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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 16 2009 21:03 GMT
#81
last night was fun even though we sucked at times and made Hnr go rage mode haha.

There were so many priceless moments last night, too funny.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
LosingID8
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
CA10829 Posts
April 16 2009 21:14 GMT
#82
my zerglings were gosu in that one game last night!
ModeratorResident K-POP Elitist
latent
Profile Joined March 2009
United States428 Posts
April 16 2009 21:28 GMT
#83
This is one of the greatest posts I've ever seen. The statistics are so beautiful. thankyou so much.
Moo
Mykill
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada3402 Posts
April 16 2009 21:42 GMT
#84
BGH is really unbalanced huh?
great strategy thread though. :D
[~~The Impossible Leads To Invention~~] CJ Entusman #52 The problem with internet quotations is that they are hard to verify -Abraham Lincoln c.1863
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 16 2009 21:49 GMT
#85
On April 17 2009 06:14 LosingID8 wrote:
my zerglings were gosu in that one game last night!



which game, I lost so many times I can't remember all of them
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
VeirenT
Profile Joined August 2008
United States181 Posts
April 16 2009 22:39 GMT
#86
goodness, this is impressive
so much to internalize.. thanks for all the info
Insane
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States4991 Posts
April 16 2009 23:16 GMT
#87
On April 17 2009 06:03 Ace wrote:
last night was fun even though we sucked at times and made Hnr go rage mode haha.

There were so many priceless moments last night, too funny.

Haha don't worry, I always go rage mode :D
Patriot.dlk
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Sweden5462 Posts
April 16 2009 23:24 GMT
#88
bgh replays are the best replays! thanks for this i love it
Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
April 16 2009 23:56 GMT
#89
Post when youre playing plz.
BlueLaguna on West, msg for game.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 17 2009 00:11 GMT
#90
I'll be playing again in about 20-30 minutes, I'm idling in op tl-west right now.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
LosingID8
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
CA10829 Posts
April 17 2009 00:23 GMT
#91
On April 17 2009 06:49 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2009 06:14 LosingID8 wrote:
my zerglings were gosu in that one game last night!



which game, I lost so many times I can't remember all of them

the one where i was the white zerg at 1 and peter was raging about how 2 allies can't keep a single zerg trapped in base
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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 17 2009 00:36 GMT
#92
ah yea that was me on his team. Zelniq went to get a flashlight for his dad and didn't tell us LOL.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
April 17 2009 01:44 GMT
#93
Were on west, join us if you want, im bluelaguna.
BlueLaguna on West, msg for game.
artofmagic
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
United States1951 Posts
April 17 2009 12:33 GMT
#94
On April 16 2009 14:02 NoobsOfWrath wrote:
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On April 16 2009 13:35 artofmagic wrote:
can somebody explain

Zerg is weak on BGH due to the limitation of larvae: Zerg can't keep up economically while still having an army; either they are forced to not have an army (in which case the game is lost), or else they don't have much of an economy and lose relevance as the game goes on.


-limitation of larvae.. meaning zerg cant produce fast enough?(cant this be fix by more hatchery?)
-cant keep up economy ???




No. It's because of the number of minerals. Terran and protoss can continue making workers and receive a LOT more money and saturation than they would on a low money map or hunters. 15 mineral patches = a ton of money for toss and terran. Normally, say, you have 9 drones on low money, that's 1 drone on each patch. On BGH, it's 9/15. On BGH, once T or P has more than 8 miners, they're already getting more money than comparative time on low money. Zerg isn't, if they 9 pooled. The economic imbalance builds up enormously over time. You might ask if it's possible to just 12h and make pure drones and keep up that way. Yes, it is possible to keep up in workers, but then your tech and units will be wayyy behind and you will have no defense either. The economy problem is insurmountable. Zerg is only strong early game with good 9p micro and late game when they have enough drones to equal the P or T economy. Imagine going 9p, and by the 9 minute mark you're still making lings, you have maybe 10, 11 drones. The P has 40 probes mining, and he's still not entirely saturated, plus he can expo and saturate those 10 patches at nat easily. He can produce far more zealots than normal by around the 3-4 minute mark when he starts getting more money than on low money (i.e. 10+ probes) and can then afford say 6 gate zealot when on low money 3 gate would still be economically demanding. At that point, your lings no longer match him as they would in low money. Zerg falls off exponentially as the game progresses.

your totally right. thanks!
i have the an instinct of this but just cant put it into words.
evolve or die
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 17 2009 23:28 GMT
#95
I'll be in op tl-west on U.S. West, or bouncing in and out of games if anyone is up for it right now.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Disintegrate
Profile Joined April 2009
United States182 Posts
April 18 2009 21:58 GMT
#96
I love BGH, especially when I'm playing with my homies.

Try channel "motel" (without quotes) on USEast for some decent 1v1ers or low money players, you might even find some BGHers there too.

I must admit though, marlboro has seen it's fair share of drama recently, what not with all the hackers running rampant nowadays -_- (BTW, If you see i.Own, say hi to him for me, he's the most GOSU BGHer in existence, /end sarcasm)

Some good tips in BGH:

Have a good and creative title; try not to stack teams unless you're playing with friends,

The most common build for Protoss in BGH is most definitely 2gate-zealot pump, into whatever tech build you wish. For Terran, it's probably a wall-in with 1fact starport into tank drop, god dam noobs don't know anything else besides that -_-. And for zerg, it's probably 9pool or 12hatch-11pool.
Ganfei
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Taiwan1439 Posts
April 19 2009 00:05 GMT
#97
On April 19 2009 06:58 Disintegrate wrote:
I love BGH, especially when I'm playing with my homies.

Try channel "motel" (without quotes) on USEast for some decent 1v1ers or low money players, you might even find some BGHers there too.

I must admit though, marlboro has seen it's fair share of drama recently, what not with all the hackers running rampant nowadays -_- (BTW, If you see i.Own, say hi to him for me, he's the most GOSU BGHer in existence, /end sarcasm)

Some good tips in BGH:

Have a good and creative title; try not to stack teams unless you're playing with friends,

The most common build for Protoss in BGH is most definitely 2gate-zealot pump, into whatever tech build you wish. For Terran, it's probably a wall-in with 1fact starport into tank drop, god dam noobs don't know anything else besides that -_-. And for zerg, it's probably 9pool or 12hatch-11pool.


There is a reason the channel is )V( now, and that's because motel is dead, and has been for months. Additionally, motel was never a good place to find 1v1s or low money games....it always was a BGH channel, as is )V(.

I know it's your first post and that's good but you basically just repeated the exact same shit that's in the OP, only wrong, because the most common build is definitely 3 gate zealot for P, MM for T, and 9 pool for Z.
You are crushing me like a cheese sandwich
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
April 19 2009 03:35 GMT
#98
I LOVE ZEALOTS!!!
THEY ARE MY FAVOOOORITE.
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
Wonders
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Australia753 Posts
April 20 2009 10:16 GMT
#99
I'm in op tl-west for BGH right now if anyone's interested.
peanutter
Profile Joined February 2009
Australia165 Posts
April 20 2009 12:10 GMT
#100
very nicely written guide. i don't even play BGH and i got something out of it to apply in other games.
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