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Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21243 Posts
January 07 2010 06:33 GMT
#121
On January 07 2010 14:34 Whiplash wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2010 14:22 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On January 07 2010 14:11 dukethegold wrote:

Ironically, I think this post would fit Savior v.s. Reach in the UZOO MSL final.


Except Reach was already good, and already recognized as good, as opposed to Movie who's recognized as good but isn't actually good. And Reach wasn't a cheesy all-in'ing Protoss vT and vP either.


Incase you didn't see the 3rd game between Movie vs Zero, you might want to check that and then say whether movie is good or not.

I'm rooting for movie, I imagine it will be 3-4 him.


1. There was no third game;
2. I said he has bad vT and vP. Which is true.
TranslatorBaa!
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-07 07:00:23
January 07 2010 06:46 GMT
#122
How to Beat Flash in a ZvT:
1. Make Muta
2. Pray to Jesus that Flash misplaces turret
3. ????
4. Profit!!!!!

For these rookies, this is the true OSL final for them. For a rookie to reach the OSL final is extremely unbelievable. Type-b also reached the semi-final, but nobody recognizes him nowadays because it was just the semi-final and he sucked. A silver medal means a lot to a rookie. There is as much on the stake here as the actual final.

Anyhow, why is El Niño so imba? Why is it so in favor of Zerg? Anybody got any insightful analysis here?
Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4838 Posts
January 07 2010 06:58 GMT
#123
On January 07 2010 15:46 dukethegold wrote:Anyhow, why is El Niño so imba? Why is it so in favor of Zerg? Anybody got any insightful analysis here?

There might be a way for Protoss to play it to deny this outcome, but as it stands... Zerg gets two of the three main bases --> four gas from defending two locations, while Protoss has a very hard time getting a third gas. I'm guessing the best way to play El Nino is to play very aggressively off 1-2 bases as Protoss (for example, five gate dragoon) to deny Zerg the second main.
My strategy is to fork people.
Kashll
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1117 Posts
January 07 2010 06:59 GMT
#124
This is going to be a nailbiter. Movies PvZ is amazing, but so is shine's ZvP
"After silence, that which comes nearest to expressing the inexpressible is music." - Aldous Huxley
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
January 07 2010 09:20 GMT
#125
On January 07 2010 15:58 Severedevil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2010 15:46 dukethegold wrote:Anyhow, why is El Niño so imba? Why is it so in favor of Zerg? Anybody got any insightful analysis here?

There might be a way for Protoss to play it to deny this outcome, but as it stands... Zerg gets two of the three main bases --> four gas from defending two locations, while Protoss has a very hard time getting a third gas. I'm guessing the best way to play El Nino is to play very aggressively off 1-2 bases as Protoss (for example, five gate dragoon) to deny Zerg the second main.


From what I understand, It promotes all racial imba due to difficulty of getting 3rd gas.
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
FireGuyX
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1712 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-07 11:35:02
January 07 2010 11:31 GMT
#126
On January 07 2010 11:43 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2010 11:17 FireGuyX wrote:
I think some people are really underestimating Movie's ZvP. He's not Stork


Yeah, he's worse than Stork.

Too many Movie fanboys >_>


In ZvP? Sure Stork is better overall because he has the experience, but I'm talking about right now.
Flash, ForGG, and Movie fan.
UGC4
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Peru532 Posts
January 07 2010 11:57 GMT
#127
movie is the type of player that can do anything. to back this up, i only need to remind you of movie vs pure. if the kid really wants it, he can do anything against anybody. he can beat any zerg he wants, including jaedong, he can beat any protoss he wants, including stork/bisu, and he can beat any terran he wants, including flash. just wait and see.

every time i see movie play, i get the feeling that he poured out his heart practicing and that he tries SO HARD, harder than any other protoss i've ever seen. so when he prepares, it takes a lot to stop him. i expect 3-0 from movie, nothing less. and 3-1 in the finals.
#1 Movie fan~ he's got so much skill it oozes out of his skin in the form of acne. ~family comes first~
FireGuyX
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1712 Posts
January 07 2010 12:06 GMT
#128
On January 07 2010 20:57 UGC4 wrote:
movie is the type of player that can do anything. to back this up, i only need to remind you of movie vs pure. if the kid really wants it, he can do anything against anybody. he can beat any zerg he wants, including jaedong, he can beat any protoss he wants, including stork/bisu, and he can beat any terran he wants, including flash. just wait and see.

every time i see movie play, i get the feeling that he poured out his heart practicing and that he tries SO HARD, harder than any other protoss i've ever seen. so when he prepares, it takes a lot to stop him. i expect 3-0 from movie, nothing less. and 3-1 in the finals.



