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[MSL] Nate MSL Grand Finals - Flash vs Jaedong - Page 151

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Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7244 Posts
January 23 2010 10:50 GMT
#3001
what the fuck was that ladyboy putting on makeup doing on the screen
How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
mdb
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Bulgaria4059 Posts
January 23 2010 10:51 GMT
#3002
Another very sad thing is that this game could have been one of the best ever, with this awesome comeback from JD. At one moment he had only 2 bases and a big army vs countless mms of Flash.
It was so sick how he managed to come back and take a huge lead, but... all this shit happened
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
January 23 2010 10:51 GMT
#3003
There were fuckups, sure. I thought that that last game was a gg when it ended prematurely. I still feel like this is a really good series. I'm not thinking it's cheapened by this incident. If anything it's just funnier, but the games are pretty unhindered in my eyes.
SHr3DD3r
Profile Joined March 2009
Pakistan2137 Posts
January 23 2010 10:51 GMT
#3004
How come the next game hasn't started yet?
Hit them hard! Hit them low! - Forever a Bisu Fan!~!
knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-23 10:52:44
January 23 2010 10:51 GMT
#3005
I hate you Nate with all my heart. Really I feel like killing myself because of how crappy this is playing out. Power failure , long commercials, talking for a long time, long ass commercials, more talking? god please save this final somehow
edit: moooooooreeee commercials?
JellyJesus
Profile Joined June 2008
United States16 Posts
January 23 2010 10:51 GMT
#3006
On January 23 2010 19:49 IPS.Mardow. wrote:
Ok this is a good solution imo:

Jaedong gg's right away in game 4. Then they add another bo3 on that 2-2 score so its like a bo7 and everyone can be happy.


rofl

That's just the same as doing a rematch for game 3.
noojOh
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States755 Posts
January 23 2010 10:51 GMT
#3007
this is ridiculous
not only did that black out happen
the commentators are talking forever
wtf is going on today?
they're talking as much as they do after a proleague game ends and i'd forgive them for all the things that happened if the games just started again...
ftw
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10341 Posts
January 23 2010 10:51 GMT
#3008
Quick! Keep posting more FUUUU cartoons!

It'll make light of the fact that after the power failed nothing at all has happened for about an hour!
[21:07] <Shock710> whats wrong with her face [20:50] <dAPhREAk> i beat it the day after it came out | <BLinD-RawR> esports is a giant vagina
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
January 23 2010 10:52 GMT
#3009
This blackout puts JD in a MUCH WORSE POSITION than Flash.

If JD wins it's not a "legit" win and if he loses he's a scrub b/c he had a free win.

if Flash wins he's a legend of legends and if he loses the gets the sympathy of the world for being "cheated."

Kespa made the best decision considering the situation.
cz
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3249 Posts
January 23 2010 10:52 GMT
#3010
On January 23 2010 19:50 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2010 19:48 jalstar wrote:
There was no way Flash was winning that. He went 2 base allin and needed to shut down JDs economy with his last big push. He failed, his push gaining no ground and his vessel count being totally destroyed. With only 2 vessels against 5 gas defilers it would be impossible for Flash to push into 7. That left him on two mining bases (his main was empty) with one of those about to be mined out. He'd lost map control, his push had failed and JD had the entire Z tech tree and the gas to use it.
Not giving JD the win would have been unfair. Flash's build failed and there was no fallback option for him. JD's income was several times his and Flash had no new bases coming. It was done.


Flash had 3 bases and Jaedong had 4 gas.

Flash had 2 mining bases, one of which was about to be mined out. JD had his main gas, his nat gas, his 2nd nat gas and the double gas at 7. That's 5.


