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[MSL] Nate MSL Grand Finals - Flash vs Jaedong - Page 152

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Jonvvv
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Norway1530 Posts
January 23 2010 10:52 GMT
#3021
christ, i hate korean commercials so fucking much
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meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
January 23 2010 10:52 GMT
#3022
They've played for like 20 minutes and the commercials filled the rest of the time
cmonnnnnnnnnn
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
January 23 2010 10:52 GMT
#3023
So what is happening now? When will they resume play?
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
Creationism
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
China505 Posts
January 23 2010 10:52 GMT
#3024
This is terrible. This has to be one of the biggest fails ever. The games were SO GOOD!!! Almost the epitomy of TvZ in these finals. And now all the build-up and stockpile is wasted. Absolutely wasted.

oh, and those of you who are saying cut the MBC hate? Have you had a JOB? Have you been in a PROFESSIONAL environment? This is what these fucks do for a living. And this is one of the most important events for this "living" they make. I do hope whoever ran this entire thing gets canned like a bitch and they go through some major management changes.
The hoi polloi is the plague upon the world.
ilbh
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil1606 Posts
January 23 2010 10:52 GMT
#3025
oh man its so unfair to say that if JD wins its not considered a real victory...
thats beyond fanboysm
Part of the inhumanity of the computer is that, once it is competently programmed and working smoothly, it is completely honest.
KristianJS
Profile Joined October 2009
2107 Posts
January 23 2010 10:52 GMT
#3026
Something's going on in the background. There's a shitstorm behind the stage about that decision, mark my works. That's why they're cutting to commercials constantly.
You need to be 100% behind someone before you can stab them in the back
cz
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3249 Posts
January 23 2010 10:53 GMT
#3027
On January 23 2010 19:51 thopol wrote:
There were fuckups, sure. I thought that that last game was a gg when it ended prematurely. I still feel like this is a really good series. I'm not thinking it's cheapened by this incident. If anything it's just funnier, but the games are pretty unhindered in my eyes.


Everyone knows you are a giant Jaedong fanboy and you think everything is absolutely peachy. I'm surprised you didn't just petition MBC to cancel the entire thing and retroactively change the score to 3-0 Jaedong.
3nickma
Profile Joined November 2007
Denmark1510 Posts
January 23 2010 10:53 GMT
#3028
Release this particular replay? Then everyone could see how it panned out with their own eyes and maybe not make so big a mystery of it.
L E E J A E D O N G ! <3
ToeJam
Profile Joined April 2009
United States282 Posts
January 23 2010 10:53 GMT
#3029
ums for warm up!!! of just reggae mermaid
diehilde
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany1596 Posts
January 23 2010 10:53 GMT
#3030
lol ads again.... i gues somewhere in a dark room, an mbc chief executive is crying as he hangs himself...
Savior: "I will cheat everyone again in SC2!" - SCII Beta Tester
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
January 23 2010 10:53 GMT
#3031
I guess it really it due to controversy from the last game that is delaying the fourth game.
CDRdude
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States5625 Posts
January 23 2010 10:53 GMT
#3032
I'm wondering if the power outage is even MBC's fault. Is it their venue, or are they renting it from another agency? Because of the stuff about the 1k spectator cap, I got the impression that they were renting the venue, and therefore have no control over backup power generators.

Also, are we sure they didn't have backup power generators? The power was out for only like 5 seconds. I'm not sure how long it takes to transfer to the backups, but I doubt it's instantaneous. And for all those people saying to look at the replay, there isn't a replay. Replays are autosaved when a game ends. Since the computers crashed, no replay was saved.
Force staff is the best item in the game.
Mortician
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Bulgaria2332 Posts
January 23 2010 10:53 GMT
#3033
On January 23 2010 19:52 cz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2010 19:50 KwarK wrote:
On January 23 2010 19:48 jalstar wrote:
There was no way Flash was winning that. He went 2 base allin and needed to shut down JDs economy with his last big push. He failed, his push gaining no ground and his vessel count being totally destroyed. With only 2 vessels against 5 gas defilers it would be impossible for Flash to push into 7. That left him on two mining bases (his main was empty) with one of those about to be mined out. He'd lost map control, his push had failed and JD had the entire Z tech tree and the gas to use it.
Not giving JD the win would have been unfair. Flash's build failed and there was no fallback option for him. JD's income was several times his and Flash had no new bases coming. It was done.


