every win, a handicap, picked randomly from a predetermined pool, is assigned to this player and stacks with any previously begotten handicaps. The events are broadcasted and commented live.
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deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
January 29 2010 01:06 GMT
#2
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Poll: How many wins for Leg?
(Vote): 0
(Vote): 1
(Vote): 2
(Vote): 3
(Vote): 4
(Vote): 5
(Vote): 6
(Vote): 7
(Vote): 8

Gaming videos for fun ~ http://www.youtube.com/user/WijLopenLos
deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
January 29 2010 01:10 GMT
#3
Lots of C- o_o gonna be hard.
Gaming videos for fun ~ http://www.youtube.com/user/WijLopenLos
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
January 29 2010 01:10 GMT
#4
gl wink toss <3
hyst.eric.al
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2332 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-29 01:27:28
January 29 2010 01:22 GMT
#5
HOLY CRAP THEY PICKED ME :O

i must practice.

EDIT: are the games chronological?
Leta , BeSt, Calm fan forever! 김정우, I am sorry I ever lost faith in you.
deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
January 29 2010 01:24 GMT
#6
On January 29 2010 10:22 hyst.eric.al wrote:
HOLY CRAP THEY PICKED ME :O

i must practice.

If by 'they' you mean a random number generator and by 'picked' you mean your number came up, then yeah :D
Gaming videos for fun ~ http://www.youtube.com/user/WijLopenLos
hyst.eric.al
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2332 Posts
January 29 2010 01:28 GMT
#7
On January 29 2010 10:24 iCCup.deL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2010 10:22 hyst.eric.al wrote:
HOLY CRAP THEY PICKED ME :O

i must practice.

If by 'they' you mean a random number generator and by 'picked' you mean your number came up, then yeah :D
i'm EST; since im the last game, does that mean i play at like 4 or 5am?
Leta , BeSt, Calm fan forever! 김정우, I am sorry I ever lost faith in you.
deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
January 29 2010 01:29 GMT
#8
On January 29 2010 10:28 hyst.eric.al wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2010 10:24 iCCup.deL wrote:
On January 29 2010 10:22 hyst.eric.al wrote:
HOLY CRAP THEY PICKED ME :O

i must practice.

If by 'they' you mean a random number generator and by 'picked' you mean your number came up, then yeah :D
i'm EST; since im the last game, does that mean i play at like 4 or 5am?

Yeah but if Leg loses earlier the final game will be played after it to ensure the TL map and handicap are used.
Gaming videos for fun ~ http://www.youtube.com/user/WijLopenLos
Soledad
Profile Joined January 2010
United States37 Posts
January 29 2010 02:12 GMT
#9
gl D noobies everywhere will rejoice when the aussie gets beaten down with clubs and sticks and legions of unforgiving and ravenous D players everywhere
ㅋㄲㅈㅁ
laLAlA[uC]
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada963 Posts
January 29 2010 02:12 GMT
#10
):
I didn't get picked. AGAIN. ):
I'm an old man now
Kiante
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7069 Posts
January 29 2010 02:37 GMT
#11
sif not pick any of my handicaps
Writer
XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
January 29 2010 02:47 GMT
#12
oh wowzor, im gonna have to train up for this xD Matchpoint only for next 2 days!

Adonai bless
Danger_Duck
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Burkina Faso571 Posts
January 29 2010 02:49 GMT
#13
Handicap:

Pylon Clutter:
All pylons (aside from the first) must be placed next to an existing pylon.
TBA
XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
January 29 2010 02:53 GMT
#14
Double or Nothing!

For every Pylon he must make 2, apart from the first.
Adonai bless
infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
January 29 2010 03:08 GMT
#15
nice :D
Official Entusman #21
kOre
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada3642 Posts
January 29 2010 03:13 GMT
#16
Guess I should practice ... btw Leg PvP :D :D :D
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deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
January 29 2010 03:27 GMT
#17
If you have been selected to play or act in reserves please post here to confirm that you can make it.
Gaming videos for fun ~ http://www.youtube.com/user/WijLopenLos
XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
January 29 2010 03:37 GMT
#18
I can make it.
Adonai bless
Ziph
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Netherlands970 Posts
January 29 2010 03:38 GMT
#19
Yup can make it
Starcraft 2 - Beta
hyst.eric.al
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2332 Posts
January 29 2010 03:48 GMT
#20
I can make it, unless something catastrophic happens.
Leta , BeSt, Calm fan forever! 김정우, I am sorry I ever lost faith in you.
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-29 05:03:55
January 29 2010 04:02 GMT
#21
I can make it ^_^

I just hope one of the two tosses doesn't show up =[

Mind dying for me Ziph?

