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On October 28 2009 14:20 disciple wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2009 14:16 fanatacist wrote:On October 28 2009 14:01 oBlade wrote:On October 28 2009 13:54 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote:
Can people stop making fucking OPs if they don't plan on updating them? It's really getting annoying because it's happening a lot more often.
This is very, very important. Please stop making LR threads if you aren't willing to edit match results as they happen. This is even more important to point out in this era of standardized SPL thread templates. It's not enough to just list the matches in the OP. We can read that in the calendar. I also see a lot of "predictions" that are just one line of cursory, unjustified bullshit like "I think SKT 3-0 but if it gets to ace then 2-3." The same thing happens to the recommended games, but there it is a little more excusable. So yeah... if you make an OP, please be prepared to update the game results, edit in stream options, and provide thoughtful, elegant predictions (or just compile stats so we don't have to find them ourselves). Otherwise please leave the OP to someone else! Normally I would agree with you but the OP clearly put in a lot of effort into the post, with good graphics and pre-game interviews and etc. The amount of effort he did is a lot greater than the effort it would take you to browse the thread to find the results, which is almost the point of LR threads (you find out what happened, how it happened, etc.). When OP's effort > your effort, in my opinion it's okay to let him fuck up once in a while and not update the results immediately. No , the man is right. Its not the first time it happens with me, that I leave the OPs unattended. Its not really the reason thats important, nobody cares why a service isnt provided, the fact is that it isnt provided. Still the worst case scenario was to get here exactly one hour later with all the games already finished. If Canata was playing a TvT in the first set I was going to be here exactly for the second game, which would've been ok  I will stop making OPs, I cant risk this to happen again
That'd be a shame disciple. I, for one, appreciate the work you put into them.
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Funny statistic: 29% of Bisu's PvP losses are to Stork.
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On October 28 2009 14:34 Jyvblamo wrote:
Funny statistic: 29% of Bisu's PvP losses are to Stork.
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL your possibly my favorite poster for this thread.
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On October 28 2009 14:32 Nitan wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2009 14:29 Chen wrote:On October 28 2009 14:27 disciple wrote:
Thanks for defending me guys, but I know when I did wrong. I will stop making OPs for now myself. If someone needs gfx I will be here to help Don't let ONE guy who doesn't know what hes getting put you down. We all love your OPs and 99% of us couldn't care less that the results sections is somewhat delayed, if you really care you are reading or watching. While I don't mind results being a hour late or whatever, if you make the topic you really should stick around to edit in streams and such.
Yo. No one is arguing against that. But he missed it because of DAYLIGHT SAVINGS TIME, which will fuck you at any part of the day (night, morning, daytime) regardless of where you are. It was an innocent mistake, and it's not like a doctor came to the hospital 1 hour late and his patients died, it's a website where people put in effort for FREE to provide you with content. Now people are bitching that the updates which they can find themselves with a little effort are not presented to them on a silver platter because the person who doesn't get paid but still puts in work to help us out and create great OPs for us was late by 1 HOUR due to once again I reiterate DAYLIGHT SAVINGS TIME. Get a reality check people.
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Disciple this is why you let me do the OP and i take credit for it :D.
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i agree with the disciple supporters
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On October 28 2009 14:35 fanatacist wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2009 14:32 Nitan wrote:On October 28 2009 14:29 Chen wrote:On October 28 2009 14:27 disciple wrote:
Thanks for defending me guys, but I know when I did wrong. I will stop making OPs for now myself. If someone needs gfx I will be here to help Don't let ONE guy who doesn't know what hes getting put you down. We all love your OPs and 99% of us couldn't care less that the results sections is somewhat delayed, if you really care you are reading or watching. While I don't mind results being a hour late or whatever, if you make the topic you really should stick around to edit in streams and such. Yo. No one is arguing against that. But he missed it because of DAYLIGHT SAVINGS TIME, which will fuck you at any part of the day (night, morning, daytime) regardless of where you are. It was an innocent mistake, and it's not like a doctor came to the hospital 1 hour late and his patients died, it's a website where people put in effort for FREE to provide you with content. Now people are bitching that the updates which they can find themselves with a little effort are not presented to them on a silver platter because the person who doesn't get paid but still puts in work to help us out and create great OPs for us was late by 1 HOUR due to once again I reiterate DAYLIGHT SAVINGS TIME. Get a reality check people.
It doesnt really matter man. This is the 4th LR thread that I coudnt update for some reason. Stuff indeed happens but objectively as I said nobody gives a shit about that, ppl will just make the conclusion that disciple = cant make the job done
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On October 28 2009 14:33 Harem wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2009 14:29 Jadyks wrote:
Don't mind Harem, just a butthurt Oz fan. Nice ad hominem bro. Completely relevant to discussion and I hope to hear more of your input in the future.
