Nice I finally had a chance to watch this 8)

Pretty good effort it shows how to 1a2a3a pretty well especially since you completely bypassed storm. On your economy though you could have been able to do both pretty easily. Oh and I have to disagree with taking the natural first, and on that map you should be taking that corner position and maybe do the gateway production there and at your main so you can still flank successfully.

Overall though pretty nice, even though I definitely would rather Stasis than Recall

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United States5770 Posts

February 01 2009 18:10 GMT

#22

On February 02 2009 02:34 Amber[LighT] wrote:
Nice I finally had a chance to watch this 8)

Pretty good effort it shows how to 1a2a3a pretty well especially since you completely bypassed storm. On your economy though you could have been able to do both pretty easily. Oh and I have to disagree with taking the natural first, and on that map you should be taking that corner position and maybe do the gateway production there and at your main so you can still flank successfully.

Overall though pretty nice, even though I definitely would rather Stasis than Recall

Two completely different playstyles

I explained why I didn't take the corner earlier. Every protoss always takes it, and terrans are always ready for it waiting. I just like it mix it up so they don't see my expansion coming quite as quickly.

StarBrift

Sweden1761 Posts

February 01 2009 23:45 GMT

#23

Nice video. You played well and explained you thought process well. Though I have no idea how your opponent can be almost C. He expanded very late. He played a 2 base game but did no timing pushes or any attempts to actually take a third. Maybe it's becaue I play alot on Colosseum / Destination lately but I have trouble at the c- rank with people that are WAY better than that guy. Though I guess Colosseum for terran requires no brain and just good macro.

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United States5770 Posts

February 02 2009 00:20 GMT

#24

On February 02 2009 08:45 StarBrift wrote:
Nice video. You played well and explained you thought process well. Though I have no idea how your opponent can be almost C. He expanded very late. He played a 2 base game but did no timing pushes or any attempts to actually take a third. Maybe it's becaue I play alot on Colosseum / Destination lately but I have trouble at the c- rank with people that are WAY better than that guy. Though I guess Colosseum for terran requires no brain and just good macro.

Everyone has good and bad games. maybe this guy was just having a bad game.

On the other hand, maybe he was using it as a practice game to practice his drops/harass. He really was dropping me in multiple places at the same time frequently.

He probably thought he was doing more damage with it than he really was, so he didn't expand. Still, he really should have taken the island, it would have been so easy for him to take.

Tbake

United States71 Posts

February 02 2009 01:31 GMT

#25

I dont see how this terran is c-/c lol. I dont think this vod was the best to show it off, when such a un aggresive terran plays.

howdid

Canada12 Posts

February 02 2009 23:48 GMT

#26

you know
it was a nice video
but to be honest
i have played lost of D/D+ players better than that terran, who you suggest was C+?

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United States5770 Posts

February 03 2009 00:31 GMT

#27

On February 03 2009 08:48 howdid wrote:
you know
it was a nice video
but to be honest
i have played lost of D/D+ players better than that terran, who you suggest was C+?

he wasn't C+, he was C- almost C. His rating was 3980, I'm not suggesting anything, the rating is prooved in the video lol.

Anyways it's late in the season, so in the first couple weeks of the season there might be D/D+ terrans better than that guy, but at this point in the season there's no way you'll see a D terran better than that guy unless he's a smurf/resetted stats.

Hundredth

United Kingdom142 Posts

February 03 2009 01:14 GMT

#28

I really really wish some Terrans could get a sense of timing. That player's harass was pretty good and his macro was adequate - but for god's sake, he took his third when the Protoss was 2 bases ahead after his arbs had popped, what was his plan?

_Air_

United States146 Posts

February 03 2009 01:37 GMT

#29

Good VOD. I think the people commenting fail to realize that C- isnt pro and that mistakes are going to be made and they will be obvious, thats why we are C-. But it was a GG, improvements for you would be macro basically =p.

And Im going to say go with the standard third. Although every toss does it, theres a good reason. If T went for his mineral only your third was fucked.

My guess is Terran was either trying out a different build order or he was on an off day. You made very good advice though, and it will definetly help. Im about the same level as you, similar playstyles probably. Im slower with 160-180 APM but im just a macro whore. 1a2a3a toss is the way to go for C ranks =D

Dazed.

Canada3301 Posts

February 03 2009 03:10 GMT

#30

On February 03 2009 10:14 Hundredth wrote:
I really really wish some Terrans could get a sense of timing. That player's harass was pretty good and his macro was adequate - but for god's sake, he took his third when the Protoss was 2 bases ahead after his arbs had popped, what was his plan?

It's a wonder to be protoss. Bascially it consists of:

1) Expand
2) Move goons outside terrans natural so he cant vult harass
3) put obs everywhere
4) take 6-7 bases, THEN get an adequately sized army and laugh your way to a victory.

They so baaaaad.

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United States5770 Posts

February 03 2009 14:52 GMT

#31

On February 03 2009 12:10 Dazed_Spy wrote:

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lolz, except you can't leave your goons outside his nat, the vults will just run around.

I used to do that when I was D/D+, but it's just so much easier to wall-off/leave goons at your chokes/etc.

imperfect

Canada1652 Posts

February 03 2009 20:55 GMT

#32

haha i used to play very similarly to you.

then i tried playing the korean times, against korean terrans..

and now i use storm and im scared to grab expos. T-T

Aspire[X]

5 Posts

February 03 2009 22:15 GMT

#33

I agree with kunty: you could have easily supported a lot more gateways.

Manbear

Canada306 Posts

February 03 2009 22:24 GMT

#34

very helpfull vod for me im like terrible at PvT and this pointed out a few things i think i was missing when playing the matchup

Yaqoob

Canada3356 Posts

February 03 2009 23:38 GMT

#35

I watched it and the Terran player was horrible. Most try to take an early third so perhaps you can do another VOD where the terran tries to get to 200/200 2/1 and then attack you. That will be helpful to the people that struggle against Terrans who turtle off 3 base (or 4 base on andromeda/medusa).

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United States5770 Posts

February 04 2009 12:56 GMT

#36

On February 04 2009 08:38 Yaqoob wrote:
I watched it and the Terran player was horrible. Most try to take an early third so perhaps you can do another VOD where the terran tries to get to 200/200 2/1 and then attack you. That will be helpful to the people that struggle against Terrans who turtle off 3 base (or 4 base on andromeda/medusa).

Yeah i plan on it but the problem is I can't host, so I just join games and hope they're terran and HOPE they'll do a strategy I want them to do so that me recording an fpvod of it isn't a total waste of time lol.