(Also, I updated efreet about an hour ago if you want to change the image in the OP)
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
Sha[DoW]
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada110 Posts
January 29 2010 04:10 GMT
#22
..... 0 for 4.... I've never even been a replacement T_T
Some people are like slinkies, completely useless, but they bring a smile to your face when you shove them down the stairs.
deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
January 29 2010 05:00 GMT
#23
ShaDoW bl but keep trying mate - there were 57 people interested this time and only a handful are selected it was tough for everyone.
Gaming videos for fun ~ http://www.youtube.com/user/WijLopenLos
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-29 05:11:41
January 29 2010 05:03 GMT
#24
For Auir! sound amazing hahaha. I don't really like the ones that only affect the first 2 minutes and stuff like that, like kill an initial probe and stuff like that. Need handicaps that affect the whole game.

EDIT: I'll have an obs version for Efreet tomorrow afternoon btw. Version 2.1 in the thread is probably going to be the last one, so feel free to practice on it if you like.

Takes 2 depots and a rax to wallin in the mains, and 1 depot 1 rax to wallin at the naturals as T.

As P, you can make a "perfect wallin" PvZ at the natural, with only 1 matrix space to go out and in. This can be widened later by destroying the power generators.
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deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
January 29 2010 05:29 GMT
#25
Added the pre-game hype interview from Leg :D

You seem to be playing more often recently - is there a reason for this increased activity? -deL

I hadn't played in a long time, and i came back to play in TSL. Then the Aus SOO event was on, and QLD (Queensland, the state Peter lives in here -deL) weren't doing so well, so i had to help out my fellow Queenslanders! Beyond that i don't intend to become active again, maybe just play a game here and there for fun. -Leg

Do you expect it to continue or are you still playing just off the excitement of the TSL? -deL

Probably die off. Pending sc2. -Leg

How do you predict you will do in this event? How many wins will you get? -deL

I expect a perfect record up until they take my shuttles away from me. I have no idea, its the luck of the draw which disadvantage i get taken away early, and vs which race i then come up against.
Later matches will probably be very challenging. -Leg

Are there any handicaps that stand out for you as being very difficult or interesting? -deL

Each individually seems fine, theres always other builds that you can do to overcome the disadvantage. But with the compounding of handicaps, thats when it becomes tough. For example, no zealots and no carriers isn't so bad. But no zealots and double upgrade buildings (or no goon range)? Now that becomes tough. -Leg

Are there any D to C players you are really hoping sign up so that you can play against them? Who and why? -deL

Not really. Maybe those who didn't play in TSL or other events, as it might get them more involved in the sc community. I'm happy playing anyone, regardless of skill. -Leg

Who would you really like to see participate in TL-Arena after you? -deL

Lim Yo Hwan. -Leg
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deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
January 29 2010 05:39 GMT
#26
If any of the competitors want short 3-4 question interviews of themselves to be added to the main post pm me, we can do it over TL's mIRC channel.
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Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
January 29 2010 05:52 GMT
#27
yay interview!

thanks
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Ziph
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Netherlands970 Posts
January 29 2010 06:01 GMT
#28
Grobyc why the fuck haven't i seen you on iccup for 5weeks.
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Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
January 29 2010 06:05 GMT
#29
what?!?!

I asked you yesterday if you wanted to play test games on efreet with me LOL
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Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
January 29 2010 06:05 GMT
#30
but your wrists were too sore from jacking it too much or something iirc
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Australia5540 Posts
January 29 2010 06:12 GMT
#31
Tension in the mG. house mounts o_o
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Netherlands970 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-29 06:23:11
January 29 2010 06:18 GMT
#32
Boxer on TL-Arena would indeed be awesome.
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Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-29 06:25:31
January 29 2010 06:24 GMT
#33
double post
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Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
January 29 2010 06:25 GMT
#34
On January 29 2010 15:18 Ziph wrote:
oh I remember now, wasn't my wrist but my index finger man. Shit hurt like crazy.

I have most of this weekend off.

BO9 all matchups dual FPview stream grudge match gogo
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Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
January 29 2010 07:06 GMT
#35
I can make it, and voted for myself cause noone else will
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deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-29 07:47:02
January 29 2010 07:46 GMT
#36
Two more interviews added - short ones for the competitors/fodder:

+ Show Spoiler [Sotanath] +
[AU][T] Sotanath will be the first player to face Legionnaire in this event.

Some people might recognise your name from being one of the players to face NaDa in Sydney - how did you get so lucky? Will this experience help you? -deL

Turning up does wonders for your chances; all the capable Sydney players had holiday/work commitments so I got a lucky break. The experience was great but only furthers the intimidation factor of playing an ex-progamer like Leg. -Sotanath

How confident are you on Tau Cross, and do you have any special builds planned or any handicaps that you would especially find useful? -deL

I’m going to have to go into the archives and find a better/cheesier way to play this map because my past record against D+/C- tosses has been pretty miserable. I’m really hoping for “For Aiur” as that could be both crippling and humorous. -Sotanath

You're playing arguably the gretest and most well-known Australian player - are you a bit star struck or is he just another opponent? -deL

I’m really looking forward to it but will treat him like any other protoss and hope for the best. -Sotanath

How many beers will you buy Del when he gets back to Sydney after you got into this event? -deL

Well that makes it the 2nd event in which I’ve got to play a progamer all thanks to Del so I’ll be sure to shout him a middy. -Sotanath

