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On November 30 2009 21:17 WheelOfTime wrote:Typical fucking zerg laddering. All my games will now read C+ HBR NO fucking Z!!!
calm down, I only play kor maps on motw and I was away for most of this week so I couldnt play on Desti
ZvP is seriously easy at C levels, you just need to make a shit load of hydra off mass hatches and tech switch to mutas and fuck protoss up, if you dont win then go lurk/filer/ling into ultra/filer/ling, thank you ret so much for streaming
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ah well, ofc pvz is hard, it has always been
still, stork made a bad decision by morphing 2 archons. thats how pvz looks nowadays, fighting of a bunch of hydras. but you can't blame zergs for using a very very strong bo. and i don't really know if the bisu build is of any use nowadays. imho if you scout with ur probe well enough, you can totally skip the corsair tech in the early game. but i'm only c-/c so i dont know t.t
btw classic pvz where the zerg contained the toss with lurk/ling/scourge while taking 4-5 bases was so much sadder to watch
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Come on give Stork a break!
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On November 30 2009 21:08 Chen wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2009 21:01 MountainDewJunkie wrote:On November 30 2009 20:54 Chen wrote:On November 30 2009 20:47 Camlito wrote:On November 30 2009 20:47 Chen wrote:
I hate ZvP. so gay how it always ends like this, just 1a2a3a It ends in 1a2a3a if protoss wins aswell When Protoss wins it usually involves drops, harass, nice storms etc. when Zerg win? mass hydras and A-move. Don't act like Stork played a perfect game and was cheated out of a win by imbalance. He didn't do anything meaningful or productive in the game, didn't get off any harasses, didn't put up any pressure, he didn't do anything he needed to in order to win. Hence, he lost. It's complicated, I know, but, there you go. And what did Hyun do? Get third delayed by 2 minutes. Mass hydras anyways, attack, win. The fact that Zerg can so easily win a game and they do it so often unless the Toss plays great just pisses me off.
Everyone here is just shitting their pants that Stork is losing again. And because no one respects Hyun, rather than saying, "Hyun was better than Stork for just one game, but whatever," they freak right the fuck out with humorous rage.
"What? Better because of 1a2a3a? That's stupid rawrawr fuck, starcraft is broken!"
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I could be wrong, cause I sort of whatched the game with one eye, but I don't think Hyun made a 5th hatch. The way he played it imo was: Everything looks standart. Spire, Hydra den, evo, 4th hatch all standart timing, but at the time in wich he is supouse to put his 5th hatch and still be making drones he made a bunch of hydras. It's pretty much too late to start storm at that point. I mean u start it and morh ht to atchons and try to hold out.
I could be wrong though.
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On November 30 2009 21:20 Djin)ftw( wrote:
ah well, ofc pvz is hard, it has always been
still, stork made a bad decision by morphing 2 archons. thats how pvz looks nowadays, fighting of a bunch of hydras. but you can't blame zergs for using a very very strong bo. and i don't really know if the bisu build is of any use nowadays. imho if you scout with ur probe well enough, you can totally skip the corsair tech in the early game. but i'm only c-/c so i dont know t.t
btw classic pvz where the zerg contained the toss with lurk/ling/scourge while taking 4-5 bases was so much sadder to watch
Skipping stargate with an OL in your base and get raped by modern muta micro? No thanks.
Skipping first cosair when you already have a stargate and could score 1-2 OL kills AND scout with 150/100? No thanks.
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I personally think that for a Protoss to counter the modern day 3 Hatch Mutalisk - 5 Hatch Hydralisk is to go one base. Anyone else agree with me on this?
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On November 30 2009 21:28 Xiphos wrote:
I personally think that for a Protoss to counter the modern day 3 Hatch Mutalisk - 5 Hatch Hydralisk is to go one base. Anyone else agree with me on this?
certainly on pro level, all those new zergs who have come out of nowhere (e.g. Hyuk) are uncomfortable against one base builds.
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On November 30 2009 21:11 WheelOfTime wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2009 21:06 StorkHwaiting wrote:On November 30 2009 21:01 usopsama wrote:On November 30 2009 20:56 StorkHwaiting wrote:On November 30 2009 20:55 usopsama wrote:On November 30 2009 20:46 DarthThienAn wrote:
stork is so fail recently =[. </3 What do you mean "recently"? Stork has been streaking until last night 2 nights ago! Do you actually believe players can win 100% of the times? Rofl. Are you suggesting his 4-loss streak outweighs his 10-win streak? Jeez, people are really spoiled nowadays, aren't they? Stop saying stupid things like 100% of the time. Nobody care about stats. Look at the manner in which he lost. And let's look at the "manner" in which Hyun used to beat Stork. It was just a timing attack. Hell, even Flash lost to timing attacks plenty of times (Hello? Forgg used timing attacks against Flash and it worked all three times?). Then again, maybe that's too complex for you to understand. A timing attack that he had ample time to scout with FOUR corsair and two DTs roaming the map and FOUR gateways up. There is absolutely zero reason Stork shouldn't have had enough zeal/cannons to hold that rush off. Much less the 4 templar he made into archons so they could kill a grand total of 2 hydras. Do you not fucking get it? The hydras were there not because hyun scouted and planned on it, but rather they're there because of the fucking imba ZVP BO that hyun has copied to near perfection. If he saw HTs/More cannons he would have just pulled back, and in the mean time take a 4th and play that sunk/lurk/spore def bullshit when Stork can finally mass up a big enough ball. Then it's hive tech and cows/cracklings 1a2a3a4a5a6a7a8a, and short of 40 archons/reavers which Stork would not have, you can't stop that shit.
Take your nerd rage elsewhere. Nobody cares about your iccup tears and cursing like that makes you look ridiculous.
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On November 30 2009 21:24 WheelOfTime wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2009 21:20 Djin)ftw( wrote:
ah well, ofc pvz is hard, it has always been
still, stork made a bad decision by morphing 2 archons. thats how pvz looks nowadays, fighting of a bunch of hydras. but you can't blame zergs for using a very very strong bo. and i don't really know if the bisu build is of any use nowadays. imho if you scout with ur probe well enough, you can totally skip the corsair tech in the early game. but i'm only c-/c so i dont know t.t
btw classic pvz where the zerg contained the toss with lurk/ling/scourge while taking 4-5 bases was so much sadder to watch Skipping stargate with an OL in your base and get raped by modern muta micro? No thanks. Skipping first cosair when you already have a stargate and could score 1-2 OL kills AND scout with 150/100? No thanks.
i don't build a stargate obv t.t at least not in the early game
against muta i make a DA with maelstorm
but as i said, only c-/c lvl here.
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Hey FBH won a game. neat. Poor khan :/
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ZvP is fine below pro level, PvT rank inflation on iccup has tossers complaining about imbalance when they're simply outclassed.
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China3334 Posts
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Why is Sea crying? 
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He's happy, he's always struggled against Stork. Maybe kind of a relief?
I guess :S?
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Wow... I've never seen him cry. I guess the win meant alot to him
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Finland1714 Posts
excellent Sea!!!
Stork going 0-2 yet again, such a rollercoaster ;<
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Hmmm Google translate tells me "Of the deceased will be sorely missed" appears several times in that crying Sea story and in the comments. Did someone close to him die?
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Omg Sea
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HYUN!?!?!?! WTF!?!?! STORK OMG! Hyun is on my anti team - gay shit
But seriously Sea was great.
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