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Kreedit
Profile Joined March 2009
Sweden373 Posts
October 14 2009 12:23 GMT
#701
Maybe Bisu should have tried to go pure sair reaver instead?

Would it have worked better?
Urth
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1254 Posts
October 14 2009 12:23 GMT
#702
On October 14 2009 21:20 GTR wrote:
[image loading]

rofl

hahaha
BY.HERO FIGHTING!!!!
funKy_KroK
Profile Joined June 2009
France101 Posts
October 14 2009 12:23 GMT
#703
no seriously PvZ is just impossible right now, time for a new revolution with DA
4Servy
Profile Joined August 2008
Netherlands1542 Posts
October 14 2009 12:23 GMT
#704
DA oh wait thats forbidden territory.
Kazius
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Israel1456 Posts
October 14 2009 12:23 GMT
#705
On October 14 2009 21:20 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2009 21:19 Kreedit wrote:
God lord this OSL will suck.... man UGH crap shit meh

Frigging ZvP these days.

Oh well atleast Pusan is in.


OSLs with Bisu suck more, because you know he will just fail anyway.

MSL is Bisu's domain.

Great for the OSL, because everyone prefers Jaedong vs. Shine to Jaedong vs. Bisu.
Friendship is like peeing yourself. Anyone can see it, but only you get that warm feeling.
Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
October 14 2009 12:23 GMT
#706
On October 14 2009 21:21 snapcrackle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2009 21:20 Gryffindor_us wrote:
LOL it's a shame that Bisu isn't in but I'm kind of glad that PvZ is going to evolve into DA use. It's about damn time.

??? why you say that.... this game was not so different than many other pvz's... and still not a lot of DA use


the point is that DA seems almost necessary nowadays to counter those mutas

i suppose 1 or 2 archons should/would work as well though, or corsairs
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 14 2009 12:23 GMT
#707
On October 14 2009 20:10 Shikyo wrote:
I'd like to say something about Bisu's consistency against mediocre zergs in the early stages of the OSL.

Looool!!!
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
ondik
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Czech Republic2908 Posts
October 14 2009 12:23 GMT
#708
Sad day for OSL. Well done Shine, cheesing your way to ro16, destroying potentially great matches just to go 0-3 next round.
Bisu. The one and only. // Save the cheerreaver, save the world (of SC2)
4Servy
Profile Joined August 2008
Netherlands1542 Posts
October 14 2009 12:23 GMT
#709
bisu would have been stomped all the place by jeadong anyway not anything exciting to watch.
funKy_KroK
Profile Joined June 2009
France101 Posts
October 14 2009 12:24 GMT
#710
pretty sure it will be like last season and no toss in the Ro8
Beamo
Profile Joined March 2003
France1279 Posts
October 14 2009 12:24 GMT
#711
On October 14 2009 21:21 snapcrackle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2009 21:20 Gryffindor_us wrote:
LOL it's a shame that Bisu isn't in but I'm kind of glad that PvZ is going to evolve into DA use. It's about damn time.

??? why you say that.... this game was not so different than many other pvz's... and still not a lot of DA use


DA using Maelstorm to stop Mutas from snipping HT looks like the only current solution
barbahaba0
Profile Joined January 2009
Israel226 Posts
October 14 2009 12:24 GMT
#712
hmmm time to hallucinate some templars
and let the zerg suicide on killing them while keeping the real one at bay
could work 1once or twice
game over dude .... game over!!!!
snapcrackle
Profile Joined December 2008
United States568 Posts
October 14 2009 12:24 GMT
#713
On October 14 2009 21:23 Frits wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2009 21:21 snapcrackle wrote:
On October 14 2009 21:20 Gryffindor_us wrote:
LOL it's a shame that Bisu isn't in but I'm kind of glad that PvZ is going to evolve into DA use. It's about damn time.

??? why you say that.... this game was not so different than many other pvz's... and still not a lot of DA use


the point is that DA seems almost necessary nowadays to counter those mutas

i suppose 1 or 2 archons should/would work as well though, or corsairs

yes 1-2 archons work well as do corsairs... DA can be used but its not necessary nor does it need to evolve
infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
October 14 2009 12:25 GMT
#714
On October 14 2009 21:22 snapcrackle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2009 21:21 sauc wrote:
He had no templars because shine just ran his mutas in his entire goon army and killed them, pvz is all about those templars now and they are an absolute joke to kill... once they are down even if he lost alot of mutas in the process the hydras alone will easily sweep any protoss army without ht's i don't know what protoss can do right now but they need to discover new strats

why would you say they need new strats? you win some you lose some...

game was typical pvz. micro/timings were important NOT strats

but let me clarify... was smart of shine to use mutas which was a strat but its been done before


Who said it hasn't been done before? New strats is needed (probably DA) because Bisu manages to lose to Shine in straight-up play ffs
rapistzerg
Profile Joined August 2009
37 Posts
October 14 2009 12:25 GMT
#715
Hey, I liquibetted Shine. Don't know why tho
LightRailCoyote
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States982 Posts
October 14 2009 12:25 GMT
#716
Ugh, FUCK. Bisu what the hell man. Well congratulations to shine, I guess.

will DA maelstrom actually work? I haven't played in forever, but it seems that unless assimilator is built right away at both bases after FE, then it would be prohibitively gas heavy. It would also either delay storm timing or give Z a window of opportunity to snipe HTs, depending on which was researched first.

Again, I suck. So, feel free to tell me I'm wrong.
AKA SurfSolar ----- This is the product of a DIY inadequate home
sauc
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada26 Posts
October 14 2009 12:25 GMT
#717
On October 14 2009 21:22 snapcrackle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2009 21:21 sauc wrote:
He had no templars because shine just ran his mutas in his entire goon army and killed them, pvz is all about those templars now and they are an absolute joke to kill... once they are down even if he lost alot of mutas in the process the hydras alone will easily sweep any protoss army without ht's i don't know what protoss can do right now but they need to discover new strats

why would you say they need new strats? you win some you lost some...



Well because protoss are getting owned by zergs steady these days and I noticed one big reason is those HT's dying too easily, the best protoss in the game just lost to some random zerg due to that reason heh. I don't think the matchup is imba but I think protoss might need to change the way they play a bit, although I don't know how I'm not a progamer.
Weaponx3
Profile Joined January 2009
Canada232 Posts
October 14 2009 12:25 GMT
#718
well y dont they use those corsairs to help defend and 1 archon around with your army too defend the mutas from sniping, should this be sufficient>>? if not DA is needed iguess...
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
October 14 2009 12:25 GMT
#719
Is sair a better solution for preventing mutas snipnig HTs? Goons just don't do enough damage imo.
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
snapcrackle
Profile Joined December 2008
United States568 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-14 12:26:11
October 14 2009 12:25 GMT
#720
On October 14 2009 21:24 Beamo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2009 21:21 snapcrackle wrote:
On October 14 2009 21:20 Gryffindor_us wrote:
LOL it's a shame that Bisu isn't in but I'm kind of glad that PvZ is going to evolve into DA use. It's about damn time.

??? why you say that.... this game was not so different than many other pvz's... and still not a lot of DA use


DA using Maelstorm to stop Mutas from snipping HT looks like the only current solution

archons/sairs (and only 1 archon is necessary... i've seen way too many muta groups melt to single archons and 2-4 sairs)
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