This discussion is irrelevant because you do not pay for services and as such are yuo at the whim and will of the people who volunteer their time for this community.
Please back out of this thread and apply cooling cream to your anus, I understand Oz got ripped tonight so I understand your cranky demeanor.
(I'm gonna get temp banned again I feel it.)
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Yeah seriously, fuck anyone who complains about the results being late. Like, seriously. If they cant wait AN HOUR for the results for something they themselves did not see then they are the one with an issue, not you.
I really appreciate these threads. The graphics and stuff are AWESOME and you make very solid threads. Fuck that haters.
That aside, both the matchups were really disappointing . Good for my liquibet, bad for my heart.
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On October 28 2009 14:35 fanatacist wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2009 14:32 Nitan wrote:On October 28 2009 14:29 Chen wrote:On October 28 2009 14:27 disciple wrote:
Thanks for defending me guys, but I know when I did wrong. I will stop making OPs for now myself. If someone needs gfx I will be here to help Don't let ONE guy who doesn't know what hes getting put you down. We all love your OPs and 99% of us couldn't care less that the results sections is somewhat delayed, if you really care you are reading or watching. While I don't mind results being a hour late or whatever, if you make the topic you really should stick around to edit in streams and such. Yo. No one is arguing against that. But he missed it because of DAYLIGHT SAVINGS TIME, which will fuck you at any part of the day (night, morning, daytime) regardless of where you are. It was an innocent mistake, and it's not like a doctor came to the hospital 1 hour late and his patients died, it's a website where people put in effort for FREE to provide you with content. Now people are bitching that the updates which they can find themselves with a little effort are not presented to them on a silver platter because the person who doesn't get paid but still puts in work to help us out and create great OPs for us was late by 1 HOUR due to once again I reiterate DAYLIGHT SAVINGS TIME. Get a reality check people.
Why are you so angry? 3 people complaining (including me) is not exactly some sort of crushing wave of bitching.
EDIT: Are you making us some sort of monolithic entity of whine? Does that make it easier for you to direct your hate?
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I hate the fact that SKT won, but it feels good that Hyuk silenced whoever called me pathetic for saying Hyuk would stand a chance against Effort. 
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On October 28 2009 14:38 disciple wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2009 14:35 fanatacist wrote:On October 28 2009 14:32 Nitan wrote:On October 28 2009 14:29 Chen wrote:On October 28 2009 14:27 disciple wrote:
Thanks for defending me guys, but I know when I did wrong. I will stop making OPs for now myself. If someone needs gfx I will be here to help Don't let ONE guy who doesn't know what hes getting put you down. We all love your OPs and 99% of us couldn't care less that the results sections is somewhat delayed, if you really care you are reading or watching. While I don't mind results being a hour late or whatever, if you make the topic you really should stick around to edit in streams and such. Yo. No one is arguing against that. But he missed it because of DAYLIGHT SAVINGS TIME, which will fuck you at any part of the day (night, morning, daytime) regardless of where you are. It was an innocent mistake, and it's not like a doctor came to the hospital 1 hour late and his patients died, it's a website where people put in effort for FREE to provide you with content. Now people are bitching that the updates which they can find themselves with a little effort are not presented to them on a silver platter because the person who doesn't get paid but still puts in work to help us out and create great OPs for us was late by 1 HOUR due to once again I reiterate DAYLIGHT SAVINGS TIME. Get a reality check people. It doesnt really matter man. This is the 4th LR thread that I coudnt update for some reason. Stuff indeed happens but objectively as I said nobody gives a shit about that, ppl will just make the conclusion that disciple = cant make the job done
4 out of how many? Whatever the statistic is, it'd be almost impossible for you to be on top of every update ever regardless. Sometimes you CAN'T know that something will come up, and that's a fact of life. People who can't accept that are unrealistic and disrespectful in cases like these. If people make that conclusion and don't like what they get. they can always do what others do and get stream on their own, don't visit the threads, etc. and stop being bitches about it while everyone else enjoys the content you provide. No need to penalize us for the shortcomings of others and human error on your part while providing a service that you DON'T get paid or nearly enough credit for.
