EPTOn January 15 2009 05:17 Divinek wrote:
Apparently you havent tried it. Burrowed units wont stop a comsat
Apparently you havent tried it. Burrowed units wont stop a comsat
Oh, I guess I remembered wrong then. Gotta try again, brb!
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Zoler
Sweden6339 Posts
Oh, I guess I remembered wrong then. Gotta try again, brb! | ||
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TaG]SiG
United Kingdom53 Posts
What bo's would you recommend while training? for example in zvz, is it worth varying your bo's to gain advantages early (luck involved) or playing safe bo's and possibly playing at a disadvantage? in various mu's what player map (size) would you recommend for training overall game play? would you recommend playing general maps where skills can be easily transfered (python) or specific maps where certain game styles and bo's are more effective? (e.g. bluestorm with small choke and easy dropping zones). Do you train one mu at a time or generally? (talking about improving skill not trying to stay in shape) how effective would you say gas steal is in zvt and zvz on 2player maps? /end questions | ||
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Jonoman92
United States9109 Posts
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Zerum
Sweden348 Posts
On January 15 2009 05:50 TaG]SiG wrote: Some questions on training, sry if this isnt what your thread is about but i have many questions ^^ What bo's would you recommend while training? for example in zvz, is it worth varying your bo's to gain advantages early (luck involved) or playing safe bo's and possibly playing at a disadvantage? in various mu's what player map (size) would you recommend for training overall game play? would you recommend playing general maps where skills can be easily transfered (python) or specific maps where certain game styles and bo's are more effective? (e.g. bluestorm with small choke and easy dropping zones). Do you train one mu at a time or generally? (talking about improving skill not trying to stay in shape) how effective would you say gas steal is in zvt and zvz on 2player maps? /end questions I think thes are some realy good questions. I would love if you did a audio on the most basic standard, safe builds for each MU(the P and T MUs to) for practis on low level of play to get macro/micro going. | ||
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Clasic
Bosnia-Herzegovina1437 Posts
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RinoZerg
Australia130 Posts
Not to mention, Lurkers are just cool. I'd also like to hear your thoughts on Zerg drop play. In what matchups, with what units and at what time should a Zerg be looking to drop? | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
On January 15 2009 05:07 Oystein wrote: God whats up with people??? I asked a question for a specific situation that occurs sometimes, im not asking what to do just vs 1gate. What you are saying would be like responding to someone asking how to defend 12hatch vs 8rax and you would answer 9pool. The only thing I wanted to know was Day`s thoughts on the specific subject because its a hard and interesting spot. The reason why I missed the 10-12 lings part is because its just so obvious that you didn't scout. If you had scouted you wouldn't make so many lings or get the tech and therfor wouldn't have the dillema. And yes you need to drone scout especially with a pool first build. Day or anyone else will probably say the same thing. Now in the event that you didn't scout and just continued the build anyways, you are basically way behind. You can try and drone drill or mass lings and hope to crush him when he comes out. The sair often comes first though so get at least a hydra or 2. | ||
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foppa
Canada451 Posts
PvZ - when 2 gating what is the # of zealots you attack with against 9 pool / overpool / overpool speed / 12 hatch / any other weird crap zerg can open? PvZ - when reacting to overpool speed, the correct response is obviously to get quicker corsair which can be done by cutting probes. when is the proper time to cut probes? at what population do you put down your nexus/gateway/gas/core? PvT - following a 1 gate expand, is it better to get your robotics or add 2 gates first? following that up, is it better to get your citadel before or after your 3? after you get your 3 how many gateways should you add in addition to arbiter tech? Me v some random zerg newbie on iccup - once you cripple your opponent, is it funny or cruel to take the entire map and canon him in then go take a shower and come back 15 minutes later with 10k minerals laughing at the guy and transition into 10 stargate scout? on a general note: why is C- so much harder then D+? and why do 92% (and did you know 82% of all stats are made up) of zergs on iccup go for all in strategies? <3 Plott Family | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
If you scout them going for a fast gas, and thus open with the 3 hatch hydra build with fast hydra speed, but can't scout their 2 port wraith until their first wraiths kill your first overlord above their nat... how do you react? I tried to get a few spores while teching to mutas, but I didn't get nearly enough gas and even if 10 mutas > 10 wraiths, I need to have like 10 overlords with me or he will just kill them all and then kill my mutas while his units can't be seen... I just now thought of going Ensnare, but that's pretty Bizarre... | ||
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sprawlers
Norway439 Posts
Hopping up to a new color/letter in rank means you lose a higher amount of points per loss. this occurs from D+ to C-, C+ to B- etc... thus its harder to hold that new rank, in addition there is an immense difference between every rank, you just don't feel it amongst those worse than yourself because compared to you they all suck. Edit: And cannonwhoring is not funny, not ever. | ||
