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Hong Kong20321 Posts
On January 01 2010 21:35 Holgerius wrote:Gogogogogogogo, do it as fast as possible! Tanks in advance!
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I honestly think the people that would give Flash the harder time are the likes of Upmagic/Movie/Shine -- I think the opponent has to pull something outrageously non-standard for them to have a chance. If you do anything standard play, I think flash has it all in the bag.
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On January 01 2010 21:49 ghosthunter wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2010 21:47 MountainDewJunkie wrote:On January 01 2010 21:46 Xiphos wrote:On January 01 2010 21:44 ghosthunter wrote:On January 01 2010 21:43 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Flash versus Movie finals would be great. Movie is a creative and interesting player and Flash's TvP is shaky enough that Movie might actually have a chance. Movie's performance against Kwanro yesterday brings up the question of how he's pretty erratic. I believe the term is "Is Movie playing or is Rock playing?" Hopefully Movie will play throughout this thing, and we'll see some good games. I'm pretty sure you meant Light instead of Movie. lol That was the game, yes, but I think he's talking about that JD vs Movie game where movie just got rolled. Because Movie and Kwanro have only played once, and that was in November. Did he get rolled by M18M in the recent CJ Entus vs Samsung match? I was the post for that one, maybe that's what I'm remembering. Or perhaps it was the Jaedong match the day before I'm thinking of. All I remember was him getting stomped on bad.
Well he got stomped pretty bad in the Jaedong one. just normal stomped vs M18M.
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On January 01 2010 21:49 ghosthunter wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2010 21:47 MountainDewJunkie wrote:On January 01 2010 21:46 Xiphos wrote:On January 01 2010 21:44 ghosthunter wrote:On January 01 2010 21:43 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Flash versus Movie finals would be great. Movie is a creative and interesting player and Flash's TvP is shaky enough that Movie might actually have a chance. Movie's performance against Kwanro yesterday brings up the question of how he's pretty erratic. I believe the term is "Is Movie playing or is Rock playing?" Hopefully Movie will play throughout this thing, and we'll see some good games. I'm pretty sure you meant Light instead of Movie. lol That was the game, yes, but I think he's talking about that JD vs Movie game where movie just got rolled. Because Movie and Kwanro have only played once, and that was in November. Did he get rolled by M18M in the recent CJ Entus vs Samsung match? I was the post for that one, maybe that's what I'm remembering.
Oh, yeah yeah that was the most recent game. Even if Movie plays non- Rocklike, Shine has a great shot at the finals.
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luckily Flash only has one pro-league game as of now.
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I'd agree, Shine is actually very good, though tbh I'm pissed that Stork lost still even though it was his own fault 
I actually enjoyed Calm's play tonight, he showed a lot of strength on all fields. I mean god, I've never seen so many science vessels explode.
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On January 01 2010 21:51 MountainDewJunkie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2010 21:49 ghosthunter wrote:On January 01 2010 21:47 MountainDewJunkie wrote:On January 01 2010 21:46 Xiphos wrote:On January 01 2010 21:44 ghosthunter wrote:On January 01 2010 21:43 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Flash versus Movie finals would be great. Movie is a creative and interesting player and Flash's TvP is shaky enough that Movie might actually have a chance. Movie's performance against Kwanro yesterday brings up the question of how he's pretty erratic. I believe the term is "Is Movie playing or is Rock playing?" Hopefully Movie will play throughout this thing, and we'll see some good games. I'm pretty sure you meant Light instead of Movie. lol That was the game, yes, but I think he's talking about that JD vs Movie game where movie just got rolled. Because Movie and Kwanro have only played once, and that was in November. Did he get rolled by M18M in the recent CJ Entus vs Samsung match? I was the post for that one, maybe that's what I'm remembering. Oh, yeah yeah that was the most recent game. Even if Movie plays non- Rocklike, Shine has a great shot at the finals.
Movies PvZ is better than Storks. He is not to be underestimated, despite the first two games will be a zerg favored map. Movie is even capable of winning on HBR when he beat Zero and By.hero on HBR.
