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[OSL] EVER OSL Semi-Final B: Movie vs Shine - Page 4

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FastEddieV
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States614 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-06 21:17:18
January 06 2010 21:17 GMT
#61
Anyone else think Movie looks like a Korean Clint Eastwood? That's who I think of everytime I see him.

Oh and Shine > Movie in 5.
platinum? more like leaf
Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
January 06 2010 21:21 GMT
#62
On January 07 2010 06:13 BanZu wrote:
On the contrary, I think if Shine made it to the finals, it'd be a true test of his skill. I think Flash vs Shine would be awesome.


I guess Shine is on a roll since he has won a couple over a couple of S-rank gamers. Though he did lose to Hwasin twice in the MSL qualifiers. And Hwasin was playing mediocre.
"I know that human beings and fish can coexist peacefully" -GWB ||
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-06 21:45:48
January 06 2010 21:36 GMT
#63
On January 07 2010 05:48 JIJIyO wrote:
[image loading]


Jailtoss

This is my time to shine.


Holy shit, I would not want to meet this guy on the street in the darkness of the night.

On January 07 2010 06:21 Emon_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2010 06:13 BanZu wrote:
On the contrary, I think if Shine made it to the finals, it'd be a true test of his skill. I think Flash vs Shine would be awesome.


I guess Shine is on a roll since he has won a couple over a couple of S-rank gamers. Though he did lose to Hwasin twice in the MSL qualifiers. And Hwasin was playing mediocre.


Hence, a Flash v.s. Shine final will be only a slight upgrade from a Zerg v.s. Zerg final. If you take a look at Shine's ZvT record, it is quite dismal. Sure, he defeated Fantasy. But Fantasy executed a fail build. He may have 2-1 Really. But Really is no Flash and that was BO3.

I will definitely credit him as being a strong ZvP player and a good ZvZ player. I admit he is very good at ZvP. But if the road that he has walked thus far is similar to July's EVER run, which involves fighting against just Protoss and some ZvZ, it still doesn't establish him as an all-round top class player. But to his credit, Shine killed Bisu and Stork, while July killed Backho, Rock and then Best.
yhnmk
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada630 Posts
January 06 2010 21:41 GMT
#64
Yes you would. Movie is probably like 5'7.
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
January 06 2010 21:46 GMT
#65
On January 07 2010 06:41 yhnmk wrote:
Yes you would. Movie is probably like 5'7.


Not if he wears a mask.
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
January 06 2010 22:16 GMT
#66
Please Movie
stop the Protoss killer
Shine has taken down Bisu and Stork

stop hiiiiiiim
cw)minsean(ru
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
January 06 2010 22:22 GMT
#67
Everyone predicting Shine>Movie on El Nino forgot that Movie loves cheesing?

He'd lose standard play on this map, yes. But Movie isnt a standard player.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
saikeraku
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada2933 Posts
January 06 2010 22:31 GMT
#68
Go Shine!
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
January 06 2010 22:35 GMT
#69
If Movie can stop Shine or rape Shine in a Bo5, Shine will probably not ever win an OSL/MSL.
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
January 06 2010 22:39 GMT
#70
Well after seeing Movies PvT against Upmagic a few days ago, i'm not so sure a Movie v Flash series would be better than Shine v Flash.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
January 06 2010 22:45 GMT
#71
Actually after seeing that PvT vs Upmagic I'm convinced Movie would be exciting vs Flash. He had a BO opening loss vs Up and was behind economically and STILL managed to make a game out of it. Most other Protoss players (see NBS) would have been fucking rolled immediately.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
domane
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada1606 Posts
January 06 2010 22:46 GMT
#72
I predict 3-1 Shine.

Movie wins a lone game on Eye of the Storm.
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
January 06 2010 23:05 GMT
#73
On January 07 2010 07:45 Ace wrote:
Actually after seeing that PvT vs Upmagic I'm convinced Movie would be exciting vs Flash. He had a BO opening loss vs Up and was behind economically and STILL managed to make a game out of it. Most other Protoss players (see NBS) would have been fucking rolled immediately.


