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7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
January 07 2010 19:06 GMT
#2101
On January 08 2010 03:37 d(O.o)a wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2010 00:51 Piste wrote:
On January 07 2010 23:24 Black Gun wrote:
seems like i am the only skt + best + bisu fan who really likes flash and the way he plays...
ok, the game on matchpoint today was annoying, but i can understand that flash was scared of best after what happened last time he pushed him in their proleague match.

i am rather disappointed in best because he really didnt put up the fight he should and could have....

You're not alone.



I guess you can add banzu to that list as well
but isnt it still funny how Jaedong + Flash fans overall seem to get along much better than for example bisu/jd bisu/flash fans
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Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8148 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-07 19:18:53
January 07 2010 19:17 GMT
#2102
I'm going to rofl so hard if Kwanro beats flash in the semis


and even harder if somehow stats/kal/hwasin beat JD and the MSL once again gets fucked out of a super awesome final and gets 2 people no one wants to watch.
Free Palestine
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
January 07 2010 19:32 GMT
#2103
I like Flash and I hope he gets OSL and MSL this season, but I also hope he proceeds to get raped hard after that. The universe is out of balance right now and JD or Bisu need to give Flash a good whoopin' to put it back in order.
Titanidis
Profile Joined April 2006
Greece132 Posts
January 07 2010 19:59 GMT
#2104
people saying flash's dominance is reducing viewership should remember the numbers of people watching the 3 streams today
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-07 20:22:18
January 07 2010 20:17 GMT
#2105
On January 08 2010 02:23 SuperArc wrote:
There's really no reason to hyping already, act like Flash, wait till the title(s) come. Leta/Effort were in the same position as Flash before (Huge winstreaks, total dominance). But it didnt last. The only reason Flash is still getting so much TL hate is because of his fans. All this overhype gets annoying.

Leta and Effort aren't even viable comparisons, mainly because their proleague dominance wasn't backed up by Bo5 experience. It doesn't matter that you're 11-0 or whatever in Bo1 proleague games if you have no Bo5 experience. The last game of Leta vs. Luxury in Lost Saga MSL is a testament to this. The fact that he immediately responded to an early Den in game 5 with double bunkers proves that he had no feeling for the dynamics of a Bo5--an all-in in game 5 is extremely unlikely. Flash however, is known to be perfectly capable of handling a Bo5 series. He's done it before, and will do it again.
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PangO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Chile1870 Posts
January 07 2010 20:28 GMT
#2106
On January 07 2010 22:39 johanes wrote:
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On January 07 2010 22:30 StylishVODs wrote:
from flash interview.

- You played defensively in the second set.
▲ I had no choice, due to the way the map is designed. If I split the map in half, then of course the Terran wins. The Protoss should go for a head-on attack, but I think BeSt thought that would cost him too much.

I also think that map is abit wierd for tvp, its designed for turtlemode..

Very similar to bluestorm imo


Yea that map is just worst i guess.
In Economics, the majority is always wrong. aka: MattRz
khersai
Profile Joined April 2008
Poland366 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-07 20:56:03
January 07 2010 20:54 GMT
#2107
now just crush Jaedong again and all haters shall just shut the fuck up
and how the hell can you overhype Flash with his recent performance ?
will the Legendary Protoss please stand up, please stand up
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7817 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-07 21:07:31
January 07 2010 21:06 GMT
#2108
Best played so bad this series. Although game 2 was boring from Flash it's BeSt's fault for having these dumb ass builds and refusing to try and play a straight up game vs Flash. Even before this series BeSt's wins against Flash were very well planned out build orders specifically for Flash (Collo and FS) or a mistake on Flash's part (TOTM)... (Obviously BeSt still deserves credit.. I'm just pointing it out)

Can't rely on cutesy stuff every game to win a Bo5 BeSt -_-. Ugh his builds in game 1 and 2 were sooooo bad. Gas steal... into... nothing? Quick 3rd base... into... tech... so you have no units? BeSt fans have no one to blame but him for this ugly 0-3.

Why not just play a normal game? Or at least have a creative cheese... or something.
maneatingshoe
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada484 Posts
January 07 2010 21:14 GMT
#2109
On January 08 2010 04:59 Titanidis wrote:
people saying flash's dominance is reducing viewership should remember the numbers of people watching the 3 streams today


Agreed there were so many people on every stream! if only MBCgame knew what audience they`re missing out on! I really just want games in english to be honest
iloveHieu
Profile Joined November 2007
United States1919 Posts
January 07 2010 21:24 GMT
#2110
man Kwanro is seriously good.
Xellos <3
538
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary3932 Posts
January 07 2010 21:27 GMT
#2111
On January 08 2010 06:14 maneatingshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2010 04:59 Titanidis wrote:
people saying flash's dominance is reducing viewership should remember the numbers of people watching the 3 streams today


Agreed there were so many people on every stream! if only MBCgame knew what audience they`re missing out on! I really just want games in english to be honest