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Firebathero worries me as an Elo addict though, because despite his TvT Elo actually only being 2086, he plays like it's 2286 whenever he faces Flash.
2 points if Flash wins, -15ish points if Flash loses.
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Baezzi/Jon747 has already uploaded the first two games on youtube if anyone cares.
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On January 01 2010 21:54 FireGuyX wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2010 21:51 MountainDewJunkie wrote:On January 01 2010 21:49 ghosthunter wrote:On January 01 2010 21:47 MountainDewJunkie wrote:On January 01 2010 21:46 Xiphos wrote:On January 01 2010 21:44 ghosthunter wrote:On January 01 2010 21:43 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Flash versus Movie finals would be great. Movie is a creative and interesting player and Flash's TvP is shaky enough that Movie might actually have a chance. Movie's performance against Kwanro yesterday brings up the question of how he's pretty erratic. I believe the term is "Is Movie playing or is Rock playing?" Hopefully Movie will play throughout this thing, and we'll see some good games. I'm pretty sure you meant Light instead of Movie. lol That was the game, yes, but I think he's talking about that JD vs Movie game where movie just got rolled. Because Movie and Kwanro have only played once, and that was in November. Did he get rolled by M18M in the recent CJ Entus vs Samsung match? I was the post for that one, maybe that's what I'm remembering. Oh, yeah yeah that was the most recent game. Even if Movie plays non- Rocklike, Shine has a great shot at the finals. Movie's PvZ is better than Stork's, he is not to be underestimated. He is even capable of winning on HBR when he beat Zero and By.hero.
I don't underestimate Movie. Shine is more aggressive than Zero in PvZ so it should be interesting to see how that turns out vs the absurdly aggressive Movie.
On a side note, in progaming specifically, I don't see why people say HBR is Z>P imba. On iccup it might be, I don't know. But statistically, it really isn't as bad as everyone says. Statistically. I must be missing something.
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On January 01 2010 22:00 MountainDewJunkie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2010 21:54 FireGuyX wrote:On January 01 2010 21:51 MountainDewJunkie wrote:On January 01 2010 21:49 ghosthunter wrote:On January 01 2010 21:47 MountainDewJunkie wrote:On January 01 2010 21:46 Xiphos wrote:On January 01 2010 21:44 ghosthunter wrote:On January 01 2010 21:43 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Flash versus Movie finals would be great. Movie is a creative and interesting player and Flash's TvP is shaky enough that Movie might actually have a chance. Movie's performance against Kwanro yesterday brings up the question of how he's pretty erratic. I believe the term is "Is Movie playing or is Rock playing?" Hopefully Movie will play throughout this thing, and we'll see some good games. I'm pretty sure you meant Light instead of Movie. lol That was the game, yes, but I think he's talking about that JD vs Movie game where movie just got rolled. Because Movie and Kwanro have only played once, and that was in November. Did he get rolled by M18M in the recent CJ Entus vs Samsung match? I was the post for that one, maybe that's what I'm remembering. Oh, yeah yeah that was the most recent game. Even if Movie plays non- Rocklike, Shine has a great shot at the finals. Movie's PvZ is better than Stork's, he is not to be underestimated. He is even capable of winning on HBR when he beat Zero and By.hero. I don't underestimate Movie. Shine is more aggressive than Zero in PvZ so it should be interesting to see how that turns out vs the absurdly aggressive Movie. On a side note, in progaming specifically, I don't see why people say HBR is Z>P imba. On iccup it might be, I don't know. But statistically, it really isn't as bad as everyone says. Statistically. I must be missing something.
Zerglings can run by either through your choke or behind your ass. Pull probes, get your economy shat on while you protect against a rear runby.
Watch zerg macro up.
Protoss have to put cannons on the precise spot to either guess a hydra or muta attack. If it's a muta attack and you guess wrong there goes the economy in the main.
If it's hydra attack and you guess wrong, you get overwhelmed by Hydras.
