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[OSL] EVER 2009 OSL Grand Final - Flash vs Movie - Page 198

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dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
January 20 2010 02:38 GMT
#3941
Regarding Flash's depot walls, I thought they were ingenious. How come he is the only one who is doing it regularly?
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
January 20 2010 02:41 GMT
#3942
He's the only one that gets to that lategame phase where you can throw down 800 minerals worth of depots to purely wall without getting recalled into oblivion. Every other terran tries to end games with timing pushes and either wins with it or gets stalled + counter recalled + gateway pumped to death.
Remember Violet.
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
January 20 2010 02:54 GMT
#3943
So basically he has perfected the art of turtling.
Marine50
Profile Joined September 2007
Australia1764 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-20 03:51:33
January 20 2010 03:24 GMT
#3944
On January 20 2010 11:38 dukethegold wrote:
Regarding Flash's depot walls, I thought they were ingenious. How come he is the only one who is doing it regularly?

Hes a revolutionary genius

edit: also terrans tend to avoid heartbreak so not as many opportunities doing it
IRIS FIGHTING!!!
BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
January 20 2010 03:43 GMT
#3945
On January 20 2010 11:38 dukethegold wrote:
Regarding Flash's depot walls, I thought they were ingenious. How come he is the only one who is doing it regularly?

Iris did it in his game vs BeSt.
Sun Tzu once said, "Defiler becomes useless at the presences of a vessel."
Marine50
Profile Joined September 2007
Australia1764 Posts
January 20 2010 03:49 GMT
#3946
On January 20 2010 12:43 BanZu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2010 11:38 dukethegold wrote:
Regarding Flash's depot walls, I thought they were ingenious. How come he is the only one who is doing it regularly?

Iris did it in his game vs BeSt.

he was talking about the one to the right hand side of the first ridge. Not the one above the natural defending the top lane. At least I thought he was
IRIS FIGHTING!!!
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
January 20 2010 03:54 GMT
#3947
On January 19 2010 08:15 nodule wrote:
You guys think Movie was planning on his proxy robo being scouted in game 1? I doubt it. He knew that flash's reaction to the gas steal would be 1rax no gas expand, and it makes sense to try to punish that with fast reavers.

He did make a good decision to let the proxy finish but not use it after it was scouted, but it seems unlikely that that was his plan. How can you plan on Flash having that ridiculous starsense?

I doubt movie planned for flash scouting it. He was probably going to opt for reavers, but obviously had to adopt to the situation. I thought it was a good decision. (Hope Flash plays defensively and waste money on defense while going for double expo) I thought movie was in a good position..but flash is ridiculous.
BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
January 20 2010 03:58 GMT
#3948
On January 20 2010 12:49 Marine50 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2010 12:43 BanZu wrote:
On January 20 2010 11:38 dukethegold wrote:
Regarding Flash's depot walls, I thought they were ingenious. How come he is the only one who is doing it regularly?

Iris did it in his game vs BeSt.

he was talking about the one to the right hand side of the first ridge. Not the one above the natural defending the top lane. At least I thought he was

Well he said depot WALLS so I don't think it really matters. Iris also made a wall on the right side except he didn't put it to the RIGHT of the ridge. I suppose this is because Iris and Best were playing on the original HBR so it doesn't benefit Iris to put his depot wall to the right of that particular ridge. For the new HBR, by placing a wall in that spot, Terran can grab the mineral only and defend it really easily.
Sun Tzu once said, "Defiler becomes useless at the presences of a vessel."
chisuri
Profile Joined January 2010
Vietnam789 Posts
January 20 2010 06:58 GMT
#3949
@T.O.P: why you changed the spoiler of "Still wondering why Flash likes Nicole?". I mean the .gif, I want to know which KARA's performance that comes from. If you're reading this plz tell me where did you get that. Thanks in advance.
T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-20 07:15:03
January 20 2010 07:12 GMT
#3950
Cause you guys used 40 GB of my bandwidth!! You could download it on the link below.

Nicole.gif

It came from KARA's MBC Gayo Daejun performance.
+ Show Spoiler +

Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4839 Posts
January 20 2010 07:26 GMT
#3951
On January 20 2010 11:38 dukethegold wrote:
Regarding Flash's depot walls, I thought they were ingenious. How come he is the only one who is doing it regularly?

Every RTS player worth their salt has thought of walling in with buildings. This isn't new - what's new is a Terran who is patient and capable enough to camp like crazy and deny Recall attempts so cleanly.

Why isn't this completely standard? Either most Terrans can't handle it (nerves/less skillful defense) or non-Movie Protoss players have tended to defeat it. (Flash got his third and fourth up much too easily.)
My strategy is to fork people.
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