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MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10344 Posts
December 18 2009 10:50 GMT
#1021
Movie does no damage, throws down a bunch of gateways.
[21:07] <Shock710> whats wrong with her face [20:50] <dAPhREAk> i beat it the day after it came out | <BLinD-RawR> esports is a giant vagina
APurpleCow
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1372 Posts
December 18 2009 10:50 GMT
#1022
On December 18 2009 19:47 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2009 19:43 APurpleCow wrote:
On December 18 2009 19:42 Chen wrote:
On December 18 2009 19:40 APurpleCow wrote:
On December 18 2009 19:36 darktreb wrote:
On December 18 2009 19:34 APurpleCow wrote:
On December 18 2009 19:33 darktreb wrote:
duuuuuuuude everybody saying Protoss is not ahead when they successfully KILL THE THIRD HATCHERY WITH JUST CANNONS in PvZ needs to actually play the game wow this is unbelievable

I mean are you serious I wish you could simulate that game except with Pure not being stupid and losing to that all-in and you'd see how Pure has like 2X the food of Calm in another 4 or 5 minutes


No fucking shit.

Obviously if a player fails an all-in, the other player will have a huge advantage 5 minutes later.


Ugh obviously my point is that if Calm doesn't do the all-in (which is not a legit counter if the Protoss is not stupid ... it was completely blockable by Pure ... how about you cut two Probes and delay your Archives) then in THAT case Pure is insurmountably ahead in another few minutes.


Cut two probes and do what? Put 3 cannons in each minline and lose to 2 hatch hydra, 2 hatch standard, or 2 hatch lurker drop?

2 at each is more than enough, 1 at each is sufficient if you micro well. the fact that he had NONE at EITHER base was just greedy and lose him the game


2 is still a loss against 2 hatch hydra, 2 hatch standard, and 2 hatch lurker drop. 1 would just put them on even ground.

You have no clue what you're talking about. It was like 35 probes against like 18. Also, there is no 2 hatch standard. Every 2 hatch is some kind of an allin.

Also, 2 cannons actually protects you against a lurker drop as well. 2 hatch hydra would have been too late at that point since he already had his lair going and Pure would have about 500 years to put some extra cannons in his front. He was so far ahead that even 5 extra cannons wouldn't hurt. You can't compete against a 2 base P with 2 hatcheries and 4 drones on your natural minerals unless the P skimps on defense.

Have you ever played the game or are you just a spectator?


2 hatch standard: Jaedong vs Movie @ Byzantium 3

2 cannons in minline does not protect against lurkers. They can still hit the nexus, and they can definitely hit gateways, robotics facilities, etc.

2 hatch hydra wouldn't have been too late if Calm had went for that from the start. I'm pretty sure Pure saw no Lair.

I'm a C+ Zerg and a C Protoss.

LOL? A build being used once does not make it standard.


Right, which is why it isn't called standard. It's called 2 hatch standard.
SilverskY
Profile Joined September 2008
Korea (South)3086 Posts
December 18 2009 10:50 GMT
#1023
Movie is losing a loooooot of sairs.
Graphics
Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
December 18 2009 10:50 GMT
#1024
what is this, the combat ex build?
[SECRET FONT] "Dragoon bunker"
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
December 18 2009 10:50 GMT
#1025
Movie stop losing all your sairs plz.
GANDHISAUCE
UGC4
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Peru532 Posts
December 18 2009 10:50 GMT
#1026
On December 18 2009 19:44 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
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On December 18 2009 19:39 UGC4 wrote:
i predict zero will do his gay strategy again. do nothing but defend > crackling > cow > gg


Lololol, you mad?