I'm a Movie fan too, but he's not beating Flash.
Flash, ForGG, and Movie fan.
Promises
Profile Joined February 2004
Netherlands1821 Posts
January 07 2010 12:15 GMT
#129
Realistically I dont see anyone still in MSL/OSL take on Flash at the moment.
I'm a man of my word, and that word is "unreliable".
Majk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden146 Posts
January 07 2010 12:18 GMT
#130
It a bit sad that El Niño is played twice, it doesn't feel fair to be honest...
snotboogie
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia3550 Posts
January 07 2010 12:19 GMT
#131
I HATE EL NINO.

But Movie will win anyway. Make way for the heir apparent to the Protoss throne.
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
January 07 2010 12:19 GMT
#132
Yeah Movie is probably going to get his Silver this OSL. But next OSL might be his is he improve on his PvT (should be easier matchup compare to PvZ), then maybe.
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
Yoghurt
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia31 Posts
January 07 2010 13:16 GMT
#133
movie ftw
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-07 14:20:59
January 07 2010 14:19 GMT
#134
a map which is 8-2 in ZvP is being played twice is bullshit , really

i dont see Movie owning this , i want him to win so bad , but he will fall to Shines mutalisk bullshit and 5 hatch hydra , or maps ...

ehh , Jin Young Hwa FIGHTIIING !!!
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whathappened
Profile Joined December 2009
United States213 Posts
January 07 2010 14:30 GMT
#135
On January 07 2010 21:15 Promises wrote:
Realistically I dont see anyone still in MSL/OSL take on Flash at the moment.


Jaedong has a second chance in the MSL. You can't count Kal out, even though he's not as statistically strong as 4 of the other Dragons, he's at his highest ELO point ranking currently. Also, you can't expect Flash to auto-win in any league. This is Starcraft after all, balance is the game. There's always a chance of an upset.

As for this series, this match should probably be the best Set of 5 from both leagues. Even if there's a plethora of anti-Flash fans, they should still get a high entertainment value out of this OSL Semi-finals. On one side of the board, you got the new rising ZvP beast that is Shine. His macro and decision-making when it comes to unit timings and production to expanding. But, on the other side.. you got Movie who shouldn't need an introduction: PvZ at its finest under the obligatory S-class.

Please, oh please, Movie and Shine-- makes these the games of your season. Sadly, their runs after this will become much, much harder. But looking on the bright-side.. OSL Silver is nothing to be ashamed of, its more than a lot of players have attained.
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
January 07 2010 14:35 GMT
#136
If Movie wins its gonna be extra epic because of the imba maps xD

Revolutionist fan
whathappened
Profile Joined December 2009
United States213 Posts
January 07 2010 14:42 GMT
#137
On January 07 2010 23:35 Salteador Neo wrote:
If Movie wins its gonna be extra epic because of the imba maps xD


Indeed.

Hopefully, it'll give Protosses some ideas and the confidence to have a forceful presence into the top-10. It is so sickening to see that many zergs up on the KeSPA list. The Firebats and High Templars must be on vacation, I guess.

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alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
January 07 2010 14:45 GMT
#138
GO MOVIEEEE~ defeat lameo shine ;d
Graphicssavior[gm] : What is a “yawn” rape ;; Masumune - It was the year of the pig for those fucking defilers. Chill - A clinic you say? okum: SC without Korean yelling is like porn without sex. konamix: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOMMY!
valaki
Profile Joined June 2009
Hungary2476 Posts
January 07 2010 15:00 GMT
#139
GO MOVIE!
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FireGuyX
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1712 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-07 17:27:18
January 07 2010 15:08 GMT
#140
On January 07 2010 23:35 Salteador Neo wrote:
If Movie wins its gonna be extra epic because of the imba maps xD




EOTS is a zerg favored map, yet Movie dominated Zero on that map. The maps are definitely in Shine's favor but Movie is a good cheeser and can counter mass mutas. It's not impossible for Movie to win on El-Nino and HBR.
Flash, ForGG, and Movie fan.
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