Those viewers actually had more to do with the chinese streams failing than Flash playing, actually. And in turn, probably an english stream is not everyone's dream:-p
Even though i think most of us on TL would welcome it
BW fighting!
Saturnize
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2473 Posts
January 07 2010 21:29 GMT
#2112
Game 2 was intense, Best put up a fight at surprising times even thought i knew flash's economy was pretty good.
"Time to put the mustard on the hotdog. -_-"
Saturnize
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2473 Posts
January 07 2010 21:30 GMT
#2113
On January 08 2010 04:59 Titanidis wrote:
people saying flash's dominance is reducing viewership should remember the numbers of people watching the 3 streams today


There were almost 4k on Mystlords stream and probably 2k on roffles stream. Not to mention all of the other streams outside of TL.
"Time to put the mustard on the hotdog. -_-"
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
January 07 2010 21:34 GMT
#2114
On January 08 2010 06:30 Saturnize wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2010 04:59 Titanidis wrote:
people saying flash's dominance is reducing viewership should remember the numbers of people watching the 3 streams today


There were almost 4k on Mystlords stream and probably 2k on roffles stream. Not to mention all of the other streams outside of TL.

Not to mention our streams were flooded with Chinese people. TL at its max only can top out at 2k viewers total. With a little help with the Chinese though, that number skyrockets a lot.
God Bless
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
January 07 2010 21:45 GMT
#2115
Wouldn't it be funny if Stats beat Jaedong and Flash, it would be like a certain other MSL...
Xenocide_Knight
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Korea (South)2625 Posts
January 07 2010 21:48 GMT
#2116
On January 08 2010 06:45 BlackMagister wrote:
Wouldn't it be funny if Stats beat Jaedong and Flash, it would be like a certain other MSL...

oh god no
the horror
Shine[Kal] #1 fan
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
January 07 2010 21:49 GMT
#2117
On January 07 2010 20:17 Salteador Neo wrote:
Oh well at least Best had the balls to attack into a 200 pop 3/3 T army.

Flash didn't, and Best doesnt have sieged tanks xd

GG


All of you are idiots. It's either "Flash fucking turtle noob" or "Flash suicide army lolololol noob." Starcraft isn't about bravery; if you're assured victory by starving your opponent, why risk anything?

Besides, FLASH NUKED HIM =_=
:)
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-07 23:29:12
January 07 2010 23:14 GMT
#2118
On January 08 2010 02:23 SuperArc wrote:

There's really no reason to hyping already, act like Flash, wait till the title(s) come. Leta/Effort were in the same position as Flash before (Huge winstreaks, total dominance). But it didnt last. The only reason Flash is still getting so much TL hate is because of his fans. All this overhype gets annoying.


I don't think you have any idea what you're talking about.

You can't begin to compare Leta/Effort to Flash for multiple reasons.

1) Flash is in the OSL finals and the MSL semi's having lost a total of what... 2 games? Leta and Effort never even made it that far in one league or the other, much less at the same time (Except for Leta's pitiful performance in the Lost Saga... I forget what round that way though)
2) This is not the first time Flash has gone on a killing spree. I don't know if you know this but Flash has in fact WON an OSL before... you know this...right? This already gives him credibility that Effort and Leta can't even touch.
3) Overhyped? It's mother fucking Flash.
4) Most people with any common sense realize that someone of Flash's skill level shouldn't have sat at only one starleague win for so long. Flash is every bit as skilled as Jaedong so seeing the guy at only one gold for an inordinate amount of time is odd. He's already shown he has the ability to win.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
rmm
Profile Joined November 2009
United States8 Posts
January 07 2010 23:26 GMT
#2119
flash vs jaedong for MSL finals plz
KTF - forever
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
January 07 2010 23:50 GMT
#2120
On January 08 2010 08:14 Jayme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2010 02:23 SuperArc wrote:

There's really no reason to hyping already, act like Flash, wait till the title(s) come. Leta/Effort were in the same position as Flash before (Huge winstreaks, total dominance). But it didnt last. The only reason Flash is still getting so much TL hate is because of his fans. All this overhype gets annoying.


I don't think you have any idea what you're talking about.

You can't begin to compare Leta/Effort to Flash for multiple reasons.

1) Flash is in the OSL finals and the MSL semi's having lost a total of what... 2 games? Leta and Effort never even made it that far in one league or the other, much less at the same time (Except for Leta's pitiful performance in the Lost Saga... I forget what round that way though)
2) This is not the first time Flash has gone on a killing spree. I don't know if you know this but Flash has in fact WON an OSL before... you know this...right? This already gives him credibility that Effort and Leta can't even touch.
3) Overhyped? It's mother fucking Flash.
4) Most people with any common sense realize that someone of Flash's skill level shouldn't have sat at only one starleague win for so long. Flash is every bit as skilled as Jaedong so seeing the guy at only one gold for an inordinate amount of time is odd. He's already shown he has the ability to win.


I really think there have been enough people now pointing out that he was wrong...
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