Yes, let's not defend like Pure. Defending is for chumps, who needs cannons :D


...i have no idea what ur talkin about
#1 Movie fan~ he's got so much skill it oozes out of his skin in the form of acne. ~family comes first~
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
December 18 2009 10:50 GMT
#1027
how can you go sair reaver and lose all sairs 10min into the game
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51565 Posts
December 18 2009 10:50 GMT
#1028
zero going quite overboard with the scourge....
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cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-18 10:51:43
December 18 2009 10:50 GMT
#1029
Movie loses corsairs for nothing. You got lucky zero's scourge targeted different corsairs just now but yet you stick them around.
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
StorkHwaiting
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3465 Posts
December 18 2009 10:50 GMT
#1030
rofl you stink Movie. Stork >>> u!
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
December 18 2009 10:50 GMT
#1031
No mutas for ZerO, so he's gone straight for 5 hatch hydra play. Tons of hydra baring down on Movie's nat but there are two reavers there so no engagement
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
December 18 2009 10:50 GMT
#1032
Movie 7-8 gate power army off 2base after the ineffective reaver/sair
"And then Earthlings discovered tools. Suddenly agreeing with friends could be a form of suicide or worse. But agreements went on, not for the sake of common sense, or decency, or self preservation, but for friendliness."
Chen
Profile Joined June 2009
United States6344 Posts
December 18 2009 10:51 GMT
#1033
wow Movie's in such a bad position, facing mass hydras with no range goons and alot of money spent on dead corsairs and their now useless +1 attack
NotJack
Profile Joined December 2009
United States737 Posts
December 18 2009 10:51 GMT
#1034
Movie looks mad; nice hydra d
Chen
Profile Joined June 2009
United States6344 Posts
December 18 2009 10:52 GMT
#1035
first templar MISERABLY FAILS, 2ND GETS AN EXPO WORTH OF DRONES. shuttle dies right after. HOLY SHIT THATS A FUCKING HUGE ARMY
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
December 18 2009 10:52 GMT
#1036
Storm drop, but he gets one fail storm off with no kills and one with a decent number, but he lost his dt, both ht's and the shuttle... so probably not worth it
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-18 10:52:29
December 18 2009 10:52 GMT
#1037
OMG, first HT drop, storm does no damage

Second drop takes ouch a bunch of drones. Shuttle is still alive amazingly!

oh not anymore.
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
December 18 2009 10:52 GMT
#1038
Exhilarating shuttle drop
NotJack
Profile Joined December 2009
United States737 Posts
December 18 2009 10:52 GMT
#1039
Those scourge were soooo close
cz
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3249 Posts
December 18 2009 10:52 GMT
#1040
On December 18 2009 19:50 APurpleCow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2009 19:47 Shikyo wrote:
On December 18 2009 19:43 APurpleCow wrote:
On December 18 2009 19:42 Chen wrote:
On December 18 2009 19:40 APurpleCow wrote:
On December 18 2009 19:36 darktreb wrote:
On December 18 2009 19:34 APurpleCow wrote:
On December 18 2009 19:33 darktreb wrote:
duuuuuuuude everybody saying Protoss is not ahead when they successfully KILL THE THIRD HATCHERY WITH JUST CANNONS in PvZ needs to actually play the game wow this is unbelievable

I mean are you serious I wish you could simulate that game except with Pure not being stupid and losing to that all-in and you'd see how Pure has like 2X the food of Calm in another 4 or 5 minutes


No fucking shit.

Obviously if a player fails an all-in, the other player will have a huge advantage 5 minutes later.


Ugh obviously my point is that if Calm doesn't do the all-in (which is not a legit counter if the Protoss is not stupid ... it was completely blockable by Pure ... how about you cut two Probes and delay your Archives) then in THAT case Pure is insurmountably ahead in another few minutes.


Cut two probes and do what? Put 3 cannons in each minline and lose to 2 hatch hydra, 2 hatch standard, or 2 hatch lurker drop?

2 at each is more than enough, 1 at each is sufficient if you micro well. the fact that he had NONE at EITHER base was just greedy and lose him the game


2 is still a loss against 2 hatch hydra, 2 hatch standard, and 2 hatch lurker drop. 1 would just put them on even ground.

You have no clue what you're talking about. It was like 35 probes against like 18. Also, there is no 2 hatch standard. Every 2 hatch is some kind of an allin.

Also, 2 cannons actually protects you against a lurker drop as well. 2 hatch hydra would have been too late at that point since he already had his lair going and Pure would have about 500 years to put some extra cannons in his front. He was so far ahead that even 5 extra cannons wouldn't hurt. You can't compete against a 2 base P with 2 hatcheries and 4 drones on your natural minerals unless the P skimps on defense.

Have you ever played the game or are you just a spectator?


2 hatch standard: Jaedong vs Movie @ Byzantium 3

2 cannons in minline does not protect against lurkers. They can still hit the nexus, and they can definitely hit gateways, robotics facilities, etc.

2 hatch hydra wouldn't have been too late if Calm had went for that from the start. I'm pretty sure Pure saw no Lair.

I'm a C+ Zerg and a C Protoss.

Show nested quote +
LOL? A build being used once does not make it standard.


Right, which is why it isn't called standard. It's called 2 hatch standard.


The thing is that calm was significantly behind in econ vs what he would be if he hadn't gone for his 3rd and lost it. ie that's the advantage the succesful cannon attack gave. thus protoss was ahead. Pure somehow decided to get an archives first (??) instead of cannons anywhere and lost. He played bad and blew his advantage.
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