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Oystein
Norway1602 Posts
On January 15 2009 07:06 CharlieMurphy wrote: The reason why I missed the 10-12 lings part is because its just so obvious that you didn't scout. If you had scouted you wouldn't make so many lings or get the tech and therfor wouldn't have the dillema. And yes you need to drone scout especially with a pool first build. Day or anyone else will probably say the same thing. Now in the event that you didn't scout and just continued the build anyways, you are basically way behind. You can try and drone drill or mass lings and hope to crush him when he comes out. The sair often comes first though so get at least a hydra or 2. I give up.... If I wanted a trash answer as that I would have made a post on the battle.net forums. NO you do not HAVE to scout with a drone when you do pool first, you can but it fucks up your eco so taking a chance with not scouting can easily be justified especially when sometimes you play vs someone who WILL fe 90% of the games and you take an educated guess that he will do it again and do a blind overpool speed build and get unlucky with overlord scouting, its a chance to take and I wanted answers for when you are at that given situation, how hard is this to comprehend? Dronedrill? You realize you will have a late second hatch and way late 3rd hatch if you do this build your not breaking any ramp anytime soon before his DTs are out while he stalls with probes, that is if you are even lucky enough to find a mineral patch and drill to since by the time your overlord arrive at his base at the last place his goon just might be out. Mass lings vs a techer?? You think a toss is gonna move out with his units before he have scouted with his sair what you are up to vs a speedling opening? I got no clue what level you play at but anyone half competent wont do that. To repeat what I wrote in my last post : The only thing I wanted to know was Day`s thoughts on the specific subject because its a hard and interesting spot. Because I wanted input from someone good about the subject. | ||
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thunk
United States6233 Posts
On January 14 2009 16:20 Day[9] wrote: wow nony, i thought i was the only player who played in single player haha i swear i spend more time in single player than i do vs other people If you watch his second TL attack, he said he played a lot more single player than mulitiplayer b/c foreigners can't get muta out fast enough or what not. I can't think of any good situational questions right now (especially Zv anything). | ||
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KP_CollectoR
United States744 Posts
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YianKutKu
United States142 Posts
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AttackZerg
United States7571 Posts
All the zergs outside of korea suck at this although alot don't admit it or realize it because they play against equally bad terran. | ||
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Lord_of_Chaos
Sweden372 Posts
Basicly, how to avoid getting in to a micro contest that you know you will lose? Focusing on the mid game right after your lurker pops up until you get your first hive tech units of choice out. So how to adapt your style to this if you 1. Don't know before the game his mechanics are superiour. 2. You do know before the game his mechanics are superiour. | ||
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Vex
Ireland454 Posts
the problem + question is.. WHY DO I SUCK AT 1x1 SO MUCH!! gimmie help plz! my micro rocks, and my early game is great, but anything over this is horrible, as most 2x2 games are pritty standard for the zerg of the team. I wanna know tips as to how to adjust strategies in mid game, do you re-hotkey stuff? ive seen replays and shit, just my macro sucks so bad.. how do u know when its safe 2 xpo, how do u know when to drone and when to army! and what the FUC do u do vs a terran or protoss that just SITS in fukken base and masses an army like a +1 attack zeal/archon T.T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and 1 more thing, if u dont scout your enemy quick enough, how do u know what bo to use.. do u pre-meditate this? T.T! i unhappy  | ||
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starcraft[abg]
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sprawlers
Norway439 Posts
I'm generally just stuck at a level where, "ok now I do that and pray he doesn't do that...." for example I do gas after OL for 6 quick mutas of 1 base and pray he doesnt 5pool or 12hatch at expo. | ||
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HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
On January 15 2009 21:54 Vex wrote: Hey, I'm currently B at iccup 2x2 (210+ apm), although ive beaten all the great's in previous seasons, even the A+'s the problem + question is.. WHY DO I SUCK AT 1x1 SO MUCH!! gimmie help plz! my micro rocks, and my early game is great, but anything over this is horrible, as most 2x2 games are pritty standard for the zerg of the team. I wanna know tips as to how to adjust strategies in mid game, do you re-hotkey stuff? ive seen replays and shit, just my macro sucks so bad.. how do u know when its safe 2 xpo, how do u know when to drone and when to army! and what the FUC do u do vs a terran or protoss that just SITS in fukken base and masses an army like a +1 attack zeal/archon T.T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and 1 more thing, if u dont scout your enemy quick enough, how do u know what bo to use.. do u pre-meditate this? T.T! i unhappy you could try playing 1v1?...<_< | ||
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