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On January 17 2010 21:43 MrHoon wrote:
Movie could've blocked that Bunker Rush easily if he didn't mis-micro so badly
I mean goddamn what was that shit
Dunno if that'd have been "easy" but he definitely could have blocked it. Or at least just pull a Bisu, let the bunker go up/kill the nexus and save the probes while going range, then double expand.
I was really really disappointed in Movie's execution of just about anything he tried to accomplish during this series.
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On January 17 2010 21:43 MrHoon wrote:
Movie could've blocked that Bunker Rush easily if he didn't mis-micro so badly
I mean goddamn what was that shit
What looks like mis-micro is often times just the opponent microing way better, which was the case this time imo.
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On January 17 2010 21:43 MrHoon wrote:
Movie could've blocked that Bunker Rush easily if he didn't mis-micro so badly
I mean goddamn what was that shit
exactly my thoughts ... I think Movie just didn't have what it takes to take down Flash in PvT. And i think early game recall when expected is weak as hell, better to wait till late game and then use multiple recalling and stuff
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On January 17 2010 21:41 Chen wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2010 21:37 FireGuyX wrote:On January 17 2010 21:35 Severedevil wrote:On January 17 2010 21:28 FireGuyX wrote:
It still amazes me how Flash was so confident cheesing, against Protoss too. After losing in game 3, I was thinking Flash was going to play standard and do a two-base timing attack like he did against Stork, but not he did a bunker rush as if he knew it was going to work. Didn't he scout Movie's fast nexus before he committed to the bunker rush? In that circumstance it's not cheesy at all. Oh that's what happened, I didn't see the 4th set, I had to read summery of the game, I'm trying to imagine what happened. why would you assume anything else? when would you ever bunker rush a protoss other than a 12-nex situation?
Sorry I'm not familiar with the mechanics of SC. I have played enough BW to know what's going on.
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Movie's game needs more refinement, like SkyHigh. Whether or not he can keep up the pace and become a great player or slump, like Skyhigh, is yet to be seen.
The main problem with Protosses seems to be you can't reach elite levels at PvZ and PvT at the same time. I suppose they'd have to just be lucky and be strong vs the other race that's currently dominating.
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On January 17 2010 21:52 FireGuyX wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2010 21:41 Chen wrote:On January 17 2010 21:37 FireGuyX wrote:On January 17 2010 21:35 Severedevil wrote:On January 17 2010 21:28 FireGuyX wrote:
It still amazes me how Flash was so confident cheesing, against Protoss too. After losing in game 3, I was thinking Flash was going to play standard and do a two-base timing attack like he did against Stork, but not he did a bunker rush as if he knew it was going to work. Didn't he scout Movie's fast nexus before he committed to the bunker rush? In that circumstance it's not cheesy at all. Oh that's what happened, I didn't see the 4th set, I had to read summery of the game, I'm trying to imagine what happened. why would you assume anything else? when would you ever bunker rush a protoss other than a 12-nex situation? Sorry I'm not familiar with the mechanics of SC. I have played enough BW to know what's going on.
Still you have 836 posts
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Fuck Carrier Kim.
Why'd you have to pick Movie?
God! PLEASE! Tell me WHY?
=(
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On January 17 2010 21:55 Zoler wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2010 21:52 FireGuyX wrote:On January 17 2010 21:41 Chen wrote:On January 17 2010 21:37 FireGuyX wrote:On January 17 2010 21:35 Severedevil wrote:On January 17 2010 21:28 FireGuyX wrote:
It still amazes me how Flash was so confident cheesing, against Protoss too. After losing in game 3, I was thinking Flash was going to play standard and do a two-base timing attack like he did against Stork, but not he did a bunker rush as if he knew it was going to work. Didn't he scout Movie's fast nexus before he committed to the bunker rush? In that circumstance it's not cheesy at all. Oh that's what happened, I didn't see the 4th set, I had to read summery of the game, I'm trying to imagine what happened. why would you assume anything else? when would you ever bunker rush a protoss other than a 12-nex situation? Sorry I'm not familiar with the mechanics of SC. I have played enough BW to know what's going on. Still you have 836 posts
so does ver
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On January 17 2010 21:47 Emon_ wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2010 21:35 Holgerius wrote:
Stop calling any attempt to punish a Toss for 12 Nex cheese. Quoted for truth. Terran will usually counter with a bunker and take the nexus out - bunker costs 150, 4 marines = 200 + 4 scvs and the mining time they lose = ~900minerals lost in the end. Thats a good trade for the original 400 that the nexus cost. Now, if you try to defend the nexus with probes and dragoons and lose them along with the nexus. . . thats another story. Flash vs. Jaedong will be epic in a week
No, it's not a good trade. The reason Terran has to do this is because otherwise, he would be too far behind economically.
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On January 17 2010 22:02 SuperJongMan wrote:
Fuck Carrier Kim.
Why'd you have to pick Movie?
God! PLEASE! Tell me WHY?
=(
just as planned
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On January 17 2010 21:47 Emon_ wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2010 21:35 Holgerius wrote:
Stop calling any attempt to punish a Toss for 12 Nex cheese. Quoted for truth. Terran will usually counter with a bunker and take the nexus out - bunker costs 150, 4 marines = 200 + 4 scvs and the mining time they lose = ~900minerals lost in the end. Thats a good trade for the original 400 that the nexus cost. Now, if you try to defend the nexus with probes and dragoons and lose them along with the nexus. . . thats another story. Flash vs. Jaedong will be epic in a week
If protoss doesnt try to defend, those 900 minerals worth of units and bunker arent lost. The bunker is still there. Terran usually makes marines anyway and they aren't "lost" like the 400 minerals for the nexus which gets destroyed. You lose some mining time, but you can expand before toss and you'll have a bunker in his natural. Seems pretty good trade for the terran imo
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Btw, I love how Flash has started using 1 Rax FE so much recently. Awesome build.
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On January 17 2010 21:47 PoP wrote:
I was really really disappointed in Movie's execution of just about anything he tried to accomplish during this series.
IMO Movie played great. I mean he played against pretty much the best progamer atm, being a potential Royal Roader, so he had no experience whatsoever with big tournaments! And all games he did a ton of good stuff, putting him ahead very often, and you can't say that Flash had a walkover in any of the games (except the 4th ofc).
I think that if Movie doesn't get depressed over this loss and continues to play and improve just a little bit, he'll soon become the best protoss, surpassing the current top P players.
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I'm late, but I just wanna say...
CONGRATULATIONS FLASH!
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Flash won quite easily 
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Congratulations Flash! We always knew you had the ability and mental fortitude to stand at the top again, make 2010 the year of Flash.
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Now I am hyped for next week!
Flash --> 2 gold! 2 gold!
Go go! Flash Fighting!
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EPT
