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Lq_ fAn
Lithuania154 Posts
it's for 5 fact push thanks | ||
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
SiegeTanksAndBlue: If you have one scv making suplies at all time make new suply with him when he is innished. In early game this is not hard. When doing the attack you can build suply when you go back to macro and in lategame you seldo need building suply. There is no easy way. It's just like macroing, you have to go back and do it every now and then and practice to get the timings better. When doing a push against zerg with vessel tanks and marines usually you aim for his natural/main. This way he cannot sneak through with swarm and alot fo units to your natural. While doing the attack you can sometimes use the units in you natural not to reinforce but rather to send towards expansions. Either walk there or make drops to be able to get them there faster. There is no easy way to protect the vessels. Try to keep them in range of your marines and always watch out for scourges, if you see any move the vessel back to safety. In lategame when zerg has ultras and defilers it can be useful to sacrifice some vessels to get important irradiates off. Beware of plague though if they are stacked. I usually drop at the same time im making a push. If dropships are used with multitasking it will make more damage. When dropped in zerg main or expansion target nydus first if he has one, then drones -> spire -> pool -> defiler/evo chambers. If you are doing a timing push and the zerg has just recently gotten his defiler mound up then target the defiler mound before spire. But you ust know that you're able to kill it before consume is finnished. I usually do not resort to masstanks. That is good if you take expansions and plan to play defensively but my style is rather to multitask and be aggresive. I like to add a third starport if i get more than 2 gasses and sometimes even switch to battlecruisers, if only some. DoctorHelvetica. If you face 2hatch lurker with the ayumi do not attack the zerg, just move out abit to be able to stall the lurkers while you add bunkers and 2 factories/gas in your expansion. I would also sugest upgrading armor rather than attack i the ebay. If you face 2hatch muta you have to stop scv production earlier to be able to get refinary/academy up faster. Then attack with less marines and 3 medics rather than 24~marines/4medics. If you make a faster attack with fewer units you will arrive when mutas spawn. He will then have 6 mutas and maybe sunkens and you will have about 18marines and 3 medics and you can preassure him hard while adding turrets in your main and expansion. When he have killed the attack and come to your base you will have turrets + 4barracks and that is pretty good vs 2hatch muta. Lq_fAn: In tvp you can usually have 1 sdcv making suplies at all time if you have exp+2fact (unless you make vult only). Usually when i have 4 or more factories i add 2 suplies at all time. Also add 2 suplies at all time if you are for example making vultures of 2 factories for reinforcing a push. Basically its 1 suply when 2 CC and 2macrobuildings and if you get anything esle its 2suplies. If you still have questions feel free to ask them. Good luck! (questions that I haven't answered yet is probably because i have not yet the best answer) edit: My next project is to do an in-game vod of the TvP DropStrat, game of 9minPush, TvP Strong FD Bo-VOD and game-vod + a game vod of how to stop a 4pool if you havent scouted it on hard maps such as Andromeda. | ||
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ZzZzAnG
United States109 Posts
edit:opps didnt see the last line you wrote ^^ | ||
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AtlaS
United States1001 Posts
Robot Voice=BAD you sound like a pedo now  | ||
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
Ofcourse the dropstrategy is not uncounterable. Its not a standard opening after all. A fast Robotics+obs and early units will counter the dropstrategy. The obs will come into your main a few seconds after the drop is finnished. Sometimes you can avoid being seen, sometimes not. However be sure to think about watching out for his goons when you are flying across the map. Your reaction time has to be really fast because if you die that dropship before it gets anywhere the game is lost. Usually a protoss will go for some sort of expansionbuild, dt build, preassurebuild or roboticsbuild. 1. If he does expansionbuild the drop is good because of obvious reasons, especially on andromeda and medusa where you can abuse the map layout. 2. If he does some sort of DT build he will usually follow up with expansion, or even dual expansion. Dts wont be able to get in your main because you have wall and you can take 3-4 scv to repair if needed while dropping him. Drop should make ALOT of damage if he did some sort of dtopening. 3. Vs preassurebuild its really good to have the fast siegemode which the strategy allows. You can be unlucky in that he actually goes towards your base, gets hit by tank, retreat, and then attack again just as you lift up units. If you see him doing this you have to stay until a second tank is out. If he does this kind of preassure it usually means he's been cutting probes so its all good. 4. If you see robotics it can mean fast obs or reaver. If he does fast obs and 2gate build he has pretty much countered the tvp dropbuild, but most protosses will think that you siegeexpand. If he does reaver you will be able to micro the tank inside the drop vs the reaver if he decides to try to kill your drop with it. Be sure to make a wraith as soon as the drop is finnished if he makes any sort of shuttlebuild. Remember that with the drop you will also be able to scout his base, drop units behind minerals and then fly around his base to scout his tech and to see when his units arrive. This will make you notice dtdrop in time to add ebay and start making a wraith. This is why i like this build. Then if the fakedrop works as it usually does it makes you feel awesome and gosu;) On March 11 2009 09:27 AtlaS wrote: New BO VOD of 9min push=AWESOME Robot Voice=BAD you sound like a pedo now its because i want to show you guys how to rape little zergs, hrhr no but seriously. The BO-vods aren't that fun watching anyway, they are for pure educational purpose. im just trying to be as clear as possible and i hope it doesnt matter that it sounds wierd. all my gamevods will still be awesome cool and hot with my supernatural mixerskillz. | ||
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iloveroo
Canada294 Posts
and may i ask how this "NEW 9min_push" is different from the "OLD 9min_push" | ||
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
On March 11 2009 09:35 iloveroo wrote: yo stylish, i was wondering if you can put the video of the TvZ_9min_push onto filefront, thanks dude and may i ask how this "NEW 9min_push" is different from the "OLD 9min_push" i dont understand. its already uploaded. i upload all my vods on filefront, nowhere else. the new one is better explained, easier to follow and some suplycounts are updated. | ||
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iloveroo
Canada294 Posts
On March 11 2009 09:41 StylishVODs wrote: i dont understand. its already uploaded. i upload all my vods on filefront, nowhere else. the new one is better explained, easier to follow and some suplycounts are updated. my bad for bugging you about to put it on filefront, i meant the video like the other ones. but nevermind, it works for my 'windows media player' now xP | ||
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iloveroo
Canada294 Posts
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Kinky
United States4126 Posts
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LOcDowN
United States1015 Posts
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i_heart_nukes
United States21 Posts
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Creationism
China505 Posts
edit: dididi, its the BO vod. sry. | ||
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shenlong
219 Posts
someone should start doing these for Z =] | ||
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
I will answer my best for about 30-40 minutes before i have to go. kinky, ok i will do that. I will actually provide vods on how to play vs 9poolspeed 9poolNoSpeed 3hatch lings 4poolrush etc. I might include all that in one VOD actually. Its not that hard. | ||
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ZeKk
Sweden320 Posts
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infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
Would you say Artosis' 1 rax expand into 3 rax build order here is still a solid BO? I've also tried to do your 9 min push but I can't execute it very well yet so I get overrun by mutas  | ||
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
I will make a post of the cons and the pros of both strategies and explain why I rather chose to execute the 9min push. I will do it soon but right now I don't have time. | ||
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infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
I appreciate all your work. Keep it up but don't burn yourself out =) | ||
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EniraM(CA)
Canada160 Posts
My question is what do you do vs a protoss who nexus before gateway? What is the best option to punish him for fast expanding? I know it's a little broad because maps are different and such. But just some general tips vs fast protoss expand would be really nice. ty | ||
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