+ Show Spoiler [Grobyc] +
[CA][P] Grobyc is a Protoss reserve player and maker of the map Efreet

Your map is leading in the polls - can you give the public more reason to keep supporting it for use in the event? -deL

I'm glad to see that ^^. The poll was up before I updated it and made some changes to increase balance and playability, so I'm hoping it will become even more popular now. Please keep voting! -Grobyc

What kind of play or strategies did you expect to be utilised when you designed the map? Can you give players on it any tips? -deL

Initially, when I designed it I had intended on a focus around standard play, but with opportunities to take risks and maintain an economic lead over your opponent. This can be noticed by destructible buildings and by having multiple choices for a third expansion for example. Since Leg will have handicaps, I can see him trying to take risks here to keep a lead, so keep that in mind. -Grobyc

If you get the chance to play, do you have any special tactics planned and what handicap would you want? -deL

Cheesing has never been my thing, so I plan on playing rather straight up regardless, but I will definitely try to capitalize on his handicaps. I think it would be fun to see how he improvises with No Overlay, Power Outage, and/or for Auir!. -Grobyc
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Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
January 29 2010 07:48 GMT
#37
Why are the maps for every match predetermined this time?
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deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
January 29 2010 07:49 GMT
#38
On January 29 2010 16:48 Alur wrote:
Why are the maps for every match predetermined this time?

I am not Pholon, I am doing things a little differently - with his leave of course - and I thought knowing the maps in advance not only lessens the burden in organising the event but also give the chance for both players to come up with devious/crafty/creative plays.
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Denmark3900 Posts
January 29 2010 08:22 GMT
#39
On January 29 2010 16:49 iCCup.deL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2010 16:48 Alur wrote:
Why are the maps for every match predetermined this time?

I am not Pholon, I am doing things a little differently - with his leave of course - and I thought knowing the maps in advance not only lessens the burden in organising the event but also give the chance for both players to come up with devious/crafty/creative plays.

Not that I have a problem with it, but I don't see Leg preparing crafty builds for each map, this is only going to benefit the challengers.
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deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
January 29 2010 08:38 GMT
#40
On January 29 2010 17:22 Alur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2010 16:49 iCCup.deL wrote:
On January 29 2010 16:48 Alur wrote:
Why are the maps for every match predetermined this time?

I am not Pholon, I am doing things a little differently - with his leave of course - and I thought knowing the maps in advance not only lessens the burden in organising the event but also give the chance for both players to come up with devious/crafty/creative plays.

Not that I have a problem with it, but I don't see Leg preparing crafty builds for each map, this is only going to benefit the challengers.

Isn't that a good thing? In fact, isn't it the whole point of handicaps?

Also I am pretty sure known what MU is on the map will help him think of something fun to do with the handicap once he knows it.
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pyrogenetix
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
China5094 Posts
January 29 2010 08:42 GMT
#41
oh cool you're using my handicap idea =D
Yea that looks just like Kang Min... amazing game sense... and uses mind games well, but has the micro of a washed up progamer.
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Profile Joined January 2010
Netherlands48 Posts
January 29 2010 09:05 GMT
#42
oh man. TOO bad you didnt pick me . i would have given leg a though fight. Better luck for me next time...
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Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada3642 Posts
January 29 2010 10:46 GMT
#43
I got this ... hehehe I just wish I was going earlier instead of later so I could play him with less handicaps
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Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Netherlands6142 Posts
January 29 2010 11:17 GMT
#44
On January 29 2010 18:05 NrT.NevelHAZE wrote:
oh man. TOO bad you didnt pick me . i would have given leg a though fight. Better luck for me next time...


be sure to try again next time =)
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deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
January 29 2010 11:22 GMT
#45
Guys the way the random Handicap selection will work:

You will have a picture streamed with the handicaps labelled 1-16.

Legionnaire will be asked to pick a number between 1 and 16 and that will determine the handicap.

If 'TL submission' is picked, the #1 handicap as determined by the poll will apply, if it is selected again the #2 ranking HC in the poll will apply, etc.
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deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
January 29 2010 11:22 GMT
#46
On January 29 2010 20:17 Pholon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2010 18:05 NrT.NevelHAZE wrote:
oh man. TOO bad you didnt pick me . i would have given leg a though fight. Better luck for me next time...


be sure to try again next time =)

Maybe he should submit with FOUR accounts this time?
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stroggos
Profile Joined February 2009
New Zealand1543 Posts
January 29 2010 11:32 GMT
#47
i feel lucky, i had about the same chance being picked for this as KK beating AA preflop.

oops wrong website.
hi
deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
January 29 2010 12:11 GMT
#48
I had a few short questions for Pholon as it seemed like a prime opportunity while he is not directly orchestrating stuff Also turns out asking these questions is a lot of fun :o

+ Show Spoiler [Pholon] +
Pholon is the mastermind behind the TL Arena idea, and has played a large part in all TL Arena events to date.

