Calm had 2 bases with about 4 drones at his natural's minerals, he was essentially on a minute late 2 hatch muta. If pure had 2 cannons on both mineral lines, he would have won. Not in 4 or 5 minutes, but more like 2. In fact, I believe that he already had almost twice the supply as the mutas popped.
Also, to the people saying Pure didn't have that many minerals. Have you ever watched how fast you accumulate minerals when you have 2 semi-saturated bases like Pure did? WTF, it takes only like 6 seconds for you to accumulate enough minerals for 4 cannons. Seriously, what's with you people.
You people are acting like Pure knew Calm was going 2 hatch muta. He didn't.
On December 18 2009 19:33 darktreb wrote: duuuuuuuude everybody saying Protoss is not ahead when they successfully KILL THE THIRD HATCHERY WITH JUST CANNONS in PvZ needs to actually play the game wow this is unbelievable
I mean are you serious I wish you could simulate that game except with Pure not being stupid and losing to that all-in and you'd see how Pure has like 2X the food of Calm in another 4 or 5 minutes
No fucking shit.
Obviously if a player fails an all-in, the other player will have a huge advantage 5 minutes later.
Ugh obviously my point is that if Calm doesn't do the all-in (which is not a legit counter if the Protoss is not stupid ... it was completely blockable by Pure ... how about you cut two Probes and delay your Archives) then in THAT case Pure is insurmountably ahead in another few minutes.
Cut two probes and do what? Put 3 cannons in each minline and lose to 2 hatch hydra or 2 hatch standard?
what the fuck is a 2 hatch standard against 2 base protoss
On December 18 2009 19:33 darktreb wrote: duuuuuuuude everybody saying Protoss is not ahead when they successfully KILL THE THIRD HATCHERY WITH JUST CANNONS in PvZ needs to actually play the game wow this is unbelievable
I mean are you serious I wish you could simulate that game except with Pure not being stupid and losing to that all-in and you'd see how Pure has like 2X the food of Calm in another 4 or 5 minutes
No fucking shit.
Obviously if a player fails an all-in, the other player will have a huge advantage 5 minutes later.
Ugh obviously my point is that if Calm doesn't do the all-in (which is not a legit counter if the Protoss is not stupid ... it was completely blockable by Pure ... how about you cut two Probes and delay your Archives) then in THAT case Pure is insurmountably ahead in another few minutes.
Cut two probes and do what? Put 3 cannons in each minline and lose to 2 hatch hydra, 2 hatch standard, or 2 hatch lurker drop?
2 at each is more than enough, 1 at each is sufficient if you micro well. the fact that he had NONE at EITHER base was just greedy and lose him the game 2 base Toss>2 base Zerg as long as toss can actually you know, get some units out so his econ advantage shows
On December 18 2009 19:33 darktreb wrote: duuuuuuuude everybody saying Protoss is not ahead when they successfully KILL THE THIRD HATCHERY WITH JUST CANNONS in PvZ needs to actually play the game wow this is unbelievable
I mean are you serious I wish you could simulate that game except with Pure not being stupid and losing to that all-in and you'd see how Pure has like 2X the food of Calm in another 4 or 5 minutes
No fucking shit.
Obviously if a player fails an all-in, the other player will have a huge advantage 5 minutes later.
Ugh obviously my point is that if Calm doesn't do the all-in (which is not a legit counter if the Protoss is not stupid ... it was completely blockable by Pure ... how about you cut two Probes and delay your Archives) then in THAT case Pure is insurmountably ahead in another few minutes.
Cut two probes and do what? Put 3 cannons in each minline and lose to 2 hatch hydra or 2 hatch standard?
what the fuck is a 2 hatch standard against 2 base protoss
Calm had 2 bases with about 4 drones at his natural's minerals, he was essentially on a minute late 2 hatch muta. If pure had 2 cannons on both mineral lines, he would have won. Not in 4 or 5 minutes, but more like 2. In fact, I believe that he already had almost twice the supply as the mutas popped.
Also, to the people saying Pure didn't have that many minerals. Have you ever watched how fast you accumulate minerals when you have 2 semi-saturated bases like Pure did? WTF, it takes only like 6 seconds for you to accumulate enough minerals for 4 cannons. Seriously, what's with you people.
You people are acting like Pure knew Calm was going 2 hatch muta. He didn't.
What can you do in that kind of a situation? You have a lair coming off 3 hatches and your third hatch gets killed while you were going for a spire in the first place. What kind of a genious do you need to be to figure it out?
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