EPT[OSL] EVER OSL Semi-Final B: Movie vs Shine - Page 5
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Promises
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Carnivorous Sheep
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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
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Lebesgue
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Shine is not looking much better in ZvT though... | ||
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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
On January 07 2010 09:04 Lebesgue wrote: Why do people think Movie is a bigger threat to Flash than Shine. Just because Flash lost a couple of close games to top PvTers? Cause Movie's PvT is not that hot. He has 46% winrate in this matchup and in last 10 official games is 5-5. Shine is not looking much better in ZvT though... Shine has no lategame AT ALL, movie has at least some. | ||
Womwomwom
5930 Posts
On January 07 2010 09:04 Lebesgue wrote: Why do people think Movie is a bigger threat to Flash than Shine. Just because Flash lost a couple of close games to top PvTers? Cause Movie's PvT is not that hot. He has 46% winrate in this matchup and in last 10 official games is 5-5. Shine is not looking much better in ZvT though... I agree. Even if Flash's PvT armoury build might have trouble accepting the current trends of PvT, its still a powerhouse against all but the very best PvTers. Movie isn't one of the best from what we've seen and if we include Flash's recent games where he's shown more unpredictability by using some extremely aggressive timing attacks, I really don't think Movie has anything in his toolbox to beat Flash. Shine's not hot in ZvT but at least his mutalisk control is pretty good at that might take some games against Flash. Yeah, his hive tech control is bad but you're pretty much going to die to Flash in the ZvT late game anyway so it doesn't really matter that much. | ||
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fishyjoes
Germany644 Posts
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Caphe
Vietnam10817 Posts
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dukethegold
Canada5645 Posts
... ... It is possible. Like if Flash gets back injury or catches H1N1. | ||
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Hinanawi
United States2250 Posts
As for who would have a better chance against Flash, I don't know, but I think Movie would produce more entertaining games. If Shine makes it to the finals, he'll be using all-in builds against Flash every single game. Flash does lose to those builds sometimes, but in a Bo5? Not going to happen, I think... Movie can hang in there into the mid and late-game, but Flash is Flash and Movie is not Stork/BeSt, both of whom Flash recently capped. But at least they'll be entertaining games. | ||
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lone_hydra
Canada1460 Posts
But anyways, it would be awesome to see the most hated player win the OSL to create utmost create chaos on on TL. | ||
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Dark.Carnival
United States5095 Posts
On January 07 2010 09:04 Lebesgue wrote: Why do people think Movie is a bigger threat to Flash than Shine. Just because Flash lost a couple of close games to top PvTers? Cause Movie's PvT is not that hot. He has 46% winrate in this matchup and in last 10 official games is 5-5. Shine is not looking much better in ZvT though... movie has a better chance of at least putting up a fight against flash. shine only has a slim chance if he is able to end the game with his mutas early, which might only work once against flash. not that movie is going to do well against him either, but has a slightly better odds. | ||
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Avidkeystamper
United States8556 Posts
Movie and Shine's vT MU is no where close to Flash's vP or vZ, I'd be surprised if they lasted longer than an hour of combined play time against Flash. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On January 07 2010 09:04 Lebesgue wrote: Why do people think Movie is a bigger threat to Flash than Shine. Just because Flash lost a couple of close games to top PvTers? Cause Movie's PvT is not that hot. He has 46% winrate in this matchup and in last 10 official games is 5-5. Shine is not looking much better in ZvT though... Realistically I don't think anyone thinks either of them are a threat to Flash. It's just that seeing Flash's FvZ for the past few months Movie looks to have more of a chance. I mean seriously if you're life depended on a progamer taking 1 game off of Flash and you had to choose between Shine and Movie would you honestly take Shine? | ||
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arcticStorm
United States295 Posts
 Movie wins this and loses to  Flash, I will still like Movie.If  Shine wins this and loses to Flash. I will hate Shine forever, unless he takes it to five sets in interesting games. Then I'll be "meh" | ||
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FireGuyX
United States1712 Posts
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FireGuyX
United States1712 Posts
Just like Zero, Shine is going to be in for a shock and I wouldn't be surprised if Movie wins on El-Nino. Sure El-Nino is a ZvP favored map, but if anybody can win on an imbalanced map it's Movie. | ||
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FireGuyX
United States1712 Posts
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
On January 07 2010 10:37 Ace wrote: Realistically I don't think anyone thinks either of them are a threat to Flash. It's just that seeing Flash's FvZ for the past few months Movie looks to have more of a chance. I mean seriously if you're life depended on a progamer taking 1 game off of Flash and you had to choose between Shine and Movie would you honestly take Shine? I would. Flash's only losses in tvz come from really aggressive muta play that pokes a hole in his defense. What's shine's MO? Really aggressive muta play that pokes holes in defense. Movie, on the otherhand, flounders early game PvT and hopes he can win by throwing arbiters at the T until he loses -- a viable strategy, but unless you have Best's perfect macro, I don't think you can make up for early game mistakes vs Flash. | ||
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