This is the 5th (hopefully) successful TeamLiquid Arena that you are going to be a part of - what were your expectations for TL Arena and how have they been fulfilled? -deL

When Leperkahn (shoutout!) and I first started out we were kind of tentative about approaching one of these top-notch players and not fucking up. I owe massive thanks to Shauni for putting up with us, I owe him a lot. Although some things went wrong, we got a huge amount of positive feedback. From there on I just saw what else I could do – I don’t have many expectations. -Pholon

What are the future plans for TL Arena - continuation of the series or will you move on to other ideas? Any sneak peeks for us? -deL

After that first one it was pretty easy sailing and we actually have people lining up now. It's amazing how many great players are participating. So as far as future plans go I just want to keep improving and going. I do have some ambitious ideas, but we’ll see. -Pholon

What do you know about Legionnaire? How will he fare in comparison to the previous players? -deL

I’m still letting the fact that Leg is gonna be on sink in. His era was before my time (unfortunately) but I am aware of what he did and I’m really really excited he’ll be playing. As for how he’ll do I feel some handicaps are a bit timid so he should get pretty far. I hope he’ll get taken down in game 6 or 7 though :D -Pholon
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Legionnaire
Profile Joined January 2003
Australia4514 Posts
January 29 2010 13:57 GMT
#49
I'm going to watch the stream and pick the easy handicaps!... oh wait... maybe i shouldn't say this else you'll foil my devious plan

I bet i'll pick the toughest handicap first

Should be fun! gogogo
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Legionnaire
Profile Joined January 2003
Australia4514 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-29 14:26:45
January 29 2010 14:16 GMT
#50
My thoughts on the handicaps.

Unit and Building Restrictions
* No Zealots - Legionnaire cannot use this basic Protoss unit
Easy enough to get around, early game might be tough, there won't be any rushes by me but lots from them. This combined with others becomes very very tough.
* No Observers - Vital for Protoss' mobile detection capabilities
Not so bad in some matchups, but very easy to abuse this!
* Gateway cap - A maximum of five gateways may be on the map at one time
This won't slow me down at all... have you not seen my macro lately?
* Gas cap - Our hero is restricted to only one assimilator during the match
Not too bad, there are lots of builds that you can do otherwise, but the longer the game goes on the harder it will become, especially if the opposition play it smart. No gas and no zeals... ouch...
* No Shuttles - A favourite unit of Leg, how will his reaver micro be without his characteristic shuttle?
I hate you all. I love shuttles. They are the reason i wake up every morning with a smile on my face.
* No Arbiters - Leg has never been known for his arbiter use, preferring carriers, but will he regret not using them when he had the chance?
This isn't too worrysome, if the game lasts long enough to get to arbs, theni should be fine anyway.


Upgrade Restrictions
* No Zealot Legs - Leg's zealots will tend more to amble about and admire the scenery
Zealot speed is important, it will be very hard to flank, or do anysort of decent timing attacks.
* No Goon Range - This is a unique handicap as it will hurt both early and late game
I remember seeing terato forget goon range, and was dominating vs Xellos? And he slowly slowly lost as the terran ran over him. It is so important for mine hunting and in pvp. pvz won't be too bad.
* No Psi Storm - Now those shuttles will only have room for reavers
Makes my PvZ very tough. As well as good harass. There are ways around it, depending on other handicaps.
* No Interceptor Upgrade - Now they are only half a free win
Not so bad, just don't go carriers. No interceptors and no gas would be a funny combo. It almost ends up being no handicap, as you will just do mass land builds.

Miscellaneous Handicaps
* Give Vision - Legionnaire will surrender vision to his opponent with this handicap
Tough vs C and higher ranked players, others shouldn't matter too much, no sneaky hidden exps though
* No Rally Points - No rally points may be set outside the player's base
Not a disadvantage at all, just have to plan your gate locations well.
* Double Tech - Any tech building will have to be built twice before it can be utilised
Tough, it rules out lots of rushes of any sort. If you have this and no zeals... i'm in big big trouble.

user submitted
The hero must cover up their minimap with a post-it note or similar.
Not too bad, mildly annoying, i'd be happy with this. The question is... can you trust me? mwuahahahaha
The hero starts the game with 3 probes after killing the fourth as the game starts.
If they do a quick rush i'm in trouble. If i have this and no zeals and they rush. I die. If its a big map its safer, i think it slows you down by about 200 minerals early game.
No ground weapons, ground armour or plasma shield upgrades.
Tough vs an upgrading T. Tough vs a zerg. Very tough vs a zerg if i have no storm.
Cover up the overlay on the screen that shows minerals, vespene gas and supply count.
Not too bad, mildly annoying, i'd be happy with this. Its not like i spend my minerals anymore anyway.
As soon as a pylon finishes warping, get a probe to start attacking it.
Uhhhh? If i get this early i will lose after the third game. I won't be able to get to any late game matches whatsoever. I'll have limited minerals, and limited units as i will either hit supply cap or have spent it all on rebuilding pylons. Need 20 pylons for max supply. Thats 20 non mining probes, with 200 supply disappearing every few minutes. I'll have to mass expand to abuse nexus supply. Probably the hardest single handicap.
Everytime a probe warps in a building, dreams of the homeland force it to charge the enemy - sacrificing itself.
Hurts me mildly, but not significantly. I don't waste time doing this, as its just click, shift click and forget about it. Its also the coolest sounding one by far. Hmmm i can't mass cannon hidden exps anymore!
High Templar are the only templar allowed to be made, and they may not be warped into archons.
Imagine this with no storm! That would be so cruel. Its okay. But helps them plan (ie they know no dt's are coming , and if no shuttles, then they don't need turrets or island, or base defense etc)
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Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
January 29 2010 23:39 GMT
#51
Update:

(2)Efreet 2.2

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Changes:
- Increase size of the mains.
- Slightly increased the size of the choke point at the 3rd gas.

For PvT I would recommend killing the temples before the Terran moves out to take his 3rd gas, so you will have more room to flank. To be honest, I think if you do this you have more than enough room for a successful attack.

Efreet 2.2 Melee Download

Efreet 2.2 OBs Download

This will be the final version, so I made the OBs version for it as well.
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deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-30 02:51:49
January 30 2010 00:44 GMT
#52
What about the toughest combo of handicaps? Waht does everyone think? I reckon this would be really hard:

Game 1: Power Outage
Game 2: Kill Initial Probe, Power Outage
Game 3: Double Tech, Kill Initial Probe, Power Outage
Game 4: No Zealots, Double Tech, Kill Initial Probe, Power Outage
Game 5: Gas Cap, No Zealots, Double Tech, Kill Initial Probe, Power Outage
Game 6: No Shuttles, Gas Cap, No Zealots, Double Tech, Kill Initial Probe, Power Outage
Game 7: No Storm, No Shuttles, Gas Cap, No Zealots, Double Tech, Kill Initial Probe, Power Outage
Game 8: No Goon Range, No Storm, No Shuttles, Gas Cap, No Zealots, Double Tech, Kill Initial Probe, Power Outage

Also threw in 3 more short interviews

+ Show Spoiler [Stroggos] +
[NZ][Z] stroggos may face Leg on Outsider

You're the only New Zealand player to sign up despite the convenient time and fellow Oceanic player - what is the state of SC in NZ at the moment? -deL

Well, i havn't actually been in the starcraft community for as long as most of the other players. So it would be hard for me to compare the nz starcraft community to what it used to be like. We have a strong but small community, as New Zealand has a starcraft website: starcraft.co.nz. And in my city Christchurch we have starcraft RL meetups, where we watch dissapointing msl finals and cheese each other on bgh. -stroggos

Are you a Legionnaire fan for the Oceania area he represents or an anti-fan because he is Australian? -deL

Legionnaire ftw. Even though hes an Australian, and Australians are dirty criminals like the Terrans, legionnaire is representing something that is unique, not many progamers come out of a southern hemisphere country. Also he can lift the weights. -stroggos

If you play, do you have any ideas on how you will approach your game? Any handicap that you would like to play against? -deL

I'm pretty much praying for no zealots or give vision. protoss with no zealots is just fail against zerg, unless of course he does something gay like mass DT's or mass cannons on outsider then push out. i have some build orders prepared for that. Give vision is great as well, i could take shortcuts on my build orders, know when to do a ling runby..stuff like that. -stroggos

Realistically, how far do you think the 'hero' will get in terms of games won? -deL

I think he will win most of his games, I actually don't think the handicaps will matter too much when he can still outmicro everyone. Everyone who has a game against him really needs to take advantage of the handicap to beat him. and leg needs to prepare for how someone could take advantage of his penalty. -stroggos

+ Show Spoiler [Ziph] +

It seemed from your application that you are a Leg fan - can you elaborate? -deL

No. Barely know the dude as i'm a fairly new player in the scene. Started playing after the Razer-TSL so I don't know that much about players before that time. Though hes a Protoss player the only race I have respect for. Terrans and Zergs are just to fucking imbalanced ^^. -Ziph

If you get the chance to play, do you have any builds or strategies planned out? What handicap would you most like to be up against? -deL

If i get the chance to play? Didn't I get picked already. Anyway I hope that by the time I have to play he has -no Obs- which i think is the hardest handicap for PvP. What the fuck are you gonna do against DT's without observers. and if I survive any kind of gay cheese I'm pretty sure I could win. -Ziph

What can viewers expect from your game - will you try to put on a show, try to be competitive, or just try to stay alive? -deL

Well i'm a super standard player kinda like Idra, this doesn't mean i won't cheese or anything though. It all depends on what handicaps he gets. Of course i'm going to to be competitive and try to win. I don't really know how good he really is, never seen him play but think it would be a fairly decent game atleast. -Ziph

+ Show Spoiler [LinXe] +
[GB][Z] LinXe is the highest ranked competitor to be taking on Leg

As the highest ranked player for the 'fodder' you are under some pressure to finish it - do you think Leg will go all the way if you lose? -deL

Looking at the competitors, Legionnaire has got to go against quite a difficult group of people with a lot of C- players to attempt to beat. If he were to beat me he would then face the 2 lowest ranked opponents so I suspect he might come out 8-0 in that scenario. That said I fully intend to swarm my way to victory ^^ -LinXe

Leg will have 6 handicaps by the time he reaches you - what would be your ideal set of handicaps and do you have any particular strategies planned? -deL

Power Outage, For Auir, No Zealots, No Goon Range, Give Vision, Double Tech.