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MrHoon
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On January 01 2010 22:13 FireGuyX wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2010 22:00 MountainDewJunkie wrote:On January 01 2010 21:54 FireGuyX wrote:On January 01 2010 21:51 MountainDewJunkie wrote:On January 01 2010 21:49 ghosthunter wrote:On January 01 2010 21:47 MountainDewJunkie wrote:On January 01 2010 21:46 Xiphos wrote:On January 01 2010 21:44 ghosthunter wrote:On January 01 2010 21:43 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Flash versus Movie finals would be great. Movie is a creative and interesting player and Flash's TvP is shaky enough that Movie might actually have a chance. Movie's performance against Kwanro yesterday brings up the question of how he's pretty erratic. I believe the term is "Is Movie playing or is Rock playing?" Hopefully Movie will play throughout this thing, and we'll see some good games. I'm pretty sure you meant Light instead of Movie. lol That was the game, yes, but I think he's talking about that JD vs Movie game where movie just got rolled. Because Movie and Kwanro have only played once, and that was in November. Did he get rolled by M18M in the recent CJ Entus vs Samsung match? I was the post for that one, maybe that's what I'm remembering. Oh, yeah yeah that was the most recent game. Even if Movie plays non- Rocklike, Shine has a great shot at the finals. Movie's PvZ is better than Stork's, he is not to be underestimated. He is even capable of winning on HBR when he beat Zero and By.hero. I don't underestimate Movie. Shine is more aggressive than Zero in PvZ so it should be interesting to see how that turns out vs the absurdly aggressive Movie. On a side note, in progaming specifically, I don't see why people say HBR is Z>P imba. On iccup it might be, I don't know. But statistically, it really isn't as bad as everyone says. Statistically. I must be missing something. Zerglings can run by either through your choke or behind your ass. Pull probes, get your economy shat on while you protect against a rear runby. Watch zerg macro up. Protoss have to put cannons on the precise spot to either guess a hydra or muta attack. If it's a muta attack and you guess wrong there goes the economy in the main. If it's hydra attack and you guess wrong, you get overwhelmed by Hydras.
Other than the backdoor lings, you just described a PvZ on every 2-player map...
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FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
On January 01 2010 21:00 Rainmaker5 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2010 20:51 flamewheel91 wrote:On January 01 2010 20:50 Fx_ wrote:On January 01 2010 20:27 fearus wrote: +1 +2. Good job, Calm. Good luck, Flash. Definitely worth pulling this third all-nighter in a row. Actually, by the end the tanks were +3.
C-c-c-c-c-c-c-combobreaker!
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the funniest part was flash celebratin at the end. i think it's the first time i have ever seen that. hes a genious and the next bonjwa! glhf flash is the OSL winner no matter what.
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On January 01 2010 21:54 FireGuyX wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2010 21:51 MountainDewJunkie wrote:On January 01 2010 21:49 ghosthunter wrote:On January 01 2010 21:47 MountainDewJunkie wrote:On January 01 2010 21:46 Xiphos wrote:On January 01 2010 21:44 ghosthunter wrote:On January 01 2010 21:43 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Flash versus Movie finals would be great. Movie is a creative and interesting player and Flash's TvP is shaky enough that Movie might actually have a chance. Movie's performance against Kwanro yesterday brings up the question of how he's pretty erratic. I believe the term is "Is Movie playing or is Rock playing?" Hopefully Movie will play throughout this thing, and we'll see some good games. I'm pretty sure you meant Light instead of Movie. lol That was the game, yes, but I think he's talking about that JD vs Movie game where movie just got rolled. Because Movie and Kwanro have only played once, and that was in November. Did he get rolled by M18M in the recent CJ Entus vs Samsung match? I was the post for that one, maybe that's what I'm remembering. Oh, yeah yeah that was the most recent game. Even if Movie plays non- Rocklike, Shine has a great shot at the finals. Movies PvZ is better than Storks. He is not to be underestimated, despite the first two games will be a zerg favored map. Movie is even capable of winning on HBR when he beat Zero and By.hero on HBR.
Yeah what awesome logic. Movie's PvZ > Stork's coz he beat Zero and Hero on HBR.
Stork on the other hand beat Zero and Jaedong on HBR. God, Movie's just SO much better...
