The stove seems to be very effective against unsuspecting zergs. Often I can delay hydras just before my DTs reach the base. Mutas have arrived at my base as my archon finishes warping. All-in zergling would undoubtedly work; hasn't been tried against me yet. Thus far, I'm 11-1 on Iccup using the build. =O

Louder

United States2276 Posts

June 13 2009 21:59 GMT

#124

On June 14 2009 06:51 0cz3c wrote:
The stove seems to be very effective against unsuspecting zergs. Often I can delay hydras just before my DTs reach the base. Mutas have arrived at my base as my archon finishes warping. All-in zergling would undoubtedly work; hasn't been tried against me yet. Thus far, I'm 11-1 on Iccup using the build. =O

These sentences are nonsense. Also, D level players are horrible. I went through D/D+ going scouts every single game -_-

Chef

10810 Posts

June 13 2009 22:04 GMT

#125

Yes, that's the 5th time you've bragged about that. Please get out if you have nothing else to say.

Vision

United States113 Posts

June 19 2009 21:43 GMT

#126

I've had this build done on me, but it failed miserably...

Nevertheless, It's still pretty neat. bring back the old school

knightpraetor

United States180 Posts

July 19 2009 23:52 GMT

#127

almost lost to this when done by a better player; didn't realize dts follow it, but i defended somewhat adequately

Zoler

Sweden6339 Posts

July 20 2009 00:02 GMT

#128

lol "the stove guide" made by Chef hahahahha.. haha

deathgod6

United States5064 Posts

July 20 2009 00:08 GMT

#129

When I can, I'm going to do this on Battle.net west.

LuckyFool

United States9015 Posts

July 20 2009 02:23 GMT

#130

Where did the name "The Stove" originate from? Who named the build this and why? That's what I want to know.

Methos

United States206 Posts

July 20 2009 02:30 GMT

#131

while I was reading this I was debating the whole time on whether this was a joke or not haha. But this sounds hilarious. Must try sometime.

imperfect

Canada1652 Posts

July 20 2009 03:57 GMT

#132

On July 20 2009 09:02 Zoler wrote:
lol "the stove guide" made by Chef hahahahha.. haha

haha this is the first thing i noticed actually.

anyway imo, it's a great strategy to mess around with. just dont expect to win.

Duckvillelol

Australia1259 Posts

July 20 2009 03:57 GMT

#133

I love the idea of the stove, I've attempted it a couple of times... but even against my fellow D brothers on iccup... it's such a 'self-counter' build.

It pretty much works like this:
If you fail to stop the scouting, terran grabs ebay, turrets, gg.
If you do get the scout in (and this is the part I'm not really a fan of) - terran grabs a turret or 2 to protect the workers - then your DT transition is screwed unless you harass something else.

If I saw a toss with a scout I'd probably grab some marines myself :S But whatever.

Now don't get me wrong, I'm a big fan and I wish it would work more, and I know it's very much a "LOL HE WASN'T EXPECTING THAT AT ALL" type of build to win, but man, if only there was another way to do it. In fact, if the Scout techs were lower in the tech tree it would be a LOT more feasible.

Royal stove however... man I love that. I did it to my friend, recalled seiged-tanks and he called it cheese... Hilarious.

TheMango

United States1967 Posts

July 20 2009 04:27 GMT

#134

I can see this making a comeback in the Highlander tournament. I'm sure there will be some people who will be aiming for the 'best play' prizes instead of 1st place prize

G3CKO

Canada1430 Posts

July 20 2009 20:41 GMT

#135

lol i have to try this

IceCube

Croatia1403 Posts

July 20 2009 21:49 GMT

#136

On June 07 2009 16:12 Dazed_Spy wrote:
I lost to the stove once...truly painful.

Yup I lost to the stove too not so long ago, and it was after I read this guide

OreoBoi

Canada1639 Posts

July 20 2009 22:49 GMT

#137

STOVE!

ryuu_

United States1266 Posts

July 21 2009 02:47 GMT

#138

This is an awesome guide, thanks Chef!

dasanivan

United States532 Posts

July 21 2009 03:45 GMT

#139

I am yet another who lost to the stove, but my opponent didn't even have to go arbiters. I thought he was a noob or something and felt angry then but after reading this guide realize he did the work of a genius.

EEEE1234

Canada55 Posts

July 24 2009 16:20 GMT

#140

Well, I tested this build, it's actually viable if you're looking to joke, but I recommend...
PvP: Make sure your DT come right after the scout otherwise you die. Either way very risky
PvT: DT first recommended. DT rush into scout rush into 2base arbiter. That sort of works. Scout first is also possible but tends to be uneffective except for harassing to keep some marines at home.
PvZ: Stick to 2gate into sair-DT... the marauder falls victim to scourge too easily with its explosive damage.

Believe it or not, I actually developed a complete game plan with numbers for 9-patch or 10-patch maps. Here it is:
Opening:
8 pylon
10 gate
11 assim
zealot and pylon, and immediately start mining gas (you WILL have enough gas but will have to skip obs until late-game if not for the whole game). Block the ramp.
second zealot
cybernetics core
pylon
dragoon and dragoon range when core finishes

Teching up:
25 stargate
29-30 citadel
pylon
34 templar archives
35 scout and pylon
40-41 DT
43 nexus
44 pylon
Arbiter tribunal
Research some stuff, maybe a robo facility and obs, put down a bunch of gateways and 2 pylons, and transition into late-game macro mode

Suggestions for improvement are welcome