EPT[OSL] Ever OSL - Ro8 Week 1 - Page 44
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FireGuyX
United States1712 Posts
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RobRoy2501
United States177 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On December 18 2009 19:22 APurpleCow wrote: ... Pure didn't have that great of an advantage. When you cannon rush, you sacrifice tech to hurt zerg's economy. It basically does the same thing as if Zerg went 2 hatch lair from the start (in which case Zerg sacrifices econ to get a tech advantage). An extremely delayed 2 hatch lair. The cannon rush really didn't cost much compared to how much he gained with it. Calm was completely allin with about 12 drones on minerals. If pure had made about 2-3 cannons per mineral line, he'd have almost certainly won. Even one per mineral line would have given him a decent chance to survive. He had none. | ||
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cz
United States3249 Posts
On December 18 2009 19:25 meeple wrote: I'm really surprised that losing his third really didn't affect any part of his gameplay that much. He seemed able to get out a decent number of mutas, and on the other hand Pure had wasted so many resources on those pylon/cannons that he didn't have enough in his main when the mutas came. Um, the cannon attack gave Pure an advantage, not a disadvantage. He just blew it because he's an awful player. | ||
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APurpleCow
United States1372 Posts
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Coffee
United Kingdom347 Posts
On December 18 2009 19:25 meeple wrote: I'm really surprised that losing his third really didn't affect any part of his gameplay that much. He seemed able to get out a decent number of mutas, and on the other hand Pure had wasted so many resources on those pylon/cannons that he didn't have enough in his main when the mutas came. if that were true he wouldnt have been able to put down the what? 5 cannons? he did, he was just an idiot and didnt think about what a zerg does off 2 hatch. it makes me mad lol | ||
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darktreb
United States3019 Posts
On December 18 2009 19:25 meeple wrote: I'm really surprised that losing his third really didn't affect any part of his gameplay that much. He seemed able to get out a decent number of mutas, and on the other hand Pure had wasted so many resources on those pylon/cannons that he didn't have enough in his main when the mutas came. If Pure had made two Cannons in each min line you would have noticed.... Calm had no Drones and was dead except for this one possibility, really indefensible by Pure. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On December 18 2009 19:25 RobRoy2501 wrote: What awesome advantage did Pure have? He spent 400 minerals to kill a 300 mineral expansion, and Calm even got 3 larva out of it. How can you say something like this? How about, he spent 400 minerals to kill a 9000 mineral and 5000 gas expansion. What about now? | ||
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VioleTAK
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FireGuyX
United States1712 Posts
On December 18 2009 19:26 cz wrote: Um, the cannon attack gave Pure an advantage, not a disadvantage. He just blew it because he's an awful player. Yet he made it to the round of 8. | ||
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MountainDewJunkie
United States10346 Posts
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Coffee
United Kingdom347 Posts
On December 18 2009 19:26 Shikyo wrote: How can you say something like this? How about, he spent 400 minerals to kill a 9000 mineral and 5000 gas expansion. What about now? to true, him killing the expansion = good! puts zerg in shit storm him not brains = bad | ||
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UGC4
Peru532 Posts
On December 18 2009 19:26 APurpleCow wrote: You guys act like 2 hatch muta is autolose for zerg, since protoss can just throw up cannons all over. uh it is when u lost your 3rd hatch, delayed lair/spire/den, and protoss fe. | ||
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StorkHwaiting
United States3465 Posts
On December 18 2009 19:25 Mastermind wrote: What the fuck did Pure think Zero would do with 2 fucking hatches. fuck that game was lame. For the last time. It's CLAM not Zero. Mystlord's saying zero too jesus christ -____- | ||
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APurpleCow
United States1372 Posts
An extremely delayed 2 hatch lair. The cannon rush really didn't cost much compared to how much he gained with it. Calm was completely allin with about 12 drones on minerals. If pure had made about 2-3 cannons per mineral line, he'd have almost certainly won. Even one per mineral line would have given him a decent chance to survive. He had none. Right, an extremely delayed 2 hatch lair against an extremely delayed Corsair. Same as a normal 2 hatch muta. Protoss doesn't just throw up 3 cannons in their min line every time they see 2 hatch lair. | ||
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cz
United States3249 Posts
On December 18 2009 19:27 MountainDewJunkie wrote: Guys, on a serious note, there's been like 2 good games total from Ro16 and thus far Ro8 combined. Flash vs Stork, and Zero vs Pure. The rest have been just awful (like Shine vs fantasy, Calm vs Pure, Jaedong vs go.go, and so on). This OSL kind of blows. If there isn't some kind of amazing Calm vs Flash semifinal, or a full 5-game set of Flash vs Stork finals, this is probably the worst OSL I've ever seen. I'd say Flash v Jaedong today was a great/amazing game, just for Flash's perfect play. | ||
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Chen
United States6344 Posts
On December 18 2009 19:25 RobRoy2501 wrote: What awesome advantage did Pure have? He spent 400 minerals to kill a 300 mineral expansion, and Calm even got 3 larva out of it. Arn't toss minerals worth relatively less than zerg minerals due to the fact that toss always has more probes and better econ on same # of bases? | ||
Womwomwom
5930 Posts
On December 18 2009 19:25 FireGuyX wrote: Pure's PvZ is very good, just not A level like Movie, Bisu, and Stork. The issue isn't Pure's PvZ or whatever skill. He's just an extremely careless player and, unlike guys like Stork, doesn't know how to hold his advantage. | ||
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Colbert
Canada148 Posts
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grahf
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