In other news, just watched the series and it was quite fun but I can't shake the feeling that Flash dominated very hard throughout. Game 3 was the funnest ofc, but jesus. Flash's late game management was just too good. I salute Calm for being able to hang with Flash that long with all those beautiful SV snipes but just @_@ at the HALFMAP turtling LOL.
I don't even know how you can call it turtling at that point. Flash was literally guarding HALF a map. How do you do that? Vs drops, vs guards, vs ultra/ling/filer. Flash was crawling all over the place. It didn't look like much was happening but Calm sure would have tried more drops/guards if he thought he could get away with it. Flash was just way too active with his SVs. The mfer dominated the skies with nothing but irradiate. That is NASTY. And calm tried to drop twice and both were horrible abortions. The first time he managed to drop in the nat and do a lil skirmishing but the second time he just had to tuck tail and run. Flash dominated that series.
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On January 01 2010 23:49 StorkHwaiting wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2010 21:54 FireGuyX wrote:On January 01 2010 21:51 MountainDewJunkie wrote:On January 01 2010 21:49 ghosthunter wrote:On January 01 2010 21:47 MountainDewJunkie wrote:On January 01 2010 21:46 Xiphos wrote:On January 01 2010 21:44 ghosthunter wrote:On January 01 2010 21:43 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Flash versus Movie finals would be great. Movie is a creative and interesting player and Flash's TvP is shaky enough that Movie might actually have a chance. Movie's performance against Kwanro yesterday brings up the question of how he's pretty erratic. I believe the term is "Is Movie playing or is Rock playing?" Hopefully Movie will play throughout this thing, and we'll see some good games. I'm pretty sure you meant Light instead of Movie. lol That was the game, yes, but I think he's talking about that JD vs Movie game where movie just got rolled. Because Movie and Kwanro have only played once, and that was in November. Did he get rolled by M18M in the recent CJ Entus vs Samsung match? I was the post for that one, maybe that's what I'm remembering. Oh, yeah yeah that was the most recent game. Even if Movie plays non- Rocklike, Shine has a great shot at the finals. Movies PvZ is better than Storks. He is not to be underestimated, despite the first two games will be a zerg favored map. Movie is even capable of winning on HBR when he beat Zero and By.hero on HBR. Yeah what awesome logic. Movie's PvZ > Stork's coz he beat Zero and Hero on HBR. Stork on the other hand beat Zero and Jaedong on HBR. God, Movie's just SO much better... In other news, just watched the series and it was quite fun but I can't shake the feeling that Flash dominated very hard throughout. Game 3 was the funnest ofc, but jesus. Flash's late game management was just too good. I salute Calm for being able to hang with Flash that long with all those beautiful SV snipes but just @_@ at the HALFMAP turtling LOL. I don't even know how you can call it turtling at that point. Flash was literally guarding HALF a map. How do you do that? Vs drops, vs guards, vs ultra/ling/filer. Flash was crawling all over the place. It didn't look like much was happening but Calm sure would have tried more drops/guards if he thought he could get away with it. Flash was just way too active with his SVs. The mfer dominated the skies with nothing but irradiate. That is NASTY. And calm tried to drop twice and both were horrible abortions. The first time he managed to drop in the nat and do a lil skirmishing but the second time he just had to tuck tail and run. Flash dominated that series.
Movie's micro and game sense against zergs is much better than Stork's even you have to admit that. The way he destroyed Zero's mutalisk in the second game by teching to Archnons is something Stork hasn't done yet.
Of course Stork has a better record against zergs than Movie because he's played more games, but as of right now Movie's PvZ>Stork's PvZ.
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Wow, game 3 was sick. All those ultras but flash never broke. I hope movie can sneak past shine so that the finals weren't over in the round of 8.
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Thanks so much! You translators have been beyond amazing recently (not that you weren't beyond amazing before!)
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As a huge Flash fan I still feel kinda bad for calm. He played so well, I think ANY other terran in the world would've lost this series. Anyways, it's time for Flash to get another well deserved starleague title or two
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