This would be, at a brief glance, 6 handicaps that I think would be insurmountable. Having any two of those as handicaps would be great (for me!)
I don’t have any strategies prepared as I suspect it would be better to improve it based on the handicaps. I have however been constantly practicing my 5pool for the last 3 years on the offchance I would face Legionnaire in a SC Community event so that’s a consideration. -LinXe


If the infamous Europe-Australia latency is present who do you think it will favour? How do you expect to perform with some lag? -deL

Never actually heard that Euro-Australia was renowned for lag, hopefully there will be none as I personally find lag extremely frustrating, but sometimes it’s unavoidable. I don’t think lag would favor anyone, and lag or no lag I will be trying my hardest to win! -LinXe

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deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
January 30 2010 07:13 GMT
#53
The map pack:

http://senduit.com/1779e3
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Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Netherlands970 Posts
January 30 2010 21:48 GMT
#54
Ok gonna sleep now and hopefully wake up on time :D
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Canada6683 Posts
January 31 2010 00:36 GMT
#55
6.5 hours to go :O
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Pholon
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Netherlands6142 Posts
January 31 2010 00:44 GMT
#56
On January 31 2010 06:48 Ziph wrote:
Ok gonna sleep now and hopefully wake up on time :D


Same, gimme a wake-up call when you do mkay? >.>

On January 31 2010 09:36 infinity21 wrote:
6.5 hours to go :O


Sick, you got the date right this time ;D
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Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
January 31 2010 02:07 GMT
#57
On January 31 2010 06:48 Ziph wrote:
Ok gonna sleep now and hopefully wake up on time :D

I hope you don't wake up
+ Show Spoiler +
tonight.
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hyst.eric.al
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2332 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-31 03:36:36
January 31 2010 03:35 GMT
#58
grobyc its time for you tell me where you hid the 5 pieces of exodia on efreet + Show Spoiler +
since im the only D noob fodder he's playing
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Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
January 31 2010 04:08 GMT
#59
lol you guys

ziph your interview is lol
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Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
January 31 2010 04:38 GMT
#60
On January 31 2010 12:35 hyst.eric.al wrote:
grobyc its time for you tell me where you hid the 5 pieces of exodia on efreet + Show Spoiler +
since im the only D noob fodder he's playing

sorry bro, you're gonna have to hope for power outage.

+ Show Spoiler +
and I don't mean the handicap.
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Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
January 31 2010 06:22 GMT
#61
wow, i accidentally fell asleep and woke up just now O_o
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Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
January 31 2010 06:31 GMT
#62
Lol this is going to coincide with Winner's League for sure for sure. I probably can't play my 2nd game >.<
It is impossible to be a citizen if you don't make an effort to understand the most basic activities of your government. It is very difficult to thrive in an increasingly competitive world if you're a nation of doods.
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
January 31 2010 06:40 GMT
#63
I think you'll be fine Myst. The games don't start until like 16:15 KST or so probably, because of intro and stuff like that. If the first game takes 10-15 minutes then you have another 50 mins or so from now, and
+ Show Spoiler [MBC vs WeMade] +
I think MBC should be able to clean up WeMade by then
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
January 31 2010 06:41 GMT
#64
I'll be happy with 10-15 minutes but don't count on it
Yhamm is the god of predictions
Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
January 31 2010 06:43 GMT
#65
On January 31 2010 15:40 Grobyc wrote:
I think you'll be fine Myst. The games don't start until like 16:15 KST or so probably, because of intro and stuff like that. If the first game takes 10-15 minutes then you have another 50 mins or so from now, and
+ Show Spoiler [MBC vs WeMade] +
I think MBC should be able to clean up WeMade by then

You never know what could happen in a game between fail players...
It is impossible to be a citizen if you don't make an effort to understand the most basic activities of your government. It is very difficult to thrive in an increasingly competitive world if you're a nation of doods.
Ziph
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Netherlands970 Posts
January 31 2010 06:54 GMT
#66
Jesus only woke up now close shit man, also who cares about MBC vs Wemade noob teams.
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deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
January 31 2010 07:06 GMT
#67
We will bring Leg on skype after game 3 - we're pretty much set here.
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johnnyspazz
Profile Joined April 2009
Taiwan1470 Posts
January 31 2010 07:40 GMT
#68
did you guys stop doing team melee as a handicap?
i want to play team melee with my friend next time :p
"The big difference between sex for money and sex for free is that sex for money usually costs a lot less." -Brendan Behan
TryThis
Profile Joined February 2007
Canada1522 Posts
January 31 2010 08:09 GMT
#69
go infiinty!
doing pretty great
Dwell
Kiante
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7069 Posts
January 31 2010 08:09 GMT
#70
any chance of people who are capped being able to get in and obs the games because they cant get enough bandwidth to watch the stream?