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On October 28 2009 14:42 Nitan wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2009 14:35 fanatacist wrote:On October 28 2009 14:32 Nitan wrote:On October 28 2009 14:29 Chen wrote:On October 28 2009 14:27 disciple wrote:
Thanks for defending me guys, but I know when I did wrong. I will stop making OPs for now myself. If someone needs gfx I will be here to help Don't let ONE guy who doesn't know what hes getting put you down. We all love your OPs and 99% of us couldn't care less that the results sections is somewhat delayed, if you really care you are reading or watching. While I don't mind results being a hour late or whatever, if you make the topic you really should stick around to edit in streams and such. Yo. No one is arguing against that. But he missed it because of DAYLIGHT SAVINGS TIME, which will fuck you at any part of the day (night, morning, daytime) regardless of where you are. It was an innocent mistake, and it's not like a doctor came to the hospital 1 hour late and his patients died, it's a website where people put in effort for FREE to provide you with content. Now people are bitching that the updates which they can find themselves with a little effort are not presented to them on a silver platter because the person who doesn't get paid but still puts in work to help us out and create great OPs for us was late by 1 HOUR due to once again I reiterate DAYLIGHT SAVINGS TIME. Get a reality check people. Why are you so angry? 3 people complaining (including me) is not exactly some sort of crushing wave of bitching. EDIT: Are you making us some sort of monolithic entity of whine? Does that make it easier for you to direct your hate?
We're just all worried because he said he'd stop making these threads because of his "failure".
If it means flaming the fck out of everyone who whined to keep disciple posting, consider my torch lit.
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On October 28 2009 14:42 Nitan wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2009 14:35 fanatacist wrote:On October 28 2009 14:32 Nitan wrote:On October 28 2009 14:29 Chen wrote:On October 28 2009 14:27 disciple wrote:
Thanks for defending me guys, but I know when I did wrong. I will stop making OPs for now myself. If someone needs gfx I will be here to help Don't let ONE guy who doesn't know what hes getting put you down. We all love your OPs and 99% of us couldn't care less that the results sections is somewhat delayed, if you really care you are reading or watching. While I don't mind results being a hour late or whatever, if you make the topic you really should stick around to edit in streams and such. Yo. No one is arguing against that. But he missed it because of DAYLIGHT SAVINGS TIME, which will fuck you at any part of the day (night, morning, daytime) regardless of where you are. It was an innocent mistake, and it's not like a doctor came to the hospital 1 hour late and his patients died, it's a website where people put in effort for FREE to provide you with content. Now people are bitching that the updates which they can find themselves with a little effort are not presented to them on a silver platter because the person who doesn't get paid but still puts in work to help us out and create great OPs for us was late by 1 HOUR due to once again I reiterate DAYLIGHT SAVINGS TIME. Get a reality check people. Why are you so angry? 3 people complained (including me) is not exactly some sort of crushing wave of bitching.
For every person who had the nerve to post something of that nature there are probably 10 more who feel just as righteous in complaining about a free feature being updated 1 hour late by a person, who like most of us, has a life and makes mistakes sometimes. You're basically going to a charity and telling them that they are assholes because they had to give out food 1 hour later, except this is not nearly as serious or influential on anyone's life.
EDIT: I don't need to dramatize your behavior to have a reason to "hate" you; your lack of respect and perspective on the matter is sufficient. I can't tolerate a person getting bashed after
1. Making a common mistake
2. about something that isn't that important
3. that is easily bypassed by a little effort invested by those who are complaining
4. and doing a free service to the community.
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On October 28 2009 14:44 lone_hydra wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2009 14:42 Nitan wrote:On October 28 2009 14:35 fanatacist wrote:On October 28 2009 14:32 Nitan wrote:On October 28 2009 14:29 Chen wrote:On October 28 2009 14:27 disciple wrote:
Thanks for defending me guys, but I know when I did wrong. I will stop making OPs for now myself. If someone needs gfx I will be here to help Don't let ONE guy who doesn't know what hes getting put you down. We all love your OPs and 99% of us couldn't care less that the results sections is somewhat delayed, if you really care you are reading or watching. While I don't mind results being a hour late or whatever, if you make the topic you really should stick around to edit in streams and such. Yo. No one is arguing against that. But he missed it because of DAYLIGHT SAVINGS TIME, which will fuck you at any part of the day (night, morning, daytime) regardless of where you are. It was an innocent mistake, and it's not like a doctor came to the hospital 1 hour late and his patients died, it's a website where people put in effort for FREE to provide you with content. Now people are bitching that the updates which they can find themselves with a little effort are not presented to them on a silver platter because the person who doesn't get paid but still puts in work to help us out and create great OPs for us was late by 1 HOUR due to once again I reiterate DAYLIGHT SAVINGS TIME. Get a reality check people. Why are you so angry? 3 people complaining (including me) is not exactly some sort of crushing wave of bitching. EDIT: Are you making us some sort of monolithic entity of whine? Does that make it easier for you to direct your hate? We're just all worried because he said he'd stop making these threads because of his "failure". If it means flaming the fck out of everyone who whined to keep disciple posting, consider my torch lit.
lol no need of drama here. As Plexa said I will just get banned next time something like this happens again. But again I dont want it to be like , some happy normal guy having the simple need of being provided with a service, which is actually not a big deal to be took care of, to click one day on LR thread, to see that I was the one who made the OP and to say to himself "oh god, here we go again, he wont update it" .