Flash had just taken an expo
Proposal
Profile Joined December 2007
United States1310 Posts
January 23 2010 10:52 GMT
#3011
another commercial is this a joke
Gregsen
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Germany667 Posts
January 23 2010 10:52 GMT
#3012
They will never stop talking..
Boycott Activision whenever, wherever you can.
wolf.dk
Profile Joined November 2008
Romania8 Posts
January 23 2010 10:52 GMT
#3013
MBC could avoid this with a cheap UPS.
z-zone
Perguvious
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1783 Posts
January 23 2010 10:52 GMT
#3014
MOOOOOOOOOOOOTHER-

MORE GODDAMN COMMERCIALS
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
January 23 2010 10:52 GMT
#3015
On January 23 2010 19:50 johnnyspazz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2010 19:47 Shikyo wrote:
On January 23 2010 19:45 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
On January 23 2010 19:36 Shikyo wrote:
On January 23 2010 19:32 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
I'm with the people saying Flash is never out of a game. Both the first 2 games had large swings where the other player appeared to have a lead... then lost it. Jaedong was ahead, but he wasn't so far ahead that Flash was somehow all ready on the gallows.

One min only in the middle of the map, main and nat mined out, and with such perfect macro before that he wouldn't have anything saved up, with Flash's entire MnM force crushed right before the power cut, with defilers defending the base. First, JD wouldn't have lost the bottom left. Second, a Z with 2 bases with a third coming > T with one min only IN THE MIDDLE OF THE MAP how do you defend that?


Defend it the way you normally defend that type of thing. Don't mistake my post as those crazy enough to suggest Flash was ahead. He wasn't and Jaedong most definitely was in much better position. However, Flash still had some science vessles (unless more were scourged off screen), some reinforcements coming (albeit not enough to actually take 7), and for Jaedong to win he was still going to have to use those defilers and push into flash. Flash's attack might've been pushed back further away from JD's base, but it wasn't knocking on flash's natural.

And, others have stated... It's Flash. That's not fanboyism or a delusion; just a fact.

How do you normally defend against fully upgraded ultraling with defilers?

In fact, normally you don't. That's the point where Terran generally starts losing to the Zerg. However, 1 min only in the middle of the map vs 4 base Z with potential of 5 gas?

Puhleaze

rofl are you retarded?
flash vs calm game 3

Off..2 depleted geysers and 1 mineral base and factory? Good luck with that.
Jaedong
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
January 23 2010 10:52 GMT
#3016
In my opinion they should have continued the games on Fighting Spirit with a score 1-1 and if the result reached 2-2, then replay Odd Eye.
o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
January 23 2010 10:52 GMT
#3017
both players looked so upset my fucking godddddddddddd.

whoever is defending any of the organizations involved in this please shut the hell up. everything that had to do with what's happened has been completely stupid. this is the sort of shit where you get torn to pieces if it happens at some ten-person event for your fucking frat. no way should this have happened on this scale and because they didn't have a ups lololol. and cut to commercials right after? take this long to resolve the situation? that just smacks of incompetence. as for the kespa decision it was probably difficult but the fact is they don't ever seem to talk about any real rules or standards for making these decisions and it just makes them look like ridiculous fuckers.

in summary please stop trying to defend these assholes because they obviously have no idea what the fuck they're doing, they're like baby mice or something running into fucking walls.
ProoM
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Lithuania1741 Posts
January 23 2010 10:52 GMT
#3018
Flash was mining of 1 base, and he soon wouldnt mine gas at all, jaedong was mining out of 5 bases and 4 gases, and he was defending his expansion really well, tearing up almost all Flash's units. Yes, Jaedong was a favourite to win that game, but was the advantage he had enough to call him the winner? I think yes, Kespa thinks the same, KT Rolster disagrees, how will it turn up, we will see.
IMBA - International Mountain Bicycling Association.
onewingedmoogle
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada434 Posts
January 23 2010 10:52 GMT
#3019
if there was power outage there wouldnt be a replay to look at, how could they possibly have a made a proper well thought out decision?
4Servy
Profile Joined August 2008
Netherlands1542 Posts
January 23 2010 10:52 GMT
#3020
flash needed 1 dropship or jsut a handfull of mnm to shut down jds base on the right cause it had no defenses what so ever and low drone count.

JD was ahead thats for sure but there were tons of options for flash to still take it, the 4th gas wasnt even up yet extracters just morphed.

If you think yourself on your icc games were you get a disadvantage like that im sure that you would be able to win quite alot of them regardless.
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