: (
Writer
chogoling
Profile Joined April 2009
Australia173 Posts
January 31 2010 08:18 GMT
#71
Oh man I'd love that too
[TA] Terror Australis
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
January 31 2010 08:20 GMT
#72
wow that was a fun game haha
johnnyspazz
Profile Joined April 2009
Taiwan1470 Posts
January 31 2010 08:20 GMT
#73
On January 31 2010 17:09 Kiante wrote:
any chance of people who are capped being able to get in and obs the games because they cant get enough bandwidth to watch the stream?

: (

http://www.teamliquid.net/video/userstream.php?user=Pholon

should be no cap on teh stream
"The big difference between sex for money and sex for free is that sex for money usually costs a lot less." -Brendan Behan
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
January 31 2010 08:21 GMT
#74
hahah infinity, sooo close
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
kyzers0ze
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Singapore1073 Posts
January 31 2010 08:23 GMT
#75
infinity's game was really entertaining
8==========))
Kiante
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7069 Posts
January 31 2010 08:25 GMT
#76
On January 31 2010 17:20 johnnyspazz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2010 17:09 Kiante wrote:
any chance of people who are capped being able to get in and obs the games because they cant get enough bandwidth to watch the stream?

: (

http://www.teamliquid.net/video/userstream.php?user=Pholon

should be no cap on teh stream


My internet is capped. Dont have enough bandwidth to watch a stream
Writer
Kiante
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7069 Posts
January 31 2010 08:36 GMT
#77
can someone update on the current status? ie: results of games, handicaps chosen etc?
Writer
kyzers0ze
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Singapore1073 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-31 08:48:19
January 31 2010 08:43 GMT
#78
leg won 4 games so far. current hadicaps now are no gas, no zealot legs, give vision and 5gate cap and probe charges enemy
8==========))
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
January 31 2010 08:48 GMT
#79
next one is sac probe every time you make a building
© Current year.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
January 31 2010 08:48 GMT
#80
For the people with low bandwidth, could the iccup streamer be used for these games? (It streams the replay in real time to people with the iccup watcher on).
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
January 31 2010 08:50 GMT
#81
I'm really digging this cast - it's awesome to see how Leg is dictating the course of these games even with all these disadvantages.
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Ziph
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Netherlands970 Posts
January 31 2010 08:50 GMT
#82
O god played so bad lol, how did i let a reaver get 5000kills while he even gave me vision. Was choking so hard ;p.
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writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
January 31 2010 08:51 GMT
#83
lmao that pvp was hilarious

Leg just drops a reaver and it gets like 10 probe kills each time
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
johnnyspazz
Profile Joined April 2009
Taiwan1470 Posts
January 31 2010 08:52 GMT
#84
On January 31 2010 17:25 Kiante wrote:

My internet is capped. Dont have enough bandwidth to watch a stream


would it help if someone streamed it at a lower bandwidth?
sorry i read over the word "bandwidth"
"The big difference between sex for money and sex for free is that sex for money usually costs a lot less." -Brendan Behan
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
January 31 2010 08:54 GMT
#85
lool "i know NZ is a bit behind but do you know how to give vision"
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
6985 Posts
January 31 2010 09:01 GMT
#86
Leg would've killed stroggos if stroggos had no vision :/

and it would've been so epic
stroggos
Profile Joined February 2009
New Zealand1543 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-31 09:04:53
January 31 2010 09:04 GMT
#87
pfft, i didnt even get to cheese him or bm him enough. NZ>AUS
hi
Kiante
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7069 Posts
January 31 2010 09:06 GMT
#88
64kbs isn't good enough to stream music, let alone video lol. Any chance the vods or replays are gonna be upped?
Writer
deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
January 31 2010 09:06 GMT
#89
On January 31 2010 17:50 p4NDemik wrote:
I'm really digging this cast - it's awesome to see how Leg is dictating the course of these games even with all these disadvantages.

Yah I was ruining it trying to fill in from Husky a bit :O
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Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
January 31 2010 09:22 GMT
#90
On January 31 2010 17:51 writer22816 wrote:
lmao that pvp was hilarious

Leg just drops a reaver and it gets like 20 probe kills each time

Little better now :D
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
Ftrunkz
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Australia2474 Posts
January 31 2010 09:38 GMT
#91
any chance of an update with results and the disadvantages leg played with?
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deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
January 31 2010 09:55 GMT
#92
On January 31 2010 18:38 Ftrunkz wrote:
any chance of an update with results and the disadvantages leg played with?