I want to create an image to myself as a responsible guy, who is easy to work with, cause he can make the job done. Thats why when stuff like that happens I look stupid to say the least
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On October 28 2009 14:24 fanatacist wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2009 14:20 disciple wrote:On October 28 2009 14:16 fanatacist wrote:On October 28 2009 14:01 oBlade wrote:On October 28 2009 13:54 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote:
Can people stop making fucking OPs if they don't plan on updating them? It's really getting annoying because it's happening a lot more often.
This is very, very important. Please stop making LR threads if you aren't willing to edit match results as they happen. This is even more important to point out in this era of standardized SPL thread templates. It's not enough to just list the matches in the OP. We can read that in the calendar. I also see a lot of "predictions" that are just one line of cursory, unjustified bullshit like "I think SKT 3-0 but if it gets to ace then 2-3." The same thing happens to the recommended games, but there it is a little more excusable. So yeah... if you make an OP, please be prepared to update the game results, edit in stream options, and provide thoughtful, elegant predictions (or just compile stats so we don't have to find them ourselves). Otherwise please leave the OP to someone else! Normally I would agree with you but the OP clearly put in a lot of effort into the post, with good graphics and pre-game interviews and etc. The amount of effort he did is a lot greater than the effort it would take you to browse the thread to find the results, which is almost the point of LR threads (you find out what happened, how it happened, etc.). When OP's effort > your effort, in my opinion it's okay to let him fuck up once in a while and not update the results immediately. No , the man is right. Its not the first time it happens with me, that I leave the OPs unattended. Its not really the reason thats important, [nobody cares why a service isnt provided, the fact is that it isnt provided. Still the worst case scenario was to get here exactly one hour later with all the games already finished. If Canata was playing a TvT in the first set I was going to be here exactly for the second game, which would be ok Nobody cares why a service isn't provided because people are assholes. It's not like you get paid to do this, and it's not like you'll be fired for being human and making a mistake with daylight savings time (which millions of people do in one way or another every time). People need to appreciate the effort you put in, need to understand that sometimes SHIT JUST HAPPENS and you can't tend to the thread, and that it's not too much effort to open the entire thread and search for "-" and click enter a few times to get to the results. EDIT: Don't be stupid, don't stop making quality OPs because you missed an hour due to daylight savings time (happens what, twice a year potentially?).
I wasn't so much criticizing one person in general - I understand Disciple makes sick OPs, and I respect that. I was more venting out of frustration that it's happened a lot lately, and some of them were shitty OPs. Honestly this is a perfectly acceptable reason here, I did not know that this had happened. Another side of this frustration comes from when I got a PM from mod staff telling me finish them or don't make them because I missed the end of one LR thread.
Disciple - please don't take this personally, I was ranting at a general trend here, your thread happened to be the unfortunate venue. I really enjoy your OPs actually. Please keep making them. Honest mistakes happen, DST fucks with everyone.
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On October 28 2009 14:44 lone_hydra wrote:
We're all worried because he said he'd stop making these threads because of his "failure".
If it means flaming the fck out of everyone who whined to keep disciple posting, consider my torch lit.
So he's a drama queen because he quit before I even offered my extremely mild criticism. That's 2 people who toppled his house of cards. One of whom had a quite angry post but which was one run on sentence, the other of which was really tame. In fact, I would say oBlade's post was very polite.
Basically disciple, I don't know if daylight savings time is some sort of emotional time for you but chill out dude.
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On October 28 2009 14:49 disciple wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2009 14:44 lone_hydra wrote:On October 28 2009 14:42 Nitan wrote:On October 28 2009 14:35 fanatacist wrote:On October 28 2009 14:32 Nitan wrote:On October 28 2009 14:29 Chen wrote:On October 28 2009 14:27 disciple wrote:
Thanks for defending me guys, but I know when I did wrong. I will stop making OPs for now myself. If someone needs gfx I will be here to help Don't let ONE guy who doesn't know what hes getting put you down. We all love your OPs and 99% of us couldn't care less that the results sections is somewhat delayed, if you really care you are reading or watching. While I don't mind results being a hour late or whatever, if you make the topic you really should stick around to edit in streams and such. Yo. No one is arguing against that. But he missed it because of DAYLIGHT SAVINGS TIME, which will fuck you at any part of the day (night, morning, daytime) regardless of where you are. It was an innocent mistake, and it's not like a doctor came to the hospital 1 hour late and his patients died, it's a website where people put in effort for FREE to provide you with content. Now people are bitching that the updates which they can find themselves with a little effort are not presented to them on a silver platter because the person who doesn't get paid but still puts in work to help us out and create great OPs for us was late by 1 HOUR due to once again I reiterate DAYLIGHT SAVINGS TIME. Get a reality check people. Why are you so angry? 3 people complaining (including me) is not exactly some sort of crushing wave of bitching. EDIT: Are you making us some sort of monolithic entity of whine? Does that make it easier for you to direct your hate? We're just all worried because he said he'd stop making these threads because of his "failure". If it means flaming the fck out of everyone who whined to keep disciple posting, consider my torch lit. lol no need of drama here. As Plexa said I will just get banned next time something like this happens again. But again I dont want it to be like , some happy normal guy having the simple need of being provided with a service, which is actually not a big deal to be took care of, to click one day on LR thread, to see that I was the one who made the OP and to say to himself "oh god, here we go again, he wont update it"
Anyone who feels that way can make their own LR thread that will most likely have inferior content and presentation, and thus inferior attendance, and will be proven wrong when you update the thread as you generally do (and on the off-chance that you make a mistake then the thread's existence is justified).
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On October 28 2009 14:50 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2009 14:24 fanatacist wrote:On October 28 2009 14:20 disciple wrote:On October 28 2009 14:16 fanatacist wrote:On October 28 2009 14:01 oBlade wrote:On October 28 2009 13:54 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote:
Can people stop making fucking OPs if they don't plan on updating them? It's really getting annoying because it's happening a lot more often.
This is very, very important. Please stop making LR threads if you aren't willing to edit match results as they happen. This is even more important to point out in this era of standardized SPL thread templates. It's not enough to just list the matches in the OP. We can read that in the calendar. I also see a lot of "predictions" that are just one line of cursory, unjustified bullshit like "I think SKT 3-0 but if it gets to ace then 2-3." The same thing happens to the recommended games, but there it is a little more excusable. So yeah... if you make an OP, please be prepared to update the game results, edit in stream options, and provide thoughtful, elegant predictions (or just compile stats so we don't have to find them ourselves). Otherwise please leave the OP to someone else! Normally I would agree with you but the OP clearly put in a lot of effort into the post, with good graphics and pre-game interviews and etc. The amount of effort he did is a lot greater than the effort it would take you to browse the thread to find the results, which is almost the point of LR threads (you find out what happened, how it happened, etc.). When OP's effort > your effort, in my opinion it's okay to let him fuck up once in a while and not update the results immediately. No , the man is right. Its not the first time it happens with me, that I leave the OPs unattended. Its not really the reason thats important, [nobody cares why a service isnt provided, the fact is that it isnt provided. Still the worst case scenario was to get here exactly one hour later with all the games already finished. If Canata was playing a TvT in the first set I was going to be here exactly for the second game, which would be ok Nobody cares why a service isn't provided because people are assholes. It's not like you get paid to do this, and it's not like you'll be fired for being human and making a mistake with daylight savings time (which millions of people do in one way or another every time). People need to appreciate the effort you put in, need to understand that sometimes SHIT JUST HAPPENS and you can't tend to the thread, and that it's not too much effort to open the entire thread and search for "-" and click enter a few times to get to the results. EDIT: Don't be stupid, don't stop making quality OPs because you missed an hour due to daylight savings time (happens what, twice a year potentially?). I wasn't so much criticizing one person in general - I understand Disciple makes sick OPs, and I respect that. I was more venting out of frustration that it's happened a lot lately, and some of them were shitty OPs. Honestly this is a perfectly acceptable reason here, I did not know that this had happened. Another side of this frustration comes from when I got a PM from mod staff telling me finish them or don't make them because I missed the end of one LR thread. Disciple - please don't take this personally, I was ranting at a general trend here, your thread happened to be the unfortunate venue. I really enjoy your OPs actually. Please keep making them. Honest mistakes happen, DST fucks with everyone.
I know that this was before you knew the full situation and you haven't tried to persistently argue the point. I have no problem with you, and I know that you weren't targeting anyone. Unfortunately your post brought out the assholes in the thread, but that's not your fault.
PS - Happy birthday!
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