Flash had 3 bases and Jaedong had 4 gas.

Flash had 2 mining bases, one of which was about to be mined out. JD had his main gas, his nat gas, his 2nd nat gas and the double gas at 7. That's 5.


Flash had just taken an expo


JD had no drones @ 7
"If anything, the skill cap in sc2 is higher [than sc1] because there are a lot more things you can do at one given time. " darmousseh
cz
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3249 Posts
January 23 2010 10:53 GMT
#3034
On January 23 2010 19:53 3nickma wrote:
Release this particular replay? Then everyone could see how it panned out with their own eyes and maybe not make so big a mystery of it.


Don't think there is a replay
noojOh
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States755 Posts
January 23 2010 10:53 GMT
#3035
this is retarded
rent a venue which has never been used before for esports and watch it get a black out because it simply can't handle it
ftw
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42539 Posts
January 23 2010 10:53 GMT
#3036
On January 23 2010 19:52 cz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2010 19:50 KwarK wrote:
On January 23 2010 19:48 jalstar wrote:
There was no way Flash was winning that. He went 2 base allin and needed to shut down JDs economy with his last big push. He failed, his push gaining no ground and his vessel count being totally destroyed. With only 2 vessels against 5 gas defilers it would be impossible for Flash to push into 7. That left him on two mining bases (his main was empty) with one of those about to be mined out. He'd lost map control, his push had failed and JD had the entire Z tech tree and the gas to use it.
Not giving JD the win would have been unfair. Flash's build failed and there was no fallback option for him. JD's income was several times his and Flash had no new bases coming. It was done.


Flash had 3 bases and Jaedong had 4 gas.

Flash had 2 mining bases, one of which was about to be mined out. JD had his main gas, his nat gas, his 2nd nat gas and the double gas at 7. That's 5.


Flash had just taken an expo

Which is why I say 2 mining bases. His nat (the one almost mined out) and his 3rd which he'd just taken.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
iNfeRnaL *
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Germany1908 Posts
January 23 2010 10:53 GMT
#3037
seriously...?!
Power down is okay, nothing in MBC's hands.
BUT
ONE FUCKING HOUR OF COMMERCIALS AFTER YOU FAIL?
YOU GOTTA BE FUCKING KIDDING ME?!?!??!?
WORST ORGANIZED FUCKING FINAL EVER
FUCKING MBC MOTHERFUCKERS
SO MAD OMFG
No_eL
Profile Joined July 2007
Chile1438 Posts
January 23 2010 10:53 GMT
#3038
fuckfuckfuckfuck MBC and Kespa!! im awake all night for this! its 8:00 am now here, and only can see shity commercials and crap mbc stage

FAIL
Beat after beat i will become stronger.
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
January 23 2010 10:54 GMT
#3039
On January 23 2010 19:52 On_Slaught wrote:
This blackout puts JD in a MUCH WORSE POSITION than Flash.

If JD wins it's not a "legit" win and if he loses he's a scrub b/c he had a free win.

if Flash wins he's a legend of legends and if he loses the gets the sympathy of the world for being "cheated."

Kespa made the best decision considering the situation.

stop talking bullshit, wasnt a free win

do you guys seriously use your brain when game is on or you just watch these sweets ultras killing rines.look at the damned minimap, consider how many mins flash had left and overall game situation, then call something free win
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
andiCR
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2273 Posts
January 23 2010 10:54 GMT
#3040
Guess the power wasn't overwhelming at the station
Nightmare1795 wrote: I played a guy in bronze who said he was Japanese. That was the only game I ever dropped a nuke, which was purely coincidental.
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