I will make a new thread
Gaming videos for fun ~ http://www.youtube.com/user/WijLopenLos
hyst.eric.al
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2332 Posts
January 31 2010 10:05 GMT
#93
sigh this was the biggest waste of fucking time ever; staying up until 5am for this shit and not getting to play because of lat.

since im still in hs, parents told me if I stay up this late for TL Arena I can't play SC for the week especially given its midterms.

man, fuck. what an extremely and thoroughly disappointing night.
Leta , BeSt, Calm fan forever! 김정우, I am sorry I ever lost faith in you.
Suc
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia1569 Posts
January 31 2010 10:08 GMT
#94
Legionnaire is so awesome
Legionnaire
Profile Joined January 2003
Australia4514 Posts
January 31 2010 10:10 GMT
#95
On January 31 2010 19:05 hyst.eric.al wrote:
sigh this was the biggest waste of fucking time ever; staying up until 5am for this shit and not getting to play because of lat.

since im still in hs, parents told me if I stay up this late for TL Arena I can't play SC for the week especially given its midterms.

man, fuck. what an extremely and thoroughly disappointing night.


PM me, we can set up a game sometime.
My hope is one day stupid people will feel the same pain when they talk, as the pain the rest of us feel when we hear them. Twitter: @Legionnaire_au
deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
January 31 2010 10:15 GMT
#96
Big thanks to Pholon for giving birth to the event and trusting me to organise one :D

Big thanks to our casters Husky and Raelcun for streaming and casting on short notice.

An apology is in order because Husky was having some mic lag/skype troubles and you guys had to put up with me talking more I hope I wasn't too annoying.

Finally big thanks for Legionnaire for agreeing to do the event I thought it was a lot of fun and very entertaining!

Cheers.

VODs and reps up soon
Gaming videos for fun ~ http://www.youtube.com/user/WijLopenLos
deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
January 31 2010 10:22 GMT
#97
On January 31 2010 19:05 hyst.eric.al wrote:
sigh this was the biggest waste of fucking time ever; staying up until 5am for this shit and not getting to play because of lat.

since im still in hs, parents told me if I stay up this late for TL Arena I can't play SC for the week especially given its midterms.

man, fuck. what an extremely and thoroughly disappointing night.

Leg had no time anyhow, so we couldn't try to fix your lat because he had to go ASAP. We didn't just ditch you cos of lat once, we gave LinXe like 4-5 chances.
Gaming videos for fun ~ http://www.youtube.com/user/WijLopenLos
Husky
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3362 Posts
January 31 2010 10:26 GMT
#98
Thanks for having me!

For some reason my mic wasn't working when Leg was in the skype, coupled with 4 people total talking, not being able to spoil anything, and not wanting to distract Leg TOO much while he's playing made it hard to squeeze in everything I wanted to say.

That aside, I hope you guys really enjoyed it. I had a blast .
Commentaries: youtube.com/HuskyStarcraft
LoStYouRSkiLLS
Profile Joined February 2008
Australia223 Posts
January 31 2010 10:52 GMT
#99
On January 31 2010 19:05 hyst.eric.al wrote:
sigh this was the biggest waste of fucking time ever; staying up until 5am for this shit and not getting to play because of lat.

since im still in hs, parents told me if I stay up this late for TL Arena I can't play SC for the week especially given its midterms.

man, fuck. what an extremely and thoroughly disappointing night.


Probably for the best. Go study.
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infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
January 31 2010 11:10 GMT
#100
This was awesome. But now I want to play more sc which will be bad for school
Official Entusman #21
Sosha
Profile Joined August 2004
United States749 Posts
January 31 2010 11:18 GMT
#101
i wonder what the "for Aiur" handicap entails? =)
were some pretty gg's though and very nice job by Legion to handle/deal w/ all the handicaps placed on him, like the PvT (team melee game, dunno if it was more than 1 user or just an obs situation) but he was only able to have 1 gas, no Leg speed, share vision with opponent and was still able to win =)
thats skillz!

Nice idea.
Looking forward to the next challenger to step into the arena!

gL
Tranquility through fluid Motion. GlowBabyGlow.
Pholon
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Netherlands6142 Posts
January 31 2010 11:28 GMT
#102
Ok I am finally awake now.

Pretty well run deL, glad to see you not running my baby into the ground =D

Excellent games too, very fun to watch. I wonder what Australia will do now, getting their hero taken out by a Kiwi...
Moderator@TLPholon // "I need a third hand to facepalm right now"
hyst.eric.al
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2332 Posts
January 31 2010 19:10 GMT
#103
On January 31 2010 19:52 LoStYouRSkiLLS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2010 19:05 hyst.eric.al wrote:
sigh this was the biggest waste of fucking time ever; staying up until 5am for this shit and not getting to play because of lat.

since im still in hs, parents told me if I stay up this late for TL Arena I can't play SC for the week especially given its midterms.

man, fuck. what an extremely and thoroughly disappointing night.


Probably for the best. Go study.
haha senior year, already in college, midterms dont mean shit.

pretty much was nerdraging last night, was still great staying up and watching leg :D and some incredible wins with ridiculous handicaps

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Leta , BeSt, Calm fan forever! 김정우, I am sorry I ever lost faith in you.
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