Today making a game i just encour in this fact. I was able to speed up hydra like 4x or more for defending form corsair. i make it while moving and making new unit. I for use click on pool.
Anyone can understand how to reproduce it? That would make zerg really imba..

http://ru.iccup.com/replays/37745.html

KwarK

United States43203 Posts

July 21 2009 20:57 GMT

This is a known bug (I believe Nony made a big post about it with zealots a while back) but unfortunately it seems to just happen sometimes. Near impossible to replicate and therefore near impossible to abuse. Sorry.

KwarK

United States43203 Posts

July 21 2009 21:01 GMT

Couldn't find the topic I was looking for but I did find a reference to this bug from 6 years ago.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=2972#1

Romanian from

Romania89 Posts

July 21 2009 21:01 GMT

use hack to make units faster is stupid, because obvious. if you use hack, use in way that doesn't let opponent see. also, if you must make hydra faster, use fast hydra to attack not to defend from corsair wtf?

LuDwig-

Italy1143 Posts

July 21 2009 21:04 GMT

romanian have you read the thread? I did not use a hack. This is a bug. I want to know if anyone can replicate it. I am playing from six years and I have really never heard before about that.

ketomai

United States2789 Posts

July 21 2009 21:07 GMT

It happens randomly (or how it's done is unknown). For me, I've had it happen with both Lurkers and Zeals.

Eben

United States769 Posts

July 21 2009 21:44 GMT

I couldn't really understand your post...

But there is a bug where certain units speed up a bunch, but as far as I know there's no way to reproduce it on command.

Chill

Calgary25987 Posts

July 21 2009 21:52 GMT

So you found an abusive bug. And then you made a strategy forum thread asking to reproduce it? Is this accurate? Do you think that is a good idea?

SoulMarine

United States586 Posts

July 21 2009 21:59 GMT

On July 22 2009 06:52 Chill wrote:
So you found an abusive bug. And then you made a strategy forum thread asking to reproduce it? Is this accurate? Do you think that is a good idea?

There are many abusive bugs in use. How else could they develop?

GreEny K

Germany7312 Posts

July 21 2009 22:00 GMT

#10

On July 22 2009 06:52 Chill wrote:
So you found an abusive bug. And then you made a strategy forum thread asking to reproduce it? Is this accurate? Do you think that is a good idea?

I dont think its a bad idea for the most part, sure its altering the game but so are allied mines and hold position lurker or observer over turret (easy to counter, but nonetheless) and the new bug about the workers getting stasised while moving to mineral patch. But that would be for Kespa to decide.

inertinept

Bangladesh1195 Posts

July 21 2009 22:10 GMT

#11

they fixed the hydralisk stack bug right? that was fun for the couple months it was out

StRyKeR

United States1739 Posts

July 21 2009 22:16 GMT

#12

On July 22 2009 06:52 Chill wrote:
So you found an abusive bug. And then you made a strategy forum thread asking to reproduce it? Is this accurate? Do you think that is a good idea?

I think it's better to fully understand something than keep it under covers.

On July 22 2009 07:10 inertinept wrote:
they fixed the hydralisk stack bug right? that was fun for the couple months it was out

This bug is NOT the stacking bug. It's the hydralisk-moving-at-4x-the-speed bug.

Boblion

France8043 Posts

July 21 2009 22:31 GMT

#13

On July 22 2009 06:52 Chill wrote:
So you found an abusive bug. And then you made a strategy forum thread asking to reproduce it? Is this accurate? Do you think that is a good idea?

Tell this to the guy who has discovered muta stacking or mineral jumps :p

Kennelie

United States2296 Posts

July 21 2009 22:34 GMT

#14

lol @ stacking bug. Anyways yea that would be cool to replicate it during a long BGH game.....gosh those can get boring at times.

KawaiiRice

United States2914 Posts

July 21 2009 22:37 GMT

#15

I noticed my marines moving at 4x speed before too, but I'm not sure if this is what you're talking about. What I figure happen was my two rines trying to get around each other and then the glitch happens, because times I seen it they always run against each other.

Coldlogic

United States116 Posts

July 21 2009 22:38 GMT

#16

On July 22 2009 07:00 GreEny K wrote:

I dont think its a bad idea for the most part, sure its altering the game but so are allied mines and hold position lurker or observer over turret (easy to counter, but nonetheless) and the new bug about the workers getting stasised while moving to mineral patch. But that would be for Kespa to decide.

Do people really think hold position lurker is an abusive bug on the scale of making hydras 4 times faster?

In all seriousness, i was suprised the first time i realized that you cant stop lurkers from attacking as a default operation, rather than the "bug"

It makes perfect sence that a stealth unit would be able to ambush, so why is it a "bug" when a unit waits for more units to come into its trap?

United States6173 Posts

July 21 2009 23:03 GMT

#17

It doesn't make "perfect senSe" (NOT SENCE) for any unit in SC to not be able to attack on command. They all do it, why would the lurker be any different?

MiniRoman

Canada3953 Posts

July 21 2009 23:04 GMT

#18

Infinite sunken range seems like an abusable bug but there was good acceptance to it. Is that because it was only really useful in anti-rush situations?

Sure speedy hydras is worse but infinite sunken range to your bunker/cannon rush is just as gay ~~ In the words of Dave Chapelle how old is 15?

On July 22 2009 08:03 PH wrote:
It doesn't make "perfect senSe" (NOT SENCE) for any unit in SC to not be able to attack on command. They all do it, why would the lurker be any different?

Any stopped unit will attack an enemy unit in it's range. Only way AI wont target an enemy is if you are useing the move command. Since burrowed lurkers cant move and the hold position on any other unit autofires the instant a badguy comes into it's range hold position command would be completly redundant on lurkers since they are always in a held position ~~ Lurker isn't any different at all, that's why the 'hold lurker' bug is a bug because it changes the AI.

Rev0lution

United States1805 Posts

July 21 2009 23:11 GMT

#19

You sure it's not lag?

ghermination

United States2851 Posts

July 21 2009 23:18 GMT

#20

Well you can make the entire map play speed x2 (roughly) if a scarab is the first unit placed on the map, for player 12, but other than that i have no idea how to do this, and in fact have never heard of it.