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On March 18 2009 15:06 HeavOnEarth wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2009 06:07 Carnac wrote: That's not an excuse for not crediting the work of others, no matter how you word it -.-
... Let me word it this way. If I copy and paste an entire novel, it's not plagiarism until I claim the work as my own.
As this is an incomplete document, and as no one has claimed anything beyond compilation, the plagiarism accusations are nothing short of silly.
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On March 18 2009 07:50 Frits wrote: Can you spot the fallacy?
well, no
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On March 18 2009 15:11 H wrote:well, no Non-Sequitur In Latin this term translates to "doesn't follow". This refers to an argument in which the conclusion does not necessarily follow from the premises. In other words, a logical connection is implied where none exists.
Post-hoc ergo propter hoc This fallacy follows the basic format of: A preceded B, therefore A caused B, and therefore assumes cause and effect for two events just because they are temporally related (the latin translates to "after this, therefore because of this").
Argument from authority Stating that a claim is true because a person or group of perceived authority says it is true. Often this argument is implied by emphasizing the many years of experience, or the formal degrees held by the individual making a specific claim. It is reasonable to give more credence to the claims of those with the proper background, education, and credentials, or to be suspicious of the claims of someone making authoritative statements in an area for which they cannot demonstrate expertise. But the truth of a claim should ultimately rest on logic and evidence, not the authority of the person promoting it.
can you now?
On March 18 2009 07:23 Superiorwolf wrote: So I guess if a high level player says its a nice guide then it must be good.
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Holy fucking god.
I'll try to look more into it when I have more time but it looks like A LOT of work.
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If its plagiarism then it should be taken down until you can credit someone properly.
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On March 18 2009 15:48 CynanMachae wrote: Holy fucking god.
I'll try to look more into it when I have more time but it looks like A LOT of work. or a lot of copy paste which is fine, i'll easily say thanks for organizing a bunch of guides together- however it isn't, just one blob of text and definately not giving any praise for writing it because well that's simple- they didn't or at least no one will know, since nothing is credited
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Wow this thing is freaking huge.
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On March 18 2009 07:50 Frits wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2009 07:23 Superiorwolf wrote: So I guess if a high level player says its a nice guide then it must be good. Can you spot the fallacy? crap I shouldnt have converted it to jpeg now its almost unreadable
Hella out of topic, but is that Critical Thinking by Moore & Parker?
On topic:
I'm not too sure about the plag issues... but I think it's a really useful guide for anyone who wants to get started. Thanks for the upload and I hope any issues get resolved soon.
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On March 18 2009 16:10 HeavOnEarth wrote:
or a lot of copy paste which is fine, i'll easily say thanks for organizing a bunch of guides together- however it isn't, just one blob of text and definately not giving any praise for writing it because well that's simple- they didn't or at least no one will know, since nothing is credited
What isn't credited? I've skimmed this twice, and it seems everyone is just reading that there is no credit given and then posts as well; what else should be put? Should there be giant block letters at the beginning that say, "THIS IS A COMPILATION BY IRUIAN - HE DID NOT PERSONALLY WRITE ANYTHING IN THIS."?
Quotes from this guide:
+ Show Spoiler +
Should there be a bibliography?
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On March 18 2009 23:52 Metallingus wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2009 07:50 Frits wrote:On March 18 2009 07:23 Superiorwolf wrote: So I guess if a high level player says its a nice guide then it must be good. Can you spot the fallacy? crap I shouldnt have converted it to jpeg now its almost unreadable Hella out of topic, but is that Critical Thinking by Moore & Parker? On topic: I'm not too sure about the plag issues... but I think it's a really useful guide for anyone who wants to get started. Thanks for the upload and I hope any issues get resolved soon.
yes it is
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On March 18 2009 06:50 YPang wrote:If thats all you got out of this 150 guide is plagiarism, you're truly amazing...
I was joking.
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On March 19 2009 00:01 Salv wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2009 16:10 HeavOnEarth wrote:
or a lot of copy paste which is fine, i'll easily say thanks for organizing a bunch of guides together- however it isn't, just one blob of text and definately not giving any praise for writing it because well that's simple- they didn't or at least no one will know, since nothing is credited What isn't credited? I've skimmed this twice, and it seems everyone is just reading that there is no credit given and then posts as well; what else should be put? Should there be giant block letters at the beginning that say, "THIS IS A COMPILATION BY IRUIAN - HE DID NOT PERSONALLY WRITE ANYTHING IN THIS."?Quotes from this guide: + Show Spoiler +Should there be a bibliography? ok
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Salv, I do not think reading the guide or even purusing it and giving an opinion without thinking about the target audience is wrong. In terms of starcraft the only part of the explaination that can be 'targeted' is the approach and vehicle that is delivered. The general ideas and goals are true at D/C/B/A/Sclass pro gamer, only the reception of those ideas changes the information presentation not the information.
That said even compiling such a large peice and organizing would take alot of time let alone going even farther into depth. I mean 150 pages is a about two hours and fifteen minutes for me .... its not like 5 or 10 hours are actually possible.
And to the guy on who posted "Should have asked conscent before posting" that isn't done here. A link with credit and a spoiler with the full text is puurrrrfect.
TT1 your endorsement in this probably got them more views (at least in the credits) then they could have expect , that was nice of you.
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Wow you guys are awesome, have been looking for a guide featuring various build specific build orders (too lazy to put pen to paper when watching pro games), thanks!
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