Not really...Movie made a game out of it because Upmagic, like always, was pretty sloppy that game. He got back into it because he destroyed one of Upmagic's first massive pushes, which was due to the carelessness of Upmagic who was kind of out of position and had basically no vultures to stop zealots running through his tanks.

I don't think Flash is the type of player to massively screw up on positioning and unit composition.
ItsBigfoot
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States432 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-06 23:17:07
January 06 2010 23:11 GMT
#74
not sure why everyone's saying (Z)Shine will win it cause of el nino, he's 2-2 there, he does much better on HBR and Eye of the Storm than on el nino

and sure, it's Z favored, but a lot of those wins were because the zerg was better

i.e. (Z)Jaedong vs (P)Movie, (Z)Calm vs (P)BackHo, (Z)Kwanro vs (P)JangBi during the slump, (Z)Calm vs (P)Pure and (Z)Luxury vs (P)GuemChi

the only losses where you could argue the P was better were Shine vs Stork, hero vs Movie, and hyuk vs pure. and hero and shine are both ZvP snipers

EDIT: also, losing to Hwasin isn't bad, hwasin's TvZ is still great.

shine's still something like 7-4 in ZvT since the start of the season
Kal Fighting!
BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
January 06 2010 23:19 GMT
#75
On January 07 2010 08:05 Womwomwom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2010 07:45 Ace wrote:
Actually after seeing that PvT vs Upmagic I'm convinced Movie would be exciting vs Flash. He had a BO opening loss vs Up and was behind economically and STILL managed to make a game out of it. Most other Protoss players (see NBS) would have been fucking rolled immediately.


Not really...Movie made a game out of it because Upmagic, like always, was pretty sloppy that game. He got back into it because he destroyed one of Upmagic's first massive pushes, which was due to the carelessness of Upmagic who was kind of out of position and had basically no vultures to stop zealots running through his tanks.

I don't think Flash is the type of player to massively screw up on positioning and unit composition.

Flash vs Best on Fighting Spirit

First big battle, exactly what he did. I don't know if it was a "massive" screw up but BeSt definitely did something about it.
Sun Tzu once said, "Defiler becomes useless at the presences of a vessel."
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32274 Posts
January 06 2010 23:23 GMT
#76
Horrible maps
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r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
January 06 2010 23:28 GMT
#77
Totally rooting for (P)Movie here although (Z)Shine impressed me big time, the only thing is that the map pool is a free win for (Z)Shine... Double El Niño? Are you kidding me?
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
January 06 2010 23:32 GMT
#78
On January 07 2010 08:19 BanZu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2010 08:05 Womwomwom wrote:
On January 07 2010 07:45 Ace wrote:
Actually after seeing that PvT vs Upmagic I'm convinced Movie would be exciting vs Flash. He had a BO opening loss vs Up and was behind economically and STILL managed to make a game out of it. Most other Protoss players (see NBS) would have been fucking rolled immediately.


Not really...Movie made a game out of it because Upmagic, like always, was pretty sloppy that game. He got back into it because he destroyed one of Upmagic's first massive pushes, which was due to the carelessness of Upmagic who was kind of out of position and had basically no vultures to stop zealots running through his tanks.

I don't think Flash is the type of player to massively screw up on positioning and unit composition.

Flash vs Best on Fighting Spirit

First big battle, exactly what he did. I don't know if it was a "massive" screw up but BeSt definitely did something about it.


There's a lot of times that Flash is caught out of position by good protoss players but generally he isn't caught out like Upmagic was. I think in the Fighting Spirit case though, Flash didn't expect high templars from Best, which is extremely stupid in my opinion but it does kind of make sense since Best generally doesn't seem to use them in PvT.
Random_0
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1163 Posts
January 06 2010 23:33 GMT
#79
I love this series because it's between 2 smart, young players.

Shine has shown wonderful aggression, micro, and in-game strategy.
Movie has shown creativity, atypical changeup play, with solid mechanics.

Should be a great series, even though these are newer players!
G3nXsiS
Profile Joined July 2009
United States656 Posts
January 06 2010 23:44 GMT
#80
I think this is 3-1 for shine. I don't think movie can overcome the map imabalance.
Hope is the